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  1. Thursday, November 26 Green Bay at Detroit (12:30 PM) Oakland at Dallas (4:15 PM) N.Y. Giants at Denver (8:20 PM) Sunday, November 29 Tampa Bay at Atlanta (1:00 PM) Miami at Buffalo (1:00 PM) Seattle at St. Louis (1:00 PM) Cleveland at Cincinnati (1:00 PM) Washington at Philadelphia (1:00 PM) Carolina at N.Y. Jets (1:00 PM) Indianapolis at Houston (1:00 PM) Jacksonville at San Francisco (4:05 PM) Kansas City at San Diego (4:05 PM) Chicago at Minnesota (4:15 PM) Arizona at Tennessee (4:15 PM) Pittsburgh at Baltimore (8:20 PM) Monday, November 30 New England at New Orleans (8:30 PM) 12-4
  2. Thursday, November 26 Green Bay at Detroit (12:30 PM) Oakland at Dallas (4:15 PM) N.Y. Giants at Denver (8:20 PM) Sunday, November 29 Tampa Bay at Atlanta (1:00 PM) Miami at Buffalo (1:00 PM) Seattle at St. Louis (1:00 PM) Cleveland at Cincinnati (1:00 PM) Washington at Philadelphia (1:00 PM) Carolina at N.Y. Jets (1:00 PM) Indianapolis at Houston (1:00 PM) Jacksonville at San Francisco (4:05 PM) Kansas City at San Diego (4:05 PM) Chicago at Minnesota (4:15 PM) Arizona at Tennessee (4:15 PM) Pittsburgh at Baltimore (8:20 PM) Monday, November 30 New England at New Orleans (8:30 PM) 12-4
  3. Thursday, November 19 Miami at Carolina (8:20 PM) Sunday, November 22 Buffalo at Jacksonville (1:00 PM) Cleveland at Detroit (1:00 PM) Pittsburgh at Kansas City (1:00 PM) Washington at Dallas (1:00 PM) Indianapolis at Baltimore (1:00 PM) New Orleans at Tampa Bay (1:00 PM) Seattle at Minnesota (1:00 PM) Atlanta at N.Y. Giants (1:00 PM) San Francisco at Green Bay (1:00 PM) Arizona at St. Louis (4:05 PM) San Diego at Denver (4:15 PM) Cincinnati at Oakland (4:15 PM) N.Y. Jets at New England (4:15 PM) Philadelphia at Chicago (8:20 PM) Monday, November 23 Tennessee at Houston (8:30 PM) 13-3
  4. Thursday, November 12 Chicago at San Francisco (8:20 PM) Sunday, November 15 Detroit at Minnesota (1:00 PM) New Orleans at St. Louis (1:00 PM) Atlanta at Carolina (1:00 PM) Tampa Bay at Miami (1:00 PM) Denver at Washington (1:00 PM) Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (1:00 PM) Buffalo at Tennessee (1:00 PM) Jacksonville at N.Y. Jets (1:00 PM) Kansas City at Oakland (4:05 PM) Dallas at Green Bay (4:15 PM) Seattle at Arizona (4:15 PM) Philadelphia at San Diego (4:15 PM) New England at Indianapolis (8:20 PM) Monday, November 16 Baltimore at Cleveland (8:30 PM) 10-5
  5. Sunday, November 8 Arizona at Chicago (1:00 PM) Washington at Atlanta (1:00 PM) Green Bay at Tampa Bay (1:00 PM) Miami at New England (1:00 PM) Baltimore at Cincinnati (1:00 PM) Kansas City at Jacksonville (1:00 PM) Houston at Indianapolis (1:00 PM) Detroit at Seattle (4:05 PM) Carolina at New Orleans (4:05 PM) San Diego at N.Y. Giants (4:15 PM) Tennessee at San Francisco (4:15 PM) Dallas at Philadelphia (8:20 PM) Monday, November 9 Pittsburgh at Denver (8:30 PM) 8-5
  6. Sunday, November 1 N.Y. Giants at Philadelphia (1:00 PM) Cleveland at Chicago (1:00 PM) Seattle at Dallas (1:00 PM) Houston at Buffalo (1:00 PM) Denver at Baltimore (1:00 PM) Miami at N.Y. Jets (1:00 PM) San Francisco at Indianapolis (1:00 PM) St. Louis at Detroit (1:00 PM) Jacksonville at Tennessee (4:05 PM) Oakland at San Diego (4:05 PM) Carolina at Arizona (4:15 PM) Minnesota at Green Bay (4:15 PM) Monday, November 2 Atlanta at New Orleans (8:30 PM) 8-5
  7. Sunday, October 25 San Diego at Kansas City (1:00 PM) Green Bay at Cleveland (1:00 PM) Minnesota at Pittsburgh (1:00 PM) Indianapolis at St. Louis (1:00 PM) New England at Tampa Bay (1:00 PM) San Francisco at Houston (1:00 PM) N.Y. Jets at Oakland (4:05 PM) Buffalo at Carolina (4:05 PM) Atlanta at Dallas (4:15 PM) Chicago at Cincinnati (4:15 PM) New Orleans at Miami (4:15 PM) Arizona at N.Y. Giants (8:20 PM) Monday, October 26 Philadelphia at Washington (8:30 PM 9-4
  8. Sunday, October 18 Cleveland at Pittsburgh (1:00 PM) Carolina at Tampa Bay (1:00 PM) St. Louis at Jacksonville (1:00 PM) N.Y. Giants at New Orleans (1:00 PM) Baltimore at Minnesota (1:00 PM) Kansas City at Washington (1:00 PM) Houston at Cincinnati (1:00 PM) Detroit at Green Bay (1:00 PM) Philadelphia at Oakland (4:05 PM) Arizona at Seattle (4:05 PM) Buffalo at N.Y. Jets (4:15 PM) Tennessee at New England (4:15 PM) Chicago at Atlanta (8:20 PM) Monday, October 19 Denver at San Diego (8:20 PM) 5-9
  9. Sunday, October 11 Minnesota N.Y. Giants Pittsburgh Baltimore Buffalo Philadelphia Dallas Carolina San Francisco New England Arizona Jacksonville Indianapolis Monday, October 12 N.Y. Jets 8-6
  10. Sunday, October 4 Washington Chicago Indianapolis N.Y. Giants Cincinnati Baltimore Jacksonville Houston Buffalo New Orleans Dallas San Francisco Pittsburgh Monday, October 5 Minnesota 11-3
  11. Sunday, September 27 Houston N.Y. Jets Philadelphia Washington Baltimore N.Y. Giants Green Bay New England Minnesota New Orleans Chicago San Diego Oakland Pittsburgh Indianapolis Monday, September 28 Dallas 12-4
  12. Sunday, September 20 Atlanta Philadelphia Jacksonville Washington Green Bay New England Tennessee Minnesota Kansas City Seattle Buffalo Pittsburgh Baltimore Denver N.Y. Giants Monday, September 21 Indianapolis
  13. THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 Pittsburgh Steelers SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 13 Jacksonville Jaguars New Orleans Saints Philadelphia Eagles Dallas Cowboys New York Jets Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals Minnesota Vikings Atlanta Falcons New York Giants Arizona Cardinals Seattle Seahawks Green Bay Packers MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14 New England Patriots San Diego Chargers 13-3
  14. I'll say thanks for the reply and I don't know that I'm going to be able to get in everything I want to now, but a few things before I get started: 1. I realize that slap hitters comprise most of those who have GB rates > 48, so yeah I like that you threw them out. That's good. 2. No problem with projecting Logan's HR/FB over 14%, but to a point. 3. This is going to be tough for me to do b/c there's no MILB GB data on most of these guys, but one thing I want to look at is the ISO of those 17 players you listed in their final few (I'm thinking two, preferably when they're roughly age 22) seasons before heading to the majors. I don't like looking at career MILB ISO b/c most guys (the non-freaks unlike Stanton) won't hit for power at a young age. But looking at the ISO of those 17 in the seasons before their callup, and seeing just how much that ISO dropped compared to their career rates, may give a reasonable expectation of whether Logan can maintain a decent ISO. Of course this assumes, among other things, their GB tendencies in teh minors were similar to their MLB ground ball rates. and I mean this isn't going to be perfect, but it's kind of illustrative b/c it can teach us what to expect in terms of MILB ISO v. MLB ISO for primarily GB hitters. But there's also the problem of late developing power and limited data on the MILB careers of the older guys...so I mean, maybe it's not the best idea, but at the same time it does work in showing how much of a dropoff (or increase) in MLB ISO could be expected. One problem, though, is the age/level difference between Logan and these guys. That hurts the comp in some cases. Logan's ISOing .184 as a 21 (soon to be 22) year old at AA. He ISOed .166 as a 20 year old at A+. So, he's improving, which is good. He'll probably get another year in the minors at AAA, so we'll have more data and stuff then, but for now that's all we can go on with Logan. But for Logan to ISO 180 (and OPS around .850), he'll (obvi) have to maintain or increase that ISO. And the group of players you mentioned doesn't show that most of those guys were able to maintain or increase their MILB ISO once they entered MLB. Anyway, among the players you named: Greive ISOed .290 as a 21 year old in 589 PA between AA and AAA. -> MLB ISO way lower, wow was he a good prospect who didn't work out Preston Wilson ISOed .244 as a 22 year old in A+/AA and 298 as a 23 year old in the AAA Marlins season. -> older than logan but may work next season. MLB ISO lower Jacque Jones ISOed ..209 as a 23 year old at AA and .146 as a 24 year old at AAA (only 210 PA though) -> again, older, but MLB ISO higher and lower Ken Harvey ISOed .168 as a 23 year old at AA (only like 350 PAs) and .188 as a 24 year old at AAA -> older, and I mean...Ken Harvey? lol. But MLB ISO lower Admin Bigbie was kinda all over the place Shawn Green ISOed .074 as a 20 year old in AA and ..166 as a 21 year old in AAA -> MLB ISO higher, at higher level than Logan Hunter Pence doesn't have enough of an MLB career yet, but he ISOed .192 as a 22 year old in A+, .250 as a 23 year old in AA. -> MLB ISO lower, but he's prob too young Gary Matthews ISOed .173 as a 23 year old AA, .130 as a 24 year old in AAA, and .151 as a 25 year old in AAA. -> MLB ISO higher Jeter ISOed .105 as a 21 year old at AAA -> MLB ISO higher Simon's all over in terms of MLB-minors Tejada ISOed .183 as a 21 year old in AA (last full season) -> MLB ISO really similar Hunter ISOed .168 as a 21 year old in AA, ..156 as a 22 year old in AA, and .206 as a 22 yeyar old in AAA (but less than 100 PAs) -> MLB ISO higher Bernie Williams ISOed .179 as a 23 year old in AAA. - MLB ISO same, but this was the end of Bernie's career Zeile and Walker are so far towards tthe end of their career it's probably not a good idea to compare their MILB #s to their MLB numbers in this case. Same thign with Bernie. I think that's everyone? Anyway I guess the point I'm trying to make with this is that a bunch of these guys saw thier ISOs drop or stay the same upon entering MLB. After Logan's AAA year it'll be easier to tell, but right now he'd have to maintain or increae his ISO in order to meet that .180ish mark, and among that group over their career not all that many were able to increase or maintain a .180ish ISO for their career. That said, at his peak Logan may be able to go above the .180 iso mark. I wish there were numbers on guys like Walker nad Williams to see what their GB rates were like at the peak of their careers. The other thing about this though is that most of these guys aren't the same type of athletes as Logan (Jeter, Hunter, Matthews, Pence, Tejada). Logan's a bigger, stronger, less athletic type compared to some of them. I mean, looking at the list, not many of these guys were 1B/LF types with defensive issues. Not sure if that's in Logan's favor (b/c then he'd be expected to grow into his power, and i mean this helps the hope for a 17% HR/FB projection) or against him (failrue to adjust b/c of lack of athleticism/long swing, hits more ground balls upon arrival in majors). Yeah that was a ramble I didn't proofread but I hope you got the point I was hoping to make - that alot of the guys from that group of GB hitters weren't able to maintain their MILB ISO, and if Logan can't maintain his current MILB ISO he won't hit that magic .180 mark, for whatever reason (increased GB, drop in HR/FB, whatever)
  15. What most likely happens: His lack of FBs keeps him from really breaking out in the HR department, but his high HR/FB still allows him to hit a lot. His LD and other abilities allow him to be in the upper 1/4th in the league in BABIP, but his speed keeps him from being in the elite category. He walks, he doesn't strike out, basically he is your prototypical mid-.800 OPS hitter Best case scenario: Speed be damned, his ability to hit the ball puts him at the upper echelon of BABIP. He's able to drop his GB% and raise his FB%, allowing him to break the 30 hr cusp. This new found power then allows him to walk more, and he's patient enough to take the walks not not strike out. He'll likely always K too much to be the next Albert Pujols, but everything else here is basically Miguel Cabrera reincarnated. Worst case scenario: He just hits too many GBs to hit for above average power. His ability to hit BABIP is still good, but as he faces better pitching and defenses it only becomes good and not great. Hi Nny. I was going to respond here or fishguts or (defunct so redacted), but I guess I'll do it here. Good stuff, but you're being a bit too optimistic on Logan. He's more likely a .780-.810 OPSer unless he improves those ground ball rates, unless he's the extremely rare guy who can ISO around .180 with a 48% (or higher) GB rate or he's able to hit over .300. And without the power threat, he'll probably get attacked to the point he doesn't hit .300 (but that's just a guess) or walk at such a high rate (again, a guess, but I'd bet his walk rate drops to around 10-12% if the power isn't there) Logan's a career 49.2 GB%, and he's not trending in the right direction (sample size obvi), with 46.7% in 2007, 47.6% in 2008, and 51.2% in 2009. Now yeah, like you said, this isn't necessarily the worst thing, but take a look at the MLB players who had over 48% GB in 2006, 2007, and 2008 (don't like using 2009 b/c of how many games are left): 2006: http://www.fangraphs...on=2006&month=0 2007: http://www.fangraphs...on=2007&month=0 2008: http://www.fangraphs...on=2008&month=0 Now, a list of those with a GB% > 48 and an ISO of .180 or better: 2006: (ended up not doing this, 2008 and 2007 took too long) 2007: 2/26. Vlad (.223 ISO with 48.5 GB and 14.5 FB, but it's Vlad), Torii Hunter (48.8 GB, .218 ISO, 15.1 HR/FB) (Other notables: Jose Guillen had a GB of 48.3 and a 170 ISO for an .813 OPS. Russell Martin had GB of 48.4 and ISO of .176 for OPS of 843. Gary Matthews had 50.8 GB with .167 ISO and 11.8 HR/FB. Kotchman had 50.6 FB with .172 ISO and 8.1 HR/FB) 2008: 3/24. Hunter Pence, Brandon Phillips (261 BA, 181 ISO, with 13.2% HR/FB), JJ Hardy (48.4% GB, 283 BA, 195 ISO, 821 OPS) ( (Fred Lewis ISO'd .158 and OPSed .791 with a .282 BA, but his HR/FB rate was lower than Logan's. Still, I guess he shows it's possible in 2008). Still, 3/24 with GB > 48% ISO'd over .180. (I may have missed someone, so you can go back and check. I did this pretty quickly). I mean, I know it's a 2 year sample size, which isn't a tremendous amount. But 5/50 guys have a GB rate over 48% and an ISO over .180. So yeah, 10% chance (exclusive of HR/FB consideration I know), which isn't good. I realize Logan's HR/FB% makes him more likely to put up a solid ISO with such a high GB rate. And that's fine, but at the same time, it's reasonable to assume that when he enters the majors Logan's GB% increases b/c major league pitchers are more likely to attack him that way than by trying to get him to pop up (b/c of his power). And, as you said (and unlike Maybin wiht his high GB%) Logan's not going to be beating out grounders with his speed, and major leaguers suck up more ground infield ground balls with their defense than do minor leaugers. And with the increased GBs, the BABIP drops, and the BA drops, and then the OPS drops. It's probably not unprecedented for a guy to drop his GB% by 5-10% upon entering the majors (which Logan would probalby have to do to OPS in the mid 800's), but I can't imagine it happens often. I mean, maybe it does sometimes. But intuitively I'd guess GB% probably increases upon entering the majors. And still, even if Logan's only ISOing .150-.160 (which I think is more reasonable based on his GB rates and HR/FB rates), he can still OPS ~.825 in those years where he's able to hit ~.290, so long as his walk rates don't drop too much once pitchers see he's not a huge power threat. That's a pretty productive 1B, but at the same time - not the monster 1B everyone's hoping for. Now Logan could always tweak his swing to put the ball in the air more - kind of like what Maybin's staring to do at AAA - but is Pressley the guy to do that? And is it worth counting on Logan tweaking his swing in order to reduce his ground balls? And, seeing as he's a solid bet to be at least league average in terms of 1B, is tweaking his swing with the hope it will produce more fly balls worth it. I guess I don't totally disagree with your projections, just your "most likely case." I don't have the faith that Logan's able to cut down on those ground balls enough to ISO high enough to put up that mid 800s OPS. He's far more likley to fall into the .150-.160 ISO range unless he's part of that 10% that can ISO +.180 with a GB rate of 48% or better. Now, even as a high 700's/low 800's he won't be a disappointment, and he could still be a very useful player. But if people are pretty set on Logan being a mid-high 800's hitter, it's not going to happen unless he changes some thigns in his swing/plate approach so that those GBs drop. And, to be honest, most people will probably be pissed if Logan turns out ot be a low 800's OPS guy, just like they'll be pissed when Maybin's a .770 OPS player and Dominguez doesn't OPS like .850.
  16. See, here's why I hate this thread. Because WMM is probably right about McLouth being more valuable than Hermida, but not for the reasons he thinks, and he's presenting his argument like a 5th grader whose Mom took away his electric blue crayon. Immediately dismissing stats like fielding percentage and errors, which I'd like to believe anyone born after the 1940's and/or who doesn't get their stats solely from the Jumbotron at baseball games would agree are extremely crude and strikingly poor measures of fielding ability, and awards like the Gold Glove, which most intelligent people realize aren't meaningful indicators of a player's fielding ability, we're left with +/-, the fielding stat developed by Bill James. +/- is probably the most comprehensive fielding stat publicly available (albeit, for a charge). Hermida: LF: 2005: 17 innings, +1 2009: 277 innings, -2 CF: (Jesus, Girardi let this asshole play CF?) 2006: 53 innings, +1 (sample size issues here, so you can pretty much discount anything typed/in any way assert Hermida could capably play CF.) RF: 2005: 58.2, +2 2006: 683.2, -2 2007: 985, +4 2008: 1092.1, +1 2009: 152.1, -1 McLouth: LF: 2006: 8 innings, 0 2007: 110.1, 0 2008: 18, 0 CF: 2005: 166, -1 2006: 345, 0 2007: 495.1, -5 2008: 1300.1, -21 (this was, like, historically bad.) 2009: 380, -2 RF: 2005: 52.2, +1 2006: 164.1, -1 2007: 68.0, 1 2008: 12, 0 Now, you may see these numbers and think, "hey, McLouth sucks in CF! Hermida's a better fielder!" But of course this ignores that CF is more difficult to play than either of the corner OF spots, and McLouth would likely be, like Hermida, an average corner OF. Also, John Dewan has this for you (paragraph breaks mine; Dewan wrote this as one long-ass paragraph, which was annoying to read): Well, I thought he was the worst outfielder in baseball, but Nate McLouth won a National League Gold Glove in 2008. Nate McLouth had a -40 plus/minus in center field. That means this: Take every ball hit in the air anywhere in the vicinity of Nate McLouth when he played center field Replace McLouth with an average center fielder The average center fielder would have caught 20 more of them than McLouth did, allowing a total of 40 fewer bases taken on those 20 caught balls McLouth's -40 was the worst plus/minus figure for any center fielder in baseball last year. Not only that, it was the worst plus/minus figure for any outfielder in baseball. Not only that, it was the worst plus/minus figure for any player in baseball. Is he that bad? No, absolutely not. The fact that there are a significant number of managers and coaches that think he's good definitely means something. There are aspects to being a good defensive outfielder that come into play other than catching balls hit in the air. They are lesser aspects, but important ones. I will get into more depth on these in The Fielding BibleVolume II coming out in February of 2009. For example, we are planning a video review of all McLouth's key fielding plays. But let me touch on a couple of things here. First, his throwing. While he only had two baserunner kills last year (direct throws to a base or home plate to nab a baserunner), he was the seventh best center fielder in preventing runners from taking an extra base on singles and doubles hit to centerfield. Second, his Good Plays and Defensive Misplays. The Video Scouts at Baseball Info Solutions have 27 categories of Good Plays and 55 categories of Defensive Misplays. They review every play and decide if a play fits one of those categories. It sounds somewhat subjective, but because of the strict definitions of the categories, it actually becomes quite objective. For example, here's the definition of one of the 55 Defensive Misplays: "Defensive Misplay Number 38, Failing to Anticipate the Wall: Outfielder goes to the outfield wall, allowing a ball to bounce over his head back toward the infield, allowing a runner or runners to take bases which they might not have been able to take had the fielder turned and played the ball off the wall." It turns out that this happened to McLouth six times last year, tied for the most in baseball with right fielder Bobby Abreu, and more often than any other center fielder (Aaron Rowand and B.J. Upton were second in CF with five). This is another weakness for McLouth. Overall, adding the six wall-difficulty plays to his other misplays, McLouth had a total of 24 defensive misplays and one error last season. That total of 25 is the ninth highest among all center fielders on the 30 teams last year. So, despite his low error total, McLouth is more prone to making poor plays in center field than the majority of other center fielders in baseball. However, his good plays more than make up for the 25 misplays and errors. He had 31 good plays, good for third place among center fielders behind Carlos Gomez of the Twins (33) and B.J. Upton of the Rays (32). This is clearly what managers and coaches who vote for the Gold Gloves were seeing. Net Plays are good plays minus defensive misplays and errors. McLouth had six more good plays than defensive misplays and errors, or six Net Plays. That was the seventh highest total in baseball among center fielders. Not bad. All in all, I no longer think of McLouth as the worst center fielder in baseball. It means something that at least some of the managers and coaches think highly of him. And we see that two areas of his defense are above average: his ability to prevent baserunners from advancing on hits and his ability to make a play above and beyond the ordinary. But we also see that, despite this low error total, he has more than his share of defensive misplays. And the most important aspect of playing outfield defense is covering ground, and McLouth struggles here big time. What you should gather from this is that McLouth is a better in the field than Hermida, but the difference isn't as pronounced as fielding %, errors, postseason awards, and WMM would have you believe. Now, on to hitting. We won't be using HRs, RBIs, or stolen bases, for the same "born after 1940/don't get your stats from a Jumbotron" reason. (And yes, I realize I sound like an arrogant dick, but I don't care). Hermida: (OBP/OPS/wOBA) 2005: .383/.1.017/.432 (small sample size, so whatever) 2006: .332/.700/.310 2007: .369/.870/.372 (yeah, he was great this year) 2008: .323/.729/.321 2009: .364/.751/.341 McLouth: 2005: .305/.755/.330 2006: .293/.678/.302 2007: .351/.810/.364 (yeah, he wasn't far off Hermida's "great" year in terms of wOBA, which is a bit suprising) 2008: .356/.853/.369 2009: .349/.819/.367 I mean, as good as Hermida's 2007 was, McLouth's been pretty much equal to that in 2007, 2008, and 2009. So, really, Hermida's "hitting" advantage is pretty small, if it even exists at all. And finally, per fangraphs, overall approximate value, in dollar amounts: Hermida: (career) $10.1 McLouth: $28.3 It should be noted that Hermida's two years younger. So, what can we conclude? For the rest of 2009, McLouth's a far better bet to succeed than Hermida. McLouth's last two seasons have been, essentially, equal to Hermida's 2007, and McLouth's 2009 is right on par with Hermida's 2007. And McLouth would be better defensively as a corner OF than Hermida. McLouth's been a better player throughout his career than Hermida (and would be markedly more valuable if McLouth would be positioned as a corner OF), and unless Hermida magically starts hitting for power/OPSing around .900, that's unlikely to change. If the Marlins could swap Hermida for McLouth straight up, and stick McLouth in a corner OF spot, I'd do it in a heartbeat. As for the future, well, whether you like Hermida or McLouth better depends on whether you believe Hermida can ever emerge as a reliable .900 OPS corner OF. I have my doubts, but hey, if you really like Hermida, good for you. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to put my tin foil hat back on so the coming world government can't read my thoughts and take away my Constitutional rights.
  17. 11 Brandon Pettigrew Bills TE, Oklahoma State I'll put this simply. The Bills do not have a good TE. I am not a fan of Pettigrew, but the man is a freak of nature when it comes to athleticism. Our current TE Royal drops passes left and right. While Pettigrew still may need some time to mature when it comes to being an elite blocking TE, he will come into the league right away and be a star catching the ball. Sounds like you're a Bills fan when you say "our"...also, Royal has not been on the team for awhile. Sorry for this super bump Robert Royal was the Bills' starting TE as recently as December of 2008. Buffalo released him February 26, 2009. So yeah. He has been on the team recently. Try again.
  18. For the record, Sanchez will make the minimum next year and be arbitration eligible in 2010.
  19. Some background on Sanchez: Jonathan Sanchez misses a LOT of bats. Unfortunately, sometimes that?s because he throws too many balls. But he also induces a lot of strikeouts. And he?s primed to break out in 2009. Sanchez had an okay year in 2008, posting a 5.01 ERA. He managed 157 strikeouts in only 158 innings, although this came with 75 walks and 14 homers as well. However, Sanchez?s ERA is misleading: his 08 campaign was actually pretty good, and, more importantly, there are several signs that his 09 could be a lot better. First of all, Sanchez was somewhat unlucky to post an ERA over 5 in 2008. His FIP was an impressive 3.85, and his tRA was 4.23 (league average is 4.77). Part of the problem was his BABIP: Sanchez allowed an inordinately high .327 BABIP this season. Additionally, Sanchez gave up an extremely high amount of hits in situations in which they scored the most runs: with runners at first and third, batters were 6-for-15; with runners at second and third, batters were 6-for-13; and with the bases loaded batters were 3-for-10 (with three walks). In those three situations, batters hit a combined .395, leading to an inordinately high number of runners scoring. Furthermore, of the 14 homers that Sanchez allowed, only six were solo shots ? despite the fact that 55% of at bats against Sanchez came with no one on base. In other words, Sanchez gave up far more hits and homers with runners on base than he ?should? have, leading to a disproportionately high number of runners who reached base coming around to score. Sure enough, his 67.5% LOB% provides further evidence of this. On the bright side, Sanchez struck out almost a batter per inning over 158 innings ? not an easy feat. Despite not throwing terribly hard (his fastball averaged 91 MPH), he showed a remarkable ability to induce swings-and-misses ? in fact, batters swung and missed at 10.9% of his Sanchez?s pitches, the 9th highest total in baseball. Pitchers who induced higher rates of swings-and-misses were a who?s who of major league baseball?s best pitchers: CC Sabathia, Scott Kazmir, Ryan Dempster, Johan Santana, Cole Hamels, Edinson Volquez, and John Danks. That?s some elite company. Certainly, Sanchez threw too many balls this year (38.6%, to be exact ? league average is 36.5%), and walked too many ? 4.27 per nine innings. However, starting pitchers who can get as many swings-and-misses ? and, therefore, strikeouts ? as Sanchez are few and far between. Sanchez?s ERA was artificially inflated by his inability to ?stop the bleeding? this year ? a fact that is probably borne from a combination of inexperience and bad luck. Therefore, it?s likely that Sanchez will fare better in ?clutch? situations next season, thus lowering his ERA, perhaps considerably. He will almost certainly rack up a lot of strikeouts. And, if he can cut down on his walks ? certainly possible ? he could lower his ERA even further. However, even if Sanchez walks too many, he?ll more than make up for it with a ton of strikeouts and a respectable ERA. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php...onathan-sanchez
  20. he's serving his time. get over it. Yea he's serving his time.... so we just welcome him back with open arms and let him make millions of dollars and pretend this never happened.... let me stick your head in a bucket till you pass out and lets see if you still feel the same way...or better yet let me tazer your a** to death... he's sick in the head,what he did to those dogs is something a person with real fu*ked up problems does... but your right,its only dogs,hey i'm gonna go buy his jersey right now and get ready to cheer him on... Then don't support him. Nobody is forcing you to do that. He can still play football without your support, you know. Example: I'm of the belief that Joey Porter is exhibit A of why sterilizing select people would greatly benefit society. But he gets by without my support. If you're going to let other people who have served significant time (Jamal Lewis) or have committed crimes but pleaded out or whatnot (Ray Lewis, Leonard Little - not sure if he ever went to jail, but he did kill a lady while driving drunk and then picked up another DUI a few years later) then you have to let Vick play. Yeah, he's a deranged individual who did a bunch of sick and twisted sh*t, but we're still talking about dogs.
  21. Vick will be back. What Leonard Little did is like 10,000 times worse and he's still allowed to play.
  22. Week 10 THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6 Cleveland Browns SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 9 New Orleans Saints Tennessee Titans Jacksonville Jaguars Houston Texans Miami Dolphins Green Bay Packers New England Patriots N.Y. Jets Carolina Panthers Pittsburgh Steelers San Diego Chargers N.Y. Giants MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10 Arizona Cardinals 9-5
  23. SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 2 N.Y. Jets at Buffalo Bills 1:00 p.m. Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears 1:00 p.m. Jacksonville Jaguars at Cincinnati Bengals 1:00 p.m. Baltimore Ravens at Cleveland Browns 1:00 p.m. Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Kansas City Chiefs 1:00 p.m. Houston Texans at Minnesota Vikings 1:00 p.m. Arizona Cardinals at St. Louis Rams 1:00 p.m. Green Bay Packers at Tennessee Titans 1:00 p.m. Miami Dolphins at Denver Broncos 4:05 p.m. Dallas Cowboys at N.Y. Giants 4:15 p.m. Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders 4:15 p.m. Philadelphia Eagles at Seattle Seahawks 4:15 p.m. New England Patriots at Indianapolis Colts 8:15 p.m. MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3 Pittsburgh Steelers at Washington Redskins 8:30 p.m. 8-6
  24. SUNDAY, OCTOBER 26 Baltimore Ravens Carolina Panthers Tampa Bay Buccaneers Washington Redskins Buffalo Bills. New England Patriots San Diego Chargers N.Y. Jets Philadelphia Eagles Houston Texans Jacksonville Jaguars Pittsburgh Steelers San Francisco 49ers MONDAY, OCTOBER 27 Tennessee Titans 8-6
  25. SUNDAY, OCTOBER 19 San Diego Chargers Carolina Panthers Chicago Bears Pittsburgh Steelers Tennessee Titans Baltimore Ravens N.Y. Giants Dallas Cowboys Houston Texans Indianapolis Colts N.Y. Jets Washington Redskins Tampa Bay Buccaneers MONDAY, OCTOBER 20 New England Patriots 10-4
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