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Prado

 

Yelich

 

Stanton

 

Morse

 

Ozuna

 

Saltalamacchia

 

Gordon

 

Hechavarria

 

Although, I know Gordon is going to be handed the leadoff spot no questions asked because the fact that he struggles to get on base is irrelevant because SPEED and stuff.

 

 

Gordon had a higher .OBP than Prado last year...

 

Also the things Brett Butler will do to increase Gordon .OBP is gonna be fun to watch.

 

 

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Gordon

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Prado

Ozuna

Salty

Hech

Pitcher

 

 

I don't understand Prado 5th here. If he's not 1 or 2, better off at 6/7 with this team.

 

 

Balance imo. Speed at 1, Contact ability and good OBP at 2, power bats at 3/4, Good contact ability at 5 (I didn't want 3 hitters back to back to back with high strikeout rates), back to a power bat at 6, then obvious Salty/Hech at 7/8.

 

I just feel good with Prado there. No issue with Ozuna at 5 and Prado at 6, that works for me too. I just want to spread out the lineup where we're not going potentially too top heavy (although there's really no scenario that happens).

 

Like I've said before, most of these lineup arguments won't make much of a difference in terms of run production in the end, rather it's just a matter of personal preference.

 

 

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Prado

 

Yelich

 

Stanton

 

Morse

 

Ozuna

 

Saltalamacchia

 

Gordon

 

Hechavarria

 

Although, I know Gordon is going to be handed the leadoff spot no questions asked because the fact that he struggles to get on base is irrelevant because SPEED and stuff.

 

 

Gordon had a higher .OBP than Prado last year...

 

Also the things Brett Butler will do to increase Gordon .OBP is gonna be fun to watch.

 

 

 

 

Career numbers are much more important in this case. Again, it's possible that Gordon gets on base at a higher rate than he did last season but until that happens he should be hitting 7th, 8th or 9th.

 

The need to have guys who makes less outs at the top of the lineup is much more statistically important than "speed." Doing so will create more run producing opportunities for the middle of the lineup.

 

You don't inhibit Gordon's running game by a measurable quantity by hitting him at the bottom of the lineup because the hitters after Stanton and Morse are not going to be getting on base at a large enough clip anyway.

 

Lineups don't have a tremendous impact in the end, but to the extent that it matters, they Marlins would be wise to have Yelich and Prado at the top.

 

 

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Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Hechavarria

P

 

 

This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come:

 

Gordon

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Prado

Saltalamacchia

Hechavarria

 

After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc

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Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Hechavarria

P

 

This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come:

 

Gordon

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Prado

Saltalamacchia

Hechavarria

 

After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc

I wouldn't mind that lineup so much. If Prado doesn't hit second, he should hit after Morse though to balance out the high number of K's in that part of the lineup. I think this was mentioned before

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Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Hechavarria

P

 

This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come:

 

Gordon

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Prado

Saltalamacchia

Hechavarria

 

After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. EtcI wouldn't mind that lineup so much. If Prado doesn't hit second, he should hit after Morse though to balance out the high number of K's in that part of the lineup. I think this was mentioned before

Then you have Ozuna/Salty back to back, which is just as bad. Either way I'm ok but I'd rather have Ozuna in prime position to drive in runs than Prado.

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I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third.

 

Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base.

 

Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Pitcher

Hech

 

I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up.

 

But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single.

 

On Base comes first.

 

 

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I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third.

 

Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base.

 

Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Pitcher

Hech

 

I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up.

 

But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single.

 

On Base comes first.

 

 

 

But isn't yelich our second best hitter? Shouldn't he be 1st, 2nd, or 4th?

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I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up.

 

But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single.

 

On Base comes first.

 

Exactly. But I'd like to point out that a .320 OBP is not very good, especially for the top of the lineup.

 

 

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Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Hechavarria

P

 

 

This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come:

 

Gordon

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Prado

Saltalamacchia

Hechavarria

 

After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc

 

This is more than likely what the line up will be although I do like the lineup for

 

Gordon

 

Prado

 

Yelich

 

Stanton

 

Morse

 

Ozuna

 

Salty

 

Hech

 

Pitcher

 

 

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I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third.

 

Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base.

 

Gordon

Prado

Yelich

Stanton

Morse

Ozuna

Salty

Pitcher

Hech

 

I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up.

 

But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single.

 

On Base comes first.

 

 

 

But isn't yelich our second best hitter? Shouldn't he be 1st, 2nd, or 4th?

 

Yea, but like I said, I understand that Gordon will get the first shot, so in accepting this, I'll take this lineup. No. 3 spot is still a valuable slot to put Yeli in.

 

 

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