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AL and NL Awards 2013

Discussion in 'Major League Baseball' started by BenderRobot, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. BenderRobot

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    AL Rookie of the Year

    1. Wil Myers
    2. Jose Iglesias
    3. Chris Archer


    NL Rookie of the Year

    1. Jose Fernandez
    2. Yasiel Puig
    3. Shelby Miller



    AL Manager of the Year

    1. Terry Francona
    2. John Farrell
    3. Bob Melvin


    NL Manager of the Year

    1. Clint Hurdle
    2. Don Mattingly
    3. Fredi Gonzalez


    AL Cy Young

    1. Max Scherzer
    2. Yu Darvish
    3. Hisashi Iwakuma


    NL Cy Young

    1. Clayton Kershaw
    2. Adam Wainwright
    3. Jose Fernandez

    AL MVP

    1. Miguel Cabrera
    2. Mike Trout
    3. Chris Davis


    NL MVP

    1. Andrew McCutchen
    2. Paul Goldschmidt
    3. Yadier Molina


    (Editing in winners and placement of top 3 as they are announced)​
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2013
  2. BenderRobot

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    Who will win what? I say:

    ALROTY: Myers
    NLROTY: Fernandez

    ALMOTY: Farrell
    NLMOTY: Hurdle

    ALCY: Scherzer, but may be close
    NLCY: Kershaw

    ALMVP: Cabrera
    NLMVP: McCutchen
  3. Larry

    Larry The Head Fish .

    ROTY: Myers/Fernandez
    MOTY: Farrell/Hurdle
    CY: Scherzer/Kershaw
    MVP: Cabrera/McCutchen
  4. Wild Card

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    My votes, not my guesses, would be:

    ALROTY: Iglesias
    NLROTY: Fernandez

    ALMOTY: Farrell
    NLMOTY: Hurdle

    ALCY: Scherzer
    NLCY: Kershaw

    ALMVP: Cabrera
    NLMVP: Goldschmidt
  5. BenderRobot

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    I agree about Goldschmidt, but I see them not voting for him since Arizona missed the playoffs.
  6. Wild Card

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    And a CF will get more votes than a 1B because he's considered more valuable... Despite the facts that Goldschmidt was the best bat in the NL and plays gold glove defense at his position. Kind of a shame, he really deserves it.
  7. Eddie Altamonte

    Eddie Altamonte Hammerhead

    I believe it should be

    ALROTY: Myers
    NLROTY: Fernandez

    ALMOTY: Farrell
    NLMOTY: Hurdle

    ALCY: Scherzer
    NLCY: Kershaw

    ALMVP: Cabrera
    NLMVP: Molina
  8. Larry

    Larry The Head Fish .

    If your team finishes .500, you can't be that valuable. Just the way it is. It's not the best hitter award, that's the Hank Aaron one and Goldschmidt did rightfully win that.

    I know A-Rod and Dawson won MVP on last place teams but it's rare.
  9. Wild Card

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    Goldschmidt is a Gold Glove caliber first baseman. He also stole 15 bases. He is basically a 5-tool First Baseman, which is just about impossible to find. The last great 5-tool 1B I can think of is the great Derrek Lee off the top of my head...
  10. Larry

    Larry The Head Fish .

    And he still played on a team that didn't make the playoffs so his "valuable" aspect takes a hit.
  11. BenderRobot

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    Read the whole thing. He may have been the best overall player in the NL, but not the most valuable, specifically because his team did not make the playoffs. I agree it's a crock, but that's how they see it. As Larry said, he got the Hank Aaron award as he rightly deserved, he's got the gold glove he deserved, and he's also going to win the Silver Slugger award tonight [most likely], so he's basically getting everything BUT the MVP, because his team ended up at .500 and missed the postseason.

    I don't agree with that, because I feel MVP should be for "best player," as you do, but, this is how they do it.


    In a way, it does make sense. Going with Larry's side, "his team was .500," Goldschmidt DOES have the best stats for the MVP candidates, by a good margin. However, what did those stats do for his team? Got them to .500. That's it. What do they do without him? Pretty much the same thing, they sit out in October. McCutchen and Molina, however, were instrumental on both sides of the ball (and Molina even more so, which may actually give him the MVP) on two of the best teams in the league that both made the playoffs. That does make them more valuable as a player, since their contributions came in higher pressure games, and led their teams to the playoffs. Yadi also has the added bonus of being a catcher and handling a pretty young pitching staff.

    We'll see what happens. If this award became the "BPA" (Best Player Award), Goldschmidt wins it this year, in my opinion. But, he was not the most valuable, because of the reasons stated above.

    Moose.
  12. Wild Card

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    Fair enough. I mean, if I'm a member of the BBWAA I vote for Goldschmidt as I believe you can interpret the meaning of MVP either way that you described. And I'm pretty sure there's probably some writers divided on that as well.

    I can't disagree either way, those are two valid ways of viewing the award, but I feel it goes to the best player in each respective league as you do.
  13. BenderRobot

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    Goldschmidt does indeed get the trifecta of Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and Hank Aaron Award.
  14. Wild Card

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    I hope he gets the MVP, Cutch had a great year but Goldy just dominated.
  15. Procedo

    Procedo Muckdog

    ALROTY: Myers
    NLROTY: Fernandez

    ALMOTY: Francona
    NLMOTY: Hurdle

    ALCY: Scherzer
    NLCY: Kershaw

    ALMVP: Trout
    NLMVP: McCutchen
  16. BenderRobot

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    Wil Myers wins AL Rookie of the Year.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2013
  17. BenderRobot

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    Jose Fernandez wins NL Rookie of the Year.
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2013
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  18. BenderRobot

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    Clint Hurdle wins NL Manager of the Year.
  19. BenderRobot

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    Terry Francona wins AL Manager of the Year.

    Kind of shocking!
  20. Larry

    Larry The Head Fish .

    Scherzer grabs the AL Cy Young.
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