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Arizona Diamondbacks
Trevor Cahill

W   L  ERA  G GS   IP  H  R ER HR BB SO  BF  WHIP
2   8 4.86 24  9 70.1 77 45 38  5 30 67 312 1.521


Miami Marlins
Brad Hand

W   L  ERA  G GS   IP  H  R ER HR BB SO  BF  WHIP
2   4 4.65 24 10 71.2 73 38 37  6 30 44 312 1.437
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Apparently, it's raining extremely hard around the stadium. Good thing we don't play outside anymore.

Also, as an LA resident for 3 years now...what the fuck is "rain"?
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1. LF Yelich

2. 2B Solano

3. RF Stanton

4. 3B McGehee

5. 1B Jones

6. C  Saltalamacchia

7. CF Ozuna

8. SS Hechavarria

9. P  Handerpants

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Things I didn't know:

Yelich has been our best defensive outfielder per Fangraphs DEF metric.

Yelich: 5.5
Ozuna: 3.0
Stanton: -6.2
Johnson: -2.8
Valdespin: 0.4
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How the hell is Stanton that much of a NEGATIVE defender? WTF

How is he a negative defender AT ALL?
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How the hell is Stanton that much of a NEGATIVE defender? WTF

How is he a negative defender AT ALL?

I think his range might be affected by the shift the Marlins have him play where he's basically in center field. Also, he shits the bed too often on hard hit balls right at him (under the glove, past him, etc.)
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I'd have to imagine they don't even watch the games. Just pay attention to play by play.
"Ball singled into right, he didn't catch it? -0.1."

And yeah, it hurts a bit that Butler has had him playing in that deep gap, but, still.
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Ozuna is our best defensive OF'er in my opinion. And I don't think it's that close either.
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Ozuna is our best defensive OF'er in my opinion. And I don't think it's that close either.

I agree with this.
I just don't know how they can say Stanton is a negative defender at all.
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Ozuna is our best defensive OF'er in my opinion. And I don't think it's that close either.

when he isn't being nonchalant i agree.
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Ozuna is our best defensive OF'er in my opinion. And I don't think it's that close either.

I think Ozuna's arm is the best we have with not much contest. He still takes strange routes and while they usually end up working out okay, there are some plays I feel he should make that he doesn't. Not so much that he makes errors on them, he simply doesn't get close enough for an attempt. Also, CF is tougher to play than LF, so a 3.0 in CF is probably comparably better than a 5.5 in LF. Yelich makes all of the routine plays, but he's nothing special. His arm is below average but not Juan Pierre's boiled spaghetti. Stanton's arm is great, but he can be off target with it and has a hard time with balls in the corner.
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I think Ozuna's arm is the best we have with not much contest. He still takes strange routes and while they usually end up working out okay, there are some plays I feel he should make that he doesn't. Not so much that he makes errors on them, he simply doesn't get close enough for an attempt. Also, CF is tougher to play than LF, so a 3.0 in CF is probably comparably better than a 5.5 in LF. Yelich makes all of the routine plays, but he's nothing special. His arm is below average but not Juan Pierre's boiled spaghetti. Stanton's arm is great, but he can be off target with it and has a hard time with balls in the corner.

I agree with most of this. Ozuna is certainly the most well-rounded of the three, good range, good glove, great arm for CF. Yelich has great range, good glove, below average arm for LF. Stanton has average range, great arm, good glove for RF.

Ozuna is the best of them, and if he was in RF or LF he would be one of the best corner OFers in the game. Yelich has great instincts and speed, so he gets to a lot of balls, but his arm is not good. He makes me cringe everytime he throws, it's so ugly it hurts. Stanton is definitely above average, with his arm making a big difference, and he can make some special plays, but he's not perfect.
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