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  1. Something tells me they aren't putting these people in "first class" so I believe my analogy is a lot more relevant than yours. You're entitled to create strawmen arguments all you want though. I would move down but I know people who prefer the upper level. Especially when you can have a section to yourself and/or pick out your exact viewing angle. Regardless of pissing people off who might not want to move, as others have brought up there are other issues with this. People want a section to their own? If people want space, they should stay home. No one is turning down a free upgrade, no one. Space isn't a premium in the lower level either, so I'm sure they'll be given good seats. At the end of the day, where these fans get moved (or whether they want to or not) is not an important issue. Closing the upper deck is the issue. I will play devil's advocate. You are sitting upper deck behind home plate. You are told your upgrade is lower level down the right field line. What if the whole point of you getting the seats you did because thats the view of the field you like? In that case, not much of an upgrade no? http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/mia/ballpark/seat_selection_guide_32.jsp The season ticket price for section 314 is $20. in order to be "upgraded", the seats would have to have a higher value. The lowest upgrade they could offer would be $22 seats in section 6 & 23. Offering seats in these sections (especially between rows 11-20) would be better seats. However, I suppose if they offered section 28 row 2 ($25) those seats might not be the best. At the end of the day its really not a big deal since there are plenty of seats. We'd have to hear where fans are being relocated before making a final judgement.
  2. Once again folks, the Marlins only closed it for select games on the upcoming homestand. With those games not being far off, they already know roughly how many people will have tickets there. Apparently that number was low enough where it made no sense to keep that deck open. They probably also didn't anticipate a backlash from giving those people lower bowl tickets in place of their cheaper upper deck ones. It's possible they will run promotions to try and fill up the upper deck a little more for future games. The backlash isn't at giving people lower bowl seats (they are the winners in this). The backlash is that they just got a new stadium that was supposed to attract crowds and they are already closing the upper level. Its an embarrassment attendance is so poor in year two of the stadium. More importantly, its horrific that the Marlins have a brand new stadium and a $30 million payroll, which causes the small crowds.
  3. Firestone Walker Sucaba 2013 was absolutely drool-worthy. Lawson's Double Sunshine was probably the best IPA I've had, too. I'm thinking about stocking up on Sucaba. Its all over the place here in RI. Parabola should be out soon, so I'll nab as many as I can. Have a Mother of All Storms and Heady Topper on deck for tonight.
  4. Something tells me they aren't putting these people in "first class" so I believe my analogy is a lot more relevant than yours. You're entitled to create strawmen arguments all you want though. I would move down but I know people who prefer the upper level. Especially when you can have a section to yourself and/or pick out your exact viewing angle. Regardless of pissing people off who might not want to move, as others have brought up there are other issues with this. People want a section to their own? If people want space, they should stay home. No one is turning down a free upgrade, no one. Space isn't a premium in the lower level either, so I'm sure they'll be given good seats. At the end of the day, where these fans get moved (or whether they want to or not) is not an important issue. Closing the upper deck is the issue.
  5. Anyone had any good beer lately? Had a Zombie Dust for the first time yesterday. Picked up a Shipyard Smashed Blueberry on a whim and will open that soon.
  6. Several feuds going into Extreme Rules that I see no reason for fans to care about in the slightest. I'm looking at you Sheamus vs Mark Henry and Randy Orton vs Big Show. I guess those will just be filler matches. They would have been better off having all four of them face off in a #1 contenders fatal four way match to add some meaning to it. I don't understand why they haven't announced the Shield vs Kane and Bryan yet?
  7. I used to watch the Marlins nightly as I am sure many posters have. I can't watch the games because I can't honestly root for them to win anymore - not when a win for them is a win for Loria. I can't watch to root against them, and I've read about the success of some of the kids so far (Fernandez, Ozuna), but if you aren't going to get joy when they win, and you don't get joy out of watching the players on the field lose, then as many have said here, you are indifferent. There is no point in watching baseball you are indifferent to. I haven't followed the team regularly since 2007 (after they traded Cabrera and Willis). I just got tried of having players for a few years and then just dumping them. I seems like after this past off season, these sentiments have been magnified. Its certainly possible that later this summer that if you combine tv viewers and actual attendance, it might not even get to 30,000.
  8. Yawn. God could own this team and paid attendance (and actual turnstile clicks) would suck. 100 mill of payroll in a brand new stadium didn't do it last year -- there's no reason to expect that any level of payroll will be any different in any other year in the foreseeable future. Maybe 20 or 30 years from now after a fan base has been slowly built. 20 or 30 years!?!? They've already been around for 20 years and won two titles. Don't act like a minor league club and get rid of your good players and fans will go to games.
  9. This is one of the things that infuriates me about this ownership. The Marlins have one of the worst TV deals in the game, including how much they are paid for their rights and the total amount of coverage. But it didnt have to be that way. FSN offered the 15 year deal in 2005, and Loria snatched it up. There was no out clause, and Fay Vincent and others tried to talk him out of it because it was expected local TV rights werre going to start shooting up. It was a bad deal even then. But Loria wanted his money NOW. The most egregious thing about it, however, is it is one of the reasons Loria continutally spouts when he tries to defend slashing payroll..."The TV deal is bad". Yes it is, but you hastially signed it when you had a plethora of people telling you not to. It is Loria's fault and Loria's fault alone. And the worst part is by the time the Marlins rights come back again, it is expected that local broadcasting fees are going to start trending downwards. I'd be curious to see what kind of deal they'd get right now on the open market? Ratings are at an all time low and don't look to improve anytime soon.
  10. I didnt see this posted, even though it came out a month ago. http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/04/12/much-like-team-marlins-tv-ratings-hit-rock-bottom/ Has there been a worse time to be a Marlins fan? Loria needs to sell the team as they will continue to be a joke with him in charge.
  11. Doesn't Levy restaurants run the concessions? Couldn't it be possible this third party doesn't find it worthwhile to sell a bag of popcorn and a souveniour soda and Employ three workers at 8.00 an hour to sell it to you? I mean- to run one stand for a game it may be around 800 in expenses and payroll being thrown out the window daily. Never mind the setup and prep. How many stands are we talking about in the upper level? Even if it cost them $200,000 a year to keep it open, its better than the embarrassment they have caused themselves. The $200,000 also assumes that no one in the upper level makes any purchases at all. To put it into perspective, the league minimum for a player is $490,000, meaning $200,000 is peanuts in the grand scheme of things. They'd be better of only operating certain concession stands in the upper level and not saying anything.
  12. How about just giving the few fans in the upper deck the option to move to "better" seats in the lower deck if they prefer? So they should staff the upper deck in case a few fans would prefer to turn down the upgrade? Like I said, simply offer to move those fans to better seats if they prefer. Unless they are offering garbage seats, you have to assume that > 90% of those ticket holders will gladly accept the upgrade. Maybe they all accept the offer and there is then no issue and nothing for anyone to complain about. Why would anyone turn down better seats? It not like they're losing houses via eminent domain. The Marlins are giving them better seats for free. However, that is not the issue at all. As Pengiuino has mentioned, any savings generated from this (probably not much at all), are not worth the embarrassment they have caused themselves. Under no circumstances was this a good move.
  13. Wow, what a disaster/disgrace this has become.
  14. It would have been nice to get an additional draft pick, or at least a 1 and a 3 guaranteed. If Revis is on Tampa's roster, 3 days into the 2014 year (mid March). Then the pick becomes a third rounder.
  15. I am a very huge Jets fan. I know I know, I grew up in South FLA but I hate the Fins, partly b/c of the way they have treated the Marlins in the past. Anyways, today, the Jets only star player, Darrelle Revis, was traded. I was very P/O about the trade, I believe the Jets got swindled, but you know what, even though I'm furious, I'll still be a Jet Fan. The reason why I bring this up is to ask you people (marlinsbaseball.com) two questions. Does this remind you of a trade the Marlins could possibly make soon? and two, if Stanton were to be traded, would you still be a Marlins fan? I would. Panthers, Marlins, Heat, and Jets FTW! Feel Free to comment. It doesnt remind me of any Marlins trade. The Jets chose not to pay Revis $16 million a year since they have a ton of other needs. It was either trade Revis now, or let him walk away like the Texans did with Mario Williams. Knowing that, I am fine with the trade. Hopefully they'll draft well on Thursday. Stanton will get traded, its just a matter of time. The Marlins traded everyone else this off season, so anyone who is still a fan will remain a marlins fan, IMO
  16. So after last night the PPV is shaping up to be... Lesnar vs HHH Cena vs Ryback Ziggler vs Del Rio vs Swagger Henry vs Sheamus Hopefully next week's three on three match will lead to an extreme rules match between Undertaker and Hell No vs Shield. I'd then have CM Punk interfere at the PPV and cost Undertaker the match. That could set up a match at one of the summer PPVs between Undertaker and CM Punk, provided Undertaker wants to wrestle a few more matches.
  17. I hope we get Punk & the Shield vs Hell No, Undertaker and HHH at Extreme rules. In a 4 on 2 Handicapped match? Also there's a rumor that Batista is trying to make a comeback as a part timer. I hope he comes back as a face and turns quickly. No four on four. Punk and the three members of the shield, vs Hell No (Kane and Bryan), Undertaker and HHH. On the last two episodes of Raw and Smackdown, the sheild came out during the Undertaker and HHH's promos. Kane and Bryan were also involved in both. They could have an extreme rules match "war games" style (just one ring with no cage). Where a new wrestler would come out every 2 to 5 minutes. That would allow for minimal work for Undertaker and CM Punk. They could be the last two wrestlers in and only wrestle for about 10 minutes, It would also give CM Punk an opportunity to pin the Undertaker.
  18. I hope we get Punk & the Shield vs Hell No, Undertaker and HHH at Extreme rules.
  19. To be fair, I think anyone would have gotten the same pop for cashing in the MitB briefcase. I disagree. Ziggler is really over in the NY/NJ area. While there would have been cheers for anyone, they would not have been as loud. Hopefully they give Ziggler a decent title reign as he should become their next big star.
  20. If it ends with a handshake and Cena heel turn, I'll be ecstatic. Also, good crowd last night for being in DC. Usually craptacular crowds there. That would be awesome. A straight up handshake and wave to the crowd would be terrible.
  21. VERY nicely done ending segment. Decent final RAW before WM. The ending was really the only good part. I think they've done a good job building up the Punk vs Taker, Fandago vs Y2J, Shield vs Orton/Sheamus/Big Show and HHH vs Lesnar. Rock vs Cena has had a terrible build up, IMO. If that match ends with a hand shake, I'm going to puke.
  22. This might be the worst wrestlemania card ever. Wouldn't go that far; there's some intriguing matches however the build-up for the midcard bouts has been absolutely atrocious.I can't think of a Wrestlemania in the past 15 years that had a more boring, lack of hype, randomly put together card than this. Well, outside of Taker/Punk and Del Rio/Swagger, I can agree with this. WM27 wasn't all that good, either. Maybe they're just more building up for WM30. This wrestlemania will have some decent matches and will be better than 27. However, I agree that the build up has been very boring and predicable with the exception of a few places. You could have predicted the main matches on this card four months ago. The Cena vs Rock match last year had something going for it as they had never fought before. The promos this year are boring and they didnt hype the feud two out of the last three raws. Hopefully they turn the Shield vs Show/Orton/Sheamus into a tornado rules or some gimmick match. Regular 3 v 3 matches are boring.
  23. he only time they had trouble was in 2002 when the opening day crowd was 23,877. The scary thing is that the combined attendance for games 2 and 3 was 9,888. Holy s***. I knew attendance was bad in 2002, but I never realized that they had that many paid attendance figures below 5,000. Upon looking it up I noticed that they had quite a few. No wonder the Marlins were a candidate for contraction/relocation. That was their worst year of attendance ever. I'll never forget going to a Friday night game against the Detroit Tigers when Luis Castillo had a 30+ game hit streak and the paid crowd was less than 6,000. A total embarrassment.
  24. Ticket sales are 100% profit. Concessions have a cost. Marlins make more money selling a $20 ticket than on someone spending $20 on hot dogs. That statement is inaccurate. The home yield on a dollar of ticket sales seems to be about 77 cents -- they have to pay the other club. Programs, hats, other clothing, beer, liquor, soft drinks, hot dogs, everything with the possible exception of some of the more exotic food is sold at gross margins higher than 77% -- much of it at 90 to 95%. There is no cost of goods sold. Sure they give the other team 23%, but they get that back in away games. The bottom line is they make a lot more money in ticket sales than they ever could in concessions.
  25. Is anybody gonna actually take advantage of this or are we all boycotting opening day? I'm not going because I'm upset with the way the team is run. I want there to be plenty of empty seats. Probably won't happen but whatever. I'll go to games later in the season because I still love baseball.really, dude? from everything that's been reported, I'd be surprised if there were more filled seats than empty ones on opening day. Its still opening day. I expect it to be pretty full even with all the BS. I don't remember them ever having trouble selling tix for the Home Opener. Not ever. But I do agree with you. However, as in the past, it's Home Game #2 and beyond where the national and local media will be reminding everyone how bad the attendance is. Personally, I'm going to sit back and laugh while compiling the "new and improved" numbered list of why we South Floridians won't go to the ball park. The only time they had trouble was in 2002 when the opening day crowd was 23,877. The scary thing is that the combined attendance for games 2 and 3 was 9,888.
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