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Braves, Cubs Discussing Derrek Lee Trade

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we only did this trade because 1. chipper got hurt and won't be back this year, and 2. we didn't want to pay the underachieving glaus nearly a million bucks of extra incentives for more ab's. lee is simply temp help, and we don't see him back next year, as we will have freeman. we'll see if the trade ends up good for us in the short run in the playoffs.
Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


jojo and yunel probably benefited from a change in scenery. we tried as much as we could with those two, and it wasn't working.

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we only did this trade because 1. chipper got hurt and won't be back this year, and 2. we didn't want to pay the underachieving glaus nearly a million bucks of extra incentives for more ab's. lee is simply temp help, and we don't see him back next year, as we will have freeman. we'll see if the trade ends up good for us in the short run in the playoffs.

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


jojo and yunel probably benefited from a change in scenery. we tried as much as we could with those two, and it wasn't working.
You didn't "try as much as [you] could" with Yunel, he played fantastically there for 3 years, had 3 bad months, and you shipped him off.

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we only did this trade because 1. chipper got hurt and won't be back this year, and 2. we didn't want to pay the underachieving glaus nearly a million bucks of extra incentives for more ab's. lee is simply temp help, and we don't see him back next year, as we will have freeman. we'll see if the trade ends up good for us in the short run in the playoffs.

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


jojo and yunel probably benefited from a change in scenery. we tried as much as we could with those two, and it wasn't working.
You didn't "try as much as [you] could" with Yunel, he played fantastically there for 3 years, had 3 bad months, and you shipped him off.

Yep this. He had 3 solid years as a Brave.
JoJo is more understandable but he's still very young.

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They officially get Lee. Hopefully he doesn't do well because he was heating up with the Cubs...

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


Wow. If the ignorance of this group wasn't already proven, certainly it is now. JoJo Reyes could be good. Yeah, and Jeff Francoeur could be a perennial All-Star. Give me a break.

No one in Atlanta is crying over Yunel Escobar. Good luck to the kid, but he was not going to work out in Atlanta. Even if he finds himself again in Toronto, it's simply stupid to think that he would have done the same for the Braves. If anything, Escobar's recent play is an indication that he is much more comfortable in his new environment. If he was still with the Braves he'd probably still have a big fat zero in the home run column.

Unfortunately, there's just no reasoning with certain people about this, especially certain Marlins fans here who seemingly are looking for any excuse they can find to trash the hated Braves, the facts be damned. Which is fine, if that's what makes you happy. But just don't expect the rest of us who are actually familiar with the situation to take your ignorant criticisms very seriously.

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They officially get Lee. Hopefully he doesn't do well because he was heating up with the Cubs...

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


Wow. If the ignorance of this group wasn't already proven, certainly it is now. JoJo Reyes could be good. Yeah, and Jeff Francoeur could be a perennial All-Star. Give me a break.

No one in Atlanta is crying over Yunel Escobar. Good luck to the kid, but he was not going to work out in Atlanta. Even if he finds himself again in Toronto, it's simply stupid to think that he would have done the same for the Braves. If anything, Escobar's recent play is an indication that he is much more comfortable in his new environment. If he was still with the Braves he'd probably still have a big fat zero in the home run column.

Unfortunately, there's just no reasoning with certain people about this, especially certain Marlins fans here who seemingly are looking for any excuse they can find to trash the hated Braves, the facts be damned. Which is fine, if that's what makes you happy. But just don't expect the rest of us who are actually familiar with the situation to take your ignorant criticisms very seriously.

I don't hate the Braves but saying that it wasn't smart to trade a 28 year old shortstop who had 3 great years on the team both offensively and defensively for an older Shortstop who cost more money is better or the same defensively and has only had one solid offensive year.
The Braves without a doubt would be a better team in the long run with Escobar rather then Gonzalez, if they keep him after this year.

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They officially get Lee. Hopefully he doesn't do well because he was heating up with the Cubs...

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


Wow. If the ignorance of this group wasn't already proven, certainly it is now. JoJo Reyes could be good. Yeah, and Jeff Francoeur could be a perennial All-Star. Give me a break.

No one in Atlanta is crying over Yunel Escobar. Good luck to the kid, but he was not going to work out in Atlanta. Even if he finds himself again in Toronto, it's simply stupid to think that he would have done the same for the Braves. If anything, Escobar's recent play is an indication that he is much more comfortable in his new environment. If he was still with the Braves he'd probably still have a big fat zero in the home run column.

Unfortunately, there's just no reasoning with certain people about this, especially certain Marlins fans here who seemingly are looking for any excuse they can find to trash the hated Braves, the facts be damned. Which is fine, if that's what makes you happy. But just don't expect the rest of us who are actually familiar with the situation to take your ignorant criticisms very seriously.

You mad? You seem mad.

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They officially get Lee. Hopefully he doesn't do well because he was heating up with the Cubs...

Also the Yunel trade was ridiculously dumb which ever way you put it, and they threw in a guy who could be good in JoJo Reyes.


Wow. If the ignorance of this group wasn't already proven, certainly it is now. JoJo Reyes could be good. Yeah, and Jeff Francoeur could be a perennial All-Star. Give me a break.

No one in Atlanta is crying over Yunel Escobar. Good luck to the kid, but he was not going to work out in Atlanta. Even if he finds himself again in Toronto, it's simply stupid to think that he would have done the same for the Braves. If anything, Escobar's recent play is an indication that he is much more comfortable in his new environment. If he was still with the Braves he'd probably still have a big fat zero in the home run column.

Unfortunately, there's just no reasoning with certain people about this, especially certain Marlins fans here who seemingly are looking for any excuse they can find to trash the hated Braves, the facts be damned. Which is fine, if that's what makes you happy. But just don't expect the rest of us who are actually familiar with the situation to take your ignorant criticisms very seriously.
He was bad for THREE MONTHS. You don't he can "find himself again" because he was bad for three months?! Come on. Are you all still that burned Andruw Jones?

You know what that difference is between him and Francoeur, who you mentioned? Francoeur was never that good. He had a good half a season his rookie year and was never good after that, and you all stuck with him for another three years because he was "Frenchy" some local guy from Georgia. Yunel Escobar was, for 3 years, one of the top 5 SS in the league, both offensively and defensively. Then he has 3 bad months and you guys don't know if he can "find himself again"?

This has nothing to do with "trashing the hated Braves", mainly because that's a stupid way to live. I hate being wrong way more than I hate the Braves. Hell, it'd make things very strange considering that Maddux is my favorite pitcher of all time.




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