Admin Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 What would yours look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hechavarria P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Saltalamacchia Gordon Hechavarria Although, I know Gordon is going to be handed the leadoff spot no questions asked because the fact that he struggles to get on base is irrelevant because SPEED and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Honestly, if Dee doesn't lead off, I'd rather Red pull a La Russa and bat him 9th after the pitcher. LF Yelich 3B Prado RF Stanton 1B Morse CF Ozuna C Salty SS Hechavarria P Pitcher 2B Gordon Otherwise, yeah, his speed is basically wasted. Simply put, The lineup Entendu posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech gesundheit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Hech Gregg I too love Hhgregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Prado Ozuna Salty Hech Pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild blue Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Anything without Garshit Jones... thank God he is gone... already missing my husband, Casey though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze2ki Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Saltalamacchia Gordon Hechavarria Although, I know Gordon is going to be handed the leadoff spot no questions asked because the fact that he struggles to get on base is irrelevant because SPEED and stuff. Gordon had a higher .OBP than Prado last year... Also the things Brett Butler will do to increase Gordon .OBP is gonna be fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Prado Ozuna Salty Hech Pitcher I don't understand Prado 5th here. If he's not 1 or 2, better off at 6/7 with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Reyes Bonifacio Hanley Stanton Morrison Sanchez Buck Infante Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Prado Ozuna Salty Hech Pitcher I don't understand Prado 5th here. If he's not 1 or 2, better off at 6/7 with this team. Balance imo. Speed at 1, Contact ability and good OBP at 2, power bats at 3/4, Good contact ability at 5 (I didn't want 3 hitters back to back to back with high strikeout rates), back to a power bat at 6, then obvious Salty/Hech at 7/8. I just feel good with Prado there. No issue with Ozuna at 5 and Prado at 6, that works for me too. I just want to spread out the lineup where we're not going potentially too top heavy (although there's really no scenario that happens). Like I've said before, most of these lineup arguments won't make much of a difference in terms of run production in the end, rather it's just a matter of personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Saltalamacchia Gordon Hechavarria Although, I know Gordon is going to be handed the leadoff spot no questions asked because the fact that he struggles to get on base is irrelevant because SPEED and stuff. Gordon had a higher .OBP than Prado last year... Also the things Brett Butler will do to increase Gordon .OBP is gonna be fun to watch. Career numbers are much more important in this case. Again, it's possible that Gordon gets on base at a higher rate than he did last season but until that happens he should be hitting 7th, 8th or 9th. The need to have guys who makes less outs at the top of the lineup is much more statistically important than "speed." Doing so will create more run producing opportunities for the middle of the lineup. You don't inhibit Gordon's running game by a measurable quantity by hitting him at the bottom of the lineup because the hitters after Stanton and Morse are not going to be getting on base at a large enough clip anyway. Lineups don't have a tremendous impact in the end, but to the extent that it matters, they Marlins would be wise to have Yelich and Prado at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hechavarria P This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come: Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Prado Saltalamacchia Hechavarria After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hechavarria P This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come: Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Prado Saltalamacchia Hechavarria After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc I wouldn't mind that lineup so much. If Prado doesn't hit second, he should hit after Morse though to balance out the high number of K's in that part of the lineup. I think this was mentioned before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hechavarria P This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come: Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Prado Saltalamacchia Hechavarria After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. EtcI wouldn't mind that lineup so much. If Prado doesn't hit second, he should hit after Morse though to balance out the high number of K's in that part of the lineup. I think this was mentioned before Then you have Ozuna/Salty back to back, which is just as bad. Either way I'm ok but I'd rather have Ozuna in prime position to drive in runs than Prado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Luis Castillo-2B Edgar Renteria-SS Gary Sheffield-RF Miguel Cabrera-LF Mike Piazza-C Mike Lowell-3B Darren Daulton-1B Juan Pierre-CF Kevin Brown-pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Luis Castillo-2B Edgar Renteria-SS Gary Sheffield-RF Miguel Cabrera-LF Mike Piazza-C Mike Lowell-3B Darren Daulton-1B Juan Pierre-CF Kevin Brown-pitcher Naw bro! D Lee over Daulton for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 And you leave Stanton out entirely? Dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Ram Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third. Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base. Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Pitcher Hech I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up. But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single. On Base comes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricOwens! Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third. Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base. Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Pitcher Hech I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up. But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single. On Base comes first. But isn't yelich our second best hitter? Shouldn't he be 1st, 2nd, or 4th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up. But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single. On Base comes first. Exactly. But I'd like to point out that a .320 OBP is not very good, especially for the top of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hechavarria P This woukd be mine. This is what's likely to come: Gordon Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Prado Saltalamacchia Hechavarria After the first few weeks of this, we will see the lineup change with performances of each player dictating things. If Gordon tanks you'll eventually see Yelich/Prado up top. If Ozuna becomes the next Torri Hunter you could see him slide to clean up. Etc This is more than likely what the line up will be although I do like the lineup for Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Hech Pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Ram Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I want to start Gordon hitting between 6-9, but I actually like the idea of Yelich hitting third. Borrowing some theory from 'The BOOK: Playing the Percentages in Baseball,' it is recommended to put your best three batters at the first, second, and fourth spot in the lineup, so I like the idea of Stanton hitting cleanup. The fourth slot typically see's the most runners on base. Gordon Prado Yelich Stanton Morse Ozuna Salty Pitcher Hech I'm ok with giving Gordon the first shot. If Gordon doesn't cut it and keep his OBP at least over .320 you can move him down and move Prado/Yelich up. But to clear up some thoughts on where Gordon's speed would or would not be effective in the lineup, the book does say steals are actually more valuable later in the lineup, because there is less power than the middle of the order and a steal into scoring position has more value for a late lineup single. On Base comes first. But isn't yelich our second best hitter? Shouldn't he be 1st, 2nd, or 4th? Yea, but like I said, I understand that Gordon will get the first shot, so in accepting this, I'll take this lineup. No. 3 spot is still a valuable slot to put Yeli in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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