[flasportsfan88]

http://thebaseballcu...nic-Brown.shtml

Maybe another case of tools overrating a prospect.

How can a 20th round draft pick with a sub-800 OPS in the minor leagues be a top 5 prospect?

[Eddie Altamonte]

flasportsfan88, on March 13, 2010 - 11:52 PM, said:

http://thebaseballcu...nic-Brown.shtml

Maybe another case of tools overrating a prospect.

How can a 20th round draft pick with a sub-800 OPS in the minor leagues be a top 5 prospect?

Don't know anything about this guy but in what round was Piazza drafted? 62nd my friend and he only became the best hitting catcher of all times

[Ashraf]

Are you saying that because he is a Phillie?

[Rabbethan]

21 years old, .801 OPS in AA last year, catcher.

What are you going on about? He's good enough to be a barely top 50 prospect.

[Erick]

Eddie Altamonte, on March 14, 2010 - 12:26 AM, said:

flasportsfan88, on March 13, 2010 - 11:52 PM, said:

http://thebaseballcu...nic-Brown.shtml

Maybe another case of tools overrating a prospect.

How can a 20th round draft pick with a sub-800 OPS in the minor leagues be a top 5 prospect?

Don't know anything about this guy but in what round was Piazza drafted? 62nd my friend and he only became the best hitting catcher of all times

Seems a little irrelevant, I'd say.

[Nny]

Rabbethan, on March 14, 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

21 years old, .801 OPS in AA last year, catcher.

What are you going on about? He's good enough to be a barely top 50 prospect.

Domonic Brown is a RFer

[Puma]

Domonic Brown is a multi-sport athletic freak. Just because he's not putting up monster numbers right now doesn't mean he can't be a star in the Majors. Look at Grady Sizemore. His minor league numbers are very similar to what Brown has put up, and he's an All-Star.

[Rabbethan]

Nny, on March 14, 2010 - 07:58 PM, said:

Rabbethan, on March 14, 2010 - 07:08 PM, said:

21 years old, .801 OPS in AA last year, catcher.

What are you going on about? He's good enough to be a barely top 50 prospect.

Domonic Brown is a RFer

...I didn't say catcher...uuuuuhh...you changed my post with magic!

[ArtisticHate]

I just saw that the dude hit 2 HRs in a game today, they showed the first one on MLB network and it was a monster.

[flasportsfan88]

Puma, on March 14, 2010 - 08:58 PM, said:

Domonic Brown is a multi-sport athletic freak. Just because he's not putting up monster numbers right now doesn't mean he can't be a star in the Majors. Look at Grady Sizemore. His minor league numbers are very similar to what Brown has put up, and he's an All-Star.

There's been a lot of guys on the top of these lists that are their because of their "tools" but when it comes down to it can't really hit good enough to live up to top prospect status. Ya, he can run, throw, generates a lot of power, but if doesn't have a great hitting approach and ability to make contact he's just another speedy reserve outfielder. I've made it up in my mind recently that I like the prospects that are heralded because they can flat out hit, as opposed to the guys who haven't shown they can hit yet but they can play D-1 wide receiver.

I remember some pretty interesting stuff in Moneyball about how Beane felt about the whole "tools" arguement when comparing himself to Lenny Dyskstra. Hitting's a strange skill that doesn't have as much link to being athletic as most think.

I realize that scouts could get excited about a guy with all the tools because if they end up being able to hit you end up with Hanleys, Sizemore's. But I'd look to see which one of the guys that can hit are athletic, instead of which athletic guys can hit. There are loads of guys out there with the physical tools out there that would make scouts drool before they even saw him in the cage. When it comes down to it hitting for contact and getting on base makes up for probably somewhere around 80% of what keeps a guy at this level. Which tool is Reggie Abercrombie lacking, where is he now?

I'm just saying if your going to call a guy a top 5 prospect, if they haven't proved that they can take care of 80% of the job description...

[Puma]

flasportsfan88, on March 17, 2010 - 04:43 AM, said:

I'm just saying if your going to call a guy a top 5 prospect, if they haven't proved that they can take care of 80% of the job description...

Not sure where you're getting the idea that Brown is a Top 5 prospect. Baseball America (pretty much the standard by which all scouting publications are measured) has him at #15. MLB.com has him at #14. Fangraphs has him #9. Baseball Prospectus has him #24. ScoutingBook.com has him #23.

[flasportsfan88]

Puma, on March 17, 2010 - 03:27 PM, said:

flasportsfan88, on March 17, 2010 - 04:43 AM, said:

I'm just saying if your going to call a guy a top 5 prospect, if they haven't proved that they can take care of 80% of the job description...

Not sure where you're getting the idea that Brown is a Top 5 prospect. Baseball America (pretty much the standard by which all scouting publications are measured) has him at #15. MLB.com has him at #14. Fangraphs has him #9. Baseball Prospectus has him #24. ScoutingBook.com has him #23.

Jon Sickels. I was on minorleagueball to get an idea for the upcoming season and didn't really browse around.