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2014 Lineup Projections

Discussion in 'Miami Marlins' started by Wild Card, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    First, I don't think that's true (Yelich is better), and second, being the "best thing we have" doesn't mean that Furcal is a productive lead-off hitter.
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  2. BenderRobot

    BenderRobot Hello! VIP

    I want to say he meant as a number two hitter, not lead-off.
    Not that it makes too much a difference, cause in a (slightly) more ideal situation, yeah, he's in the bottom part of this order.
  3. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    Number 1 or number 2--it makes no difference. Someone with his current on base ability would not be productive in either of those lineup spots.
  4. Wild Card

    Wild Card Batting Third

    I did mean number two, of course Yelich should be leading off.

    And let me ask you, who else in the lineup is going to get on base significantly more than Furcal? Nobody except Stanton will have an OBP over .350, just about every batter on the team will be around .300-.330 including Furcal. If that IS the case, Furcal is by far the best suited player to bat second. Now if, say, Ozuna, all of a sudden steps up and decides to get on base at a real nice clip, then you can make a change... But nobody will get on significantly more than Furcal IMO. He's not the best #2 hitter in the league, but he will be the best on this team.
  5. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    First of all, my point here is that Furcal doesn't have the on base ability to be a "productive" number 2 hitter. That has nothing to do with whether or not there are players in the lineup better than him.

    Secondly, we don't even know who is going to be in the lineup yet. 1st and 3rd base appear to be open right now. Morrison (if he were to stay), would easily get on base more than Furcal would.

    I also don't know who they plan on putting in CF. If Ozuna can't put up a .300-.315 OBP, he probably shouldn't be in the big leagues. Someone else should be in that spot.
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  6. BenderRobot

    BenderRobot Hello! VIP

    Which is kinda what I said. "Not that it makes too much a difference."
  7. MrMarlinPride

    MrMarlinPride Unsung Hero

    Agree with Penguino, just because he was a great top of the order hitter in the past doesn't mean he should be give the spot going into the season. Obviously the job at 2nd is his to lose at the moment but hopefully he shows some pop and a spring in his step. If he shows promise then by all means put him at the 1 or 2 spot but if not he should be at the bottom of the order giving way to higher OBP guys like Yelich and Morrison.
  8. MrMarlinPride

    MrMarlinPride Unsung Hero

    This maybe a crazy idea but lets say Furcal doesn't show that he has much left at the plate and isn't doing a good job getting on base, would it be crazy to put someone like Salty in the 2 hole? Assuming Morrison is gone of course he's the only other player with a decent OBP on the roster and could give opportunity to create runs behind Yelich and ahead of Stanton.
  9. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    I think it would depend on how well Salty is doing. He had a decent .338 OBP last season but a horrific .288 in his prior two seasons.
  10. Wild Card

    Wild Card Batting Third

    I actually had Salty as the #2 hitter before we signed Furcal.

    Penguino, so if we still have Morrison, you'd rather bat him behind Yelich? So you'd rather bat two lefties in a row... and take two of the few run producing bats we have and bat them 1 & 2? I'm fine with batting Yelich leadoff instead of third to maximize his at bats, but I think batting him first and LoMo second would be dumb. You still need people in the middle of the lineup to drive in runs.
  11. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    I've said this probably a million times already, but having two lefties in a row is more desirable than having someone with bad on base ability hitting in the second spot.

    Morrison isn't the type of guy you would need in the middle of the order to "drive in runs."
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  12. MrMarlinPride

    MrMarlinPride Unsung Hero

    You could always go with the L/S/R/L in Yelich, Salty, Stanton, Morrison
  13. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    Also, Morrison probably shouldn't be playing against lefties much anyway. A RHB platooning at first could probably hit second as well.
  14. Wild Card

    Wild Card Batting Third

    I disagree with both of these severely. Having two lefties back to back puts you at a huge disadvantage later in a game, and LoMo is EXACTLY the kind of hitter that should be in the middle of the lineup if he can produce what most of us think he can this year.
  15. el penguino

    el penguino Marlin

    Having multiple opportunities to score runs early in the game easily offsets the at most one time that the opposing manger is likely to use a specialist, which can also be counteracted by pinch hitting.

    Morrison's power ability has been dwindling. I'd like to see your statistical reasoning saying otherwise. That's probably even why the Marlins want to bring in Jones.
  16. squall

    squall 8==========D VIP

    I love you.
  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous Sun

    Furcal and Hecchevarria should be batting 7th and 8th. And then Dietrich should be hitting 7th when he replaces Furcal.
  18. Piazza31

    Piazza31 Pr*ck

    What about moving Dietrich and Lomo for Middlebrooks and a prospect?
  19. That would be us getting ripped off.
  20. MrMarlinPride

    MrMarlinPride Unsung Hero

    Not worth it if he's going to be brought in as a stop gap. But then again he could be moved to play 1B

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