Yeah, there are several things I hate about people who just list failed 1st round draft picks. One, there's no comparing it relative to the league. It's kind of like saying that it takes Stanton an average of four games to hit a home run. Four whole games! That's three failed games with no home runs. 75% of the time he doesn't hit one! Except that the average player is more so like 10 games to hit a home run. So being relative to everyone else kinda sorta really maters Two, as Bender said, who cares, it's the first round. It's the whole draft that matters. Three, putting it all on one person (Beinfest) is dumb and ignoring that everyone else loved the guy. Let's look at Hermida. Everyone loved him out of HS. He blew up the minors. He's a consensus top prospect. Yet he failed. But that's Beinfest being bad when everybody thought the same thing? I mean, you can get into the whole argument of "the consensus appraisal process is bad" and I'm definitely not going to argue against that but everyone here is the ones touting top #100 prospects and s*** and yet they'll turn around and say "well he should have known better" and ya'll don't see the problem with that? Four, ya'll a bunch of retrospecting mothaf***as. I don't care for Beinfest but every time this is brought up it's dumb. Or atleast, done in a dumb way. Because I don't know how Beinfest was relative to league for his whole draft. Maybe he was bad. But the "evidence" presented is dumb. At least rydawg did a comparison.