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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10443493/giancarlo-stanton-open-long-term-extension-miami-marlins

This is probably the best news of the offseason for me. I go to a lot of Suns games and I've chatted with the owner multiple times and he is really adamant that Giancarlo wants to be a Dodger. I really, really think he wants to stay, he just wants to see some kind of a sign from the organization that they want to win and head in the right direction.

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Stanton doesn't want to stay in Miami. He will if they throw a boatload of cash at him and the years are limited enough to allow him to be a free agent in his prime (huge). It's that simple. 5 years, $90-100 million. That will get it done and thats all the Marlins can hope for at this time. next offseason, when he is guaranteed another significant arbitration tender, makes it worse and no shot they offer him a contract $200+ million because this is Loria we're talking about.

Enjoy him while he is here.

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This isn't really a positive statement from Stanton, as far as staying on the Marlins is concerned. OP, I think you're misreading the situation. Also, this was already posted in the other thread about Stanton.

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Can't say the guy is shy about speaking his mind...

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Stanton doesn't want to stay in Miami. He will if they throw a boatload of cash at him and the years are limited enough to allow him to be a free agent in his prime (huge). It's that simple. 5 years, $90-100 million. That will get it done and thats all the Marlins can hope for at this time. next offseason, when he is guaranteed another significant arbitration tender, makes it worse and no shot they offer him a contract $200+ million because this is Loria we're talking about.

Enjoy him while he is here.
He used the words "very pleased" when describing the Fish. I can't remember the last time I heard that from a Marlins star.

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He used the words "very pleased" when describing the Fish. I can't remember the last time I heard that from a Marlins star.

This is what he said:

"I'm very pleased with how things panned out for me. But I would like to see [the team] grow. I have my security somewhat now. I'd like to see a team full of that."


He said he's very pleased with his situation. I interpret that as being pleased with the way his career is turning out. I'm pretty sure he's not 'very pleased' with the organization.

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I took it as he is happy with the current contract. Him saying he dosen't want to deal with negotiations during the season seems to escape some people here. "Just throw more $$$ at him. It's the cure all."

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I took it as he is happy with the current contract. Him saying he dosen't want to deal with negotiations during the season seems to escape some people here. "Just throw more $$$ at him. It's the cure all."
Locking yourself (and your grand children) up for life with $50 million after taxes, paying your agent, etc. (assuming its around a $90-100 deal) is certainly not a cure all to a guy who has made under $2 million in his career and has a modest arbitration tender for $6.5 million (pre-tax) right now. If he gets seriously hurt - that's it. You are naive to think Stanton would turn down a massive 4-5 years extension that sets him up for life and allows him to be a free agent in his prime under 30 years old. That's the balance - set yourself up for life, but don't drastically limit your financial potential and give away prime years you can sell in free agency (you can bet your ass when Trout signs an extension with Angels, he will demand he becomes a free agent 29-30 years old and if not the Angels are going to seriously pay for it. Angels can maybe afford that, Marlins cannot, plus Stanton's not so secret desire to get back out West). Risking your financial future is not worth it when faced with the reality you have 2 more arbitration years and 3 seasons where something could go wrong. It's not smart and bad business compared to "oh I just hate the Marlins." So what, it's the longterm what Stanton's agent is going to hammer into his head and say, listen you are risking a ton by not taking this guaranteed money right now, and maybe it works out, but maybe it doesn't. $100 million is big gamble.

You take the money. It's obvious. There is no doubt in my mind if they offered him 5/$100 extension before the season (before the HR barrage starts) he signs quickly and is thrilled. It is silly to think otherwise. It is the cure all, for Stanton. Now if he was a year away from free agency, and already has two years of arbitration and two 35+ HR seasons under his belt in 2014/2015, this analysis is radically different and you go to free agency. But 3 years out? No way sir.

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Losing is no fun, so I read into what he said is that he won't accept a long term contract from the Fish if they don't start trying to win. That being said, the pitching staff is looking pretty good for the future. If the Marlins just spent a little more money for a couple of legit veteran hitters to put in front and behind Stanton in the lineup, I think the can be a good team and convince him to stay.

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Losing is no fun, so I read into what he said is that he won't accept a long term contract from the Fish if they don't start trying to win. That being said, the pitching staff is looking pretty good for the future. If the Marlins just spent a little more money for a couple of legit veteran hitters to put in front and behind Stanton in the lineup, I think the can be a good team and convince him to stay.

This is a good point in the sense that "team security" doesn't automatically mean three world championships, 12 guys with long term no trade clause deals, and Loria himself being ousted. Team security could be a vague term and Stanton is the only who knows what he has in mind.

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He's going to cost more than $100 mil in a long-term deal, just look at what Freeman got.

also that 'pleased' comment was the fact that the team didn't lowball him on the 1-year deal he just got. They could have taken him to arbitration, but obviously they are trying to keep him as happy as they can for now.

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I think its too late for the marlins to sign him. It wouldn't make sense to me to sign him for 5 @ 100m when this team can't afford 2ply in the bathrooms. Trade him sometime this season and thats that.

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He's going to cost more than $100 mil in a long-term deal, just look at what Freeman got.

also that 'pleased' comment was the fact that the team didn't lowball him on the 1-year deal he just got. They could have taken him to arbitration, but obviously they are trying to keep him as happy as they can for now.
Freeman's deal is 8 years, Stanton getting $75-100 over 4-5 and to free agency sooner (Freeman will not be a free agent in prime), is significantly more valuable looking at the total deal.

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Locking yourself (and your grand children) up for life with $50 million after taxes, paying your agent, etc. (assuming its around a $90-100 deal) is certainly not a cure all to a guy who has made under $2 million in his .......

Didn't bother to read much past this. You are not getting the point. He dosen't WANT to talk contracts right now. He wants to wait til AFTER the season. He's making $6.5 mil this year, and if he only signs for one year again after this season (which is what I predict), he will make a ton more if he has a great season. A very nice bump up even if he dosen't. You don't push something on somebody just because it's something you want. That's pretty egotistical, and a good way to tick somebody off. Look at it as a sales pitch from the team to him, which basically it is. He has outright said the FO and ownership have alot to prove to him about team stability. It takes more than a year to do that.

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He's going to cost more than $100 mil in a long-term deal, just look at what Freeman got.

also that 'pleased' comment was the fact that the team didn't lowball him on the 1-year deal he just got. They could have taken him to arbitration, but obviously they are trying to keep him as happy as they can for now.

Pretty much right on. Missed the fact he didn't want to even talk about long term right now, just the one year deal. And keeping him as happy as they can for now also means not forcing him to think about any other contract. IOW, don't try to force feed him something he dosen't want. If they REALLY want to keep him they will have to sign some guys/names to no trade, long term contracts. If they don't do that then them continuously "leaking" they want to sign him long term is just public relations crap. So if things don't work out with him being here they can always say, "We tried our best. It's his fault he's gone."

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