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Would any other team in baseball try to "lock up" a player that no other team would want?

 

Hech was literally THE WORST PLAYER IN BASEBALL in 2013 and only a little bit better in 2014. Can we lock him up to a radiator instead?

 

 

I'd honestly give him one more year before deciding to do anything with him, since we aren't going to replace him this year anyway.

 

 

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I'd honestly give him one more year before deciding to do anything with him, since we aren't going to replace him this year anyway.

 

And for that one year, there is no need for an extension.

 

Give him one more year, see that he still makes the "great" plays but can't make the routine ones, see the emptiest batting average since Juan Pierre, and THEN give him 13/326.

 

 

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Good starting point but I assume it'll take more to lock in Jose

 

 

Comps pretty close to Bumgarner, I would say $5-7 more guaranteed, and the Marlins can tac on a 7th year option at a lot of bucks ($15-18 million) with a small buyout, and it's a done deal.

 

Would be largest SP contract ever player of his service time. Hard to argue against that one.

 

 

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And for that one year, there is no need for an extension.

 

Give him one more year, see that he still makes the "great" plays but can't make the routine ones, see the emptiest batting average since Juan Pierre, and THEN give him 13/326.

 

 

He only made 14 errors last season which isn't a lot for a SS, so he must make the routine plays.

 

 

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If Hech and his agent have any inkling of how limited he truly is, I feel like they accept the first offer that comes across the table. I mean, I'm almost shocked he hasn't already accepted whatever it was. I think if they offered Hech $1 million, a slab of BBW ribs, and a trip to Disney World, he'd accept that immedietaly.

 

I actually feel like if the Marlins lock up Hech... the 29 OTHER teams will each hold a major press conference to announce to their fans that they have virtually no chance of accidentally acquiring him.

 

Terry Ryan: "This is a great day in Minnesota Twins history... the Miami Marlins have locked up Adeiny Hechavarria for the next six seasons, almost 100% assuring Twins fans that they will never have to see this young man in a Twins uniform... this is a day Twins fans and ownership alike have dreamed about for years. Congrats, let's celebrate!"

 

 

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Meh. He's good, but long term deals for pitchers need to be kept at minimum.

 

 

Yea but if they have Fernandez locked up for 6+, Alvarez 5, let's say they sign Shields for 5 (I mean they kind of have to with how low payroll is and committing to Stanton), have 5 years of Cosart control through arbitration, and 6 years of Heaney.... this is literally situation where they have a rotation, subject to injury, controlled for over half a decade. Combined with being able to stash Koehler and Hand in the bullpen for years, and DeScalfani, Nicolino, and Williams can all be stashed in AA/AAA for 3 full seasons and all project as at least #5 starters right now, this is an absolutely awesome controllable and affordable depth chart, and is ignoring Kolek/other guys who may emerge.

 

I'm all for Alvarez for 5 years. He's going to get better. I think the strikeouts are coming, he throws way to hard to not have at least a 7 K/9 in his prime.

 

 

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He only made 14 errors last season which isn't a lot for a SS, so he must make the routine plays.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=10459&position=SS#iefielding

 

Hech's ranks according to Inside Edge among SS in 2014:

 

90-100%: 10th

 

60-90%: 8th

 

40-60%: 17th

 

10-40%: 2nd

 

1-10%: 6th

 

He makes the very difficult plays that other guys don't make, but he misses too many of the routine and way too many of the somewhat difficult plays. He's not a good shortstop, but he is a great source of highlight reel plays.

 

 

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http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=10459&position=SS#iefielding

 

Hech's ranks according to Inside Edge among SS in 2014:

 

90-100%: 10th

 

60-90%: 8th

 

40-60%: 17th

 

10-40%: 2nd

 

1-10%: 6th

 

He makes the very difficult plays that other guys don't make, but he misses too many of the routine and way too many of the somewhat difficult plays. He's not a good shortstop, but he is a great source of highlight reel plays.

 

 

Well, you know by now that I am not going to agree with you on this topic and that I think defensive metrics are garbage. We will just have to agree to disagree. I will tell you that for every defensive metric you give me I can give you a scout raving about his defense. He was also the runner up for a Gold Glove last season if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty obvious that his defense is well regarded in the profession and I'll take that over metrics all day long.

 

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Well, you know by now that I am not going to agree with you on this topic and that I think defensive metrics are garbage. We will just have to agree to disagree. I will tell you that for every defensive metric you give me I can give you a scout raving about his defense. He was also the runner up for a Gold Glove last season if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty obvious that his defense is well regarded in the profession and I'll take that over metrics all day long.

 

I think defensive metrics have their place and, if anything, give us a little better idea of about how good a player is with the glove. Don't think they're entirely useless. However, they are definitely flawed. Too many factors go into it that aren't actually calculated as far as I know.

 

Say Hech and Andrelton Simmons start in the same spot. Ball hit to the exact same spot away from them. Let's say to their right [in the hole]. Simmons gets to the ball, Hech doesn't. Well, you say Simmons is better for that play. But, if anyone knows, do they calculate speed of ball off bat for that play? The ball Simmons gets to goes off the bat at 80 mph, and the one Hech went for came at 95 mph. I mean ... *shrug* just throwing it out there.

 

For the record, I am not saying Hech = Simmons, I feel Hech < Simmons, but, still.

 

 

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Well, you know by now that I am not going to agree with you on this topic and that I think defensive metrics are garbage. We will just have to agree to disagree. I will tell you that for every defensive metric you give me I can give you a scout raving about his defense. He was also the runner up for a Gold Glove last season if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty obvious that his defense is well regarded in the profession and I'll take that over metrics all day long.

 

 

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