[PBCMarlinsFan]

Here is a snippet from an article on Rangers GM Jon Daniels. I included the relevant part for Marlins fans. Thank god Daniels didn't pull the trigger on this deal.

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Almost immediately after Daniels moved into a bigger office at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, he was presented with an intriguing offer. Florida Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria approached Hicks at the owners meetings and told him starter Josh Beckett wanted to go back to Texas.

"He gave me the players they wanted," Hicks said. "He was leaving the country and wanted the deal done before then. There wasn't a lot of time."

The Marlins wanted third baseman Hank Blalock and either Thomas Diamond or John Danks for Beckett and third baseman Mike Lowell. Florida ended up asking for Danks over Diamond in the package.

"I think Jon got bogged down trying to build a consensus with too many people," Hicks said. "You have to get enough input to make a decision, but he took too long, and the time period for the deal went away."

Hart said Daniels was trying to simply understand his own guys, and the timing was difficult given that it was a big decision so quickly.

"It was trying to balance how much you covet and desire Beckett and not desiring Lowell's money at the time," Hart said. "He was also trying to figure out how the organization felt about Danks. If that happened today, he'd have a complete knowledge of everyone in our system and clearer picture of the economics. I know he wanted to make the deal, but he was being cautious."

Daniels admits that he was slow to pull the trigger. He also didn't understand Marlins general manager Larry Beinfest's style, which is to put his best offer on the table right away. The Marlins ended up dealing with the Red Sox and got Hanley Ramirez as part of the trade.

The rest can be read here http://sports.espn.g...hard&id=4976186

[Mike]

Wow.. hah

[Marlins2003]

and for those agnostics out there I say...you doubt there is a God? lolol

not to mention the way Theo being absent and Larry Lucchino carried the ball negotiating away Ramirez makes you want to consider the real possibility of divine intervention. Things do happen for a reason. I only met a baseball gods once and he was a really good guy. And he was wearing a Marlins cap.

[Dr Beinfest]

PBCMarlinsFan, on March 11, 2010 - 12:52 AM, said:

Here is a snippet from an article on Rangers GM Jon Daniels. I included the relevant part for Marlins fans. Thank god Daniels didn't pull the trigger on this deal.

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Daniels admits that he was slow to pull the trigger. He also didn't understand Marlins general manager Larry Beinfest's style, which is to put his best offer on the table right away. The Marlins ended up dealing with the Red Sox and got Hanley Ramirez as part of the trade.

It's called not beating around the bush. Cutting the crap. Getting straight to the point. What, did you expect him to dillydally and play games with you?

[FutureGM]

Too bad we couldn't have traded Miggy and D-Train there instead of to Detroit. I would have loved to have Danks. Diamond, not so much. But for awhile he was part of that highly touted trio of Texas prospects, the 'DVD': Danks, Volquez, and Diamond.

[dom2613]

FutureGM, on March 11, 2010 - 04:49 PM, said:

Too bad we couldn't have traded Miggy and D-Train there instead of to Detroit. I would have loved to have Danks. Diamond, not so much. But for awhile he was part of that highly touted trio of Texas prospects, the 'DVD': Danks, Volquez, and Diamond.

I'm still holding out hope for Maybin. Miller not so much, maybe he could be a bull pen guy though.

[MrMarlinPride]

In what year was this trade almost done?

[dom2613]

Wow, I'm watching MLB Tonight and Gammons just Said Andrew Miller has the highest SAT score of any player in the majors. Had no clue the kid was that smart. Figure out how to throw strikes.

[dim]

He was also a National Merit Scholar Finalist in 2003 for his PSAT score. I believe UNC said they would've offered him a 4 year scholarship simply on academics if they needed to.

Andrew Miller is one smart cookie. Can't throw a strike to save his life, but he is definitely book smart.

[gizmo]

Dim0615, on March 11, 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:

He was also a National Merit Scholar Finalist in 2003 for his PSAT score. I believe UNC said they would've offered him a 4 year scholarship simply on academics if they needed to.

Andrew Miller is one smart cookie. Can't throw a strike to save his life, but he is definitely book smart.

Hopefully he's smart enough to realize that his career may be on the line and he should learn to be consistent.

[Lane1974]

I thought this thread was going to be about Stanton for Manny.


Should've been.

[cornfield]

How does the Marlins front office take credit for landing Hanley when they made their best effort not to get him? At least Danks has proven to be a good starter.

[Puma]

I think it's pretty fair to say we got raped in the Miguel Cabrera trade. Even if Cameron Maybin lives up to his "Mike Cameron" potential, he will never be nearly as valuable as Cabrera. Andrew Miller is a lost cause, Mike Rabelo is a minor league lifer, Eulogio De La Cruz is in San Diego, Dallas Trahern is an injured, aging prospect without much promise, and Burke Badenhop likely won't be anything more than a bullpen arm/mopup starter. You can't win them all. We kind of got lucky in the Hanley trade, so this kind of balances things out.

[Piazza31]

Cabrera is lucky we traded him.

It saved his life.

The rate he was eating at here in Miami, he might have suffered a Heart Attack jogging to first on a pop fly.

He was, and still is in my mind a Fat Sack of "Maurice Clarrett".

[Schnellders]

Maybe a bit far fetched but if we did keep Cabrera he would of commanded a huge salary (as seen through what he receives as a Tiger) and maybe this means we would not have had the funds to lock up Hanley or JJ...

[floridafly]

Dim0615, on March 11, 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:

He was also a National Merit Scholar Finalist in 2003 for his PSAT score. I believe UNC said they would've offered him a 4 year scholarship simply on academics if they needed to.

Andrew Miller is one smart cookie. Can't throw a strike to save his life, but he is definitely book smart.

I thought Ross Ohlendorf of the Pirates is the smartest player in the MLB. Well there is only one way to settle this...

A game of Scrabble!

[Puma]

Piazza31, on March 12, 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

He was, and still is in my mind a Fat Sack of "Maurice Clarrett".

What does that even mean?

Anyway...when you have a career .311 batting average and average 33 home runs a season, your weight is irrelevant.

[Rabbethan]

Schnellders, on March 12, 2010 - 07:15 PM, said:

Maybe a bit far fetched but if we did keep Cabrera he would of commanded a huge salary (as seen through what he receives as a Tiger) and maybe this means we would not have had the funds to lock up Hanley or JJ...

Nah, Miggie was gone. Right now we'd be going into this season with maybe a couple draft picks to show for him and that's it. He'd probably be in New York or Boston right now.

[Piazza31]

Puma, on March 12, 2010 - 09:58 PM, said:

Piazza31, on March 12, 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

He was, and still is in my mind a Fat Sack of "Maurice Clarrett".

What does that even mean?

Anyway...when you have a career .311 batting average and average 33 home runs a season, your weight is irrelevant.

That means I didn't like his fat ass or his attitude. Or the fact that he wouldn't lose weight for the Marlins, but once traded started to shed the weight.

He didn't care about playing. He cared about getting the biggest paycheck possible.

F*** him, Fatty.

Maurice Clarrett is also a fecal matter for a human being.

[Rabbethan]

Piazza31, on March 13, 2010 - 09:20 PM, said:

Puma, on March 12, 2010 - 09:58 PM, said:

Piazza31, on March 12, 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

He was, and still is in my mind a Fat Sack of "Maurice Clarrett".

What does that even mean?

Anyway...when you have a career .311 batting average and average 33 home runs a season, your weight is irrelevant.

That means I didn't like his fat ass or his attitude. Or the fact that he wouldn't lose weight for the Marlins, but once traded started to shed the weight.

He didn't care about playing. He cared about getting the biggest paycheck possible.

F*** him, Fatty.

Maurice Clarrett is also a fecal matter for a human being.

For the record, all that weight he lost after he was traded he gained back before ST was over.

[el penguino]

Was that before or after Detroit gave him his big pay day?

[Rabbethan]

el penguino, on March 14, 2010 - 02:26 PM, said:

Was that before or after Detroit gave him his big pay day?

About the same time.

[Erick]

Even if he was fat...he was still a tremendous hitter. He could've continued eating all the twinkies he wanted/wants as long as he produces the way he has, imo.

[MrMarlinPride]

Erick, on March 14, 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

Even if he was fat...he was still a tremendous hitter. He could've continued eating all the twinkies he wanted/wants as long as he produces the way he has, imo.

This.

[Puma]

Erick, on March 14, 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

Even if he was fat...he was still a tremendous hitter. He could've continued eating all the twinkies he wanted/wants as long as he produces the way he has, imo.

Thank you.