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Sirspud

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  1. If we really want to move Bell, we're going to need some kind of heavy machinery.
  2. He had back to back .900 OPS seasons as a number three hitter. No, he didn't. Well, he did have back to back .900 OPS seasons, but, correct, one was predominately lead-off. He also had back to back .900 ops seasons as a leadoff hitter before that third season where he finally hit third full time. Oh, shoot, I missed that, yeah he did. Wow. Well, like I said, 2007 Hanley would be primo. Also hit .307 with RISP that year. Although 09 Hanley hit .373 with RISP ... Hmm. Yep he did, which is very inconsistent with what he has done in nearly every other year of his career (I believe in 1 or 2 other years at most he hit better with runners on than without). I don't tend to base my assessments of a player based on their one fluke year when the rest of their history contradicts that. Edit- just looked at last year and he actually dramatically outperformed himself with runners on than without. But as much better as he was last year, he is equally as worse this year, and his career still shows he OPS's 50 points higher without runners on.
  3. He had back to back .900 OPS seasons as a number three hitter. No, he didn't. Well, he did have back to back .900 OPS seasons, but, correct, one was predominately lead-off. He also had back to back .900 ops seasons as a leadoff hitter before that third season where he finally hit third full time.
  4. He had back to back .900 OPS seasons as a number three hitter. No, he didn't.
  5. I don't really care for your post because most of it was just you rambling. I'm just going to address the Hanley issue. I call BS on that. You were non stop complaining about him for years even though you were wrong. You most definitely did not see this coming. You, or anyone for that matter, did not hint that Hanley will fall off a cliff. You kept rambling on about how he cannot hit with RISP and you were continuously proven wrong about it. Yet sure enough the next time Hanley's name was brought up, you mentioned it again. You were wrong then, and you still are today. He has fallen off but like I said, stop pretending he was not elite from 07-10. He was elite. Hanley was elite as a hitter, and may have stayed that way had we asked him to continue to be a table setter instead of a middle of the order hitter.
  6. Seriously though, whether it's the Orioles prospects, or A's prospects, or Dodgers prospects, I'm not excited about any of them. At this point I'd rather just keep Hanley, but it doesn't seem the Marlins want to end this trade deadline with him still on the team. Kind of the same way I felt about Cabrera. We were trading a guy with HOF performance in his career before he even hit his peak. I knew we were trading a guy who was going to be part of baseball history for players who statisically had a very little chance of being elite for even one year was just depressing, and the fact that we got two prospects (and practically a dozen nobodies) who though highly rated also had significant question marks and reason to doubt them just made it worse. Hanley was once considered an elite player so I can understand why you would feel that way, but I feel the opposite about this if we could get reasonable value. It just sounds to me that its pretty doubtful we can get that.
  7. C'mon Cincinnati. We all know you want Hanley. Now offer us Billy Hamilton and we can all go on with our lives Seriously though, whether it's the Orioles prospects, or A's prospects, or Dodgers prospects, I'm not excited about any of them. At this point I'd rather just keep Hanley, but it doesn't seem the Marlins want to end this trade deadline with him still on the team. Yes, what we need is MORE SPEED! :lol Seriously, though, if Hamilton were to become an outfielder, not jack sh*t would drop in. Ever. "Line drive over the bag at second and it's caught by Hamilton the center fielder. 1 down." I'm not up on Hamilton's performance in the last month or so, but last I had heard he was doing pretty well all around offensively.
  8. Hanley has never been what the Marlins tried to force him to be. He was never capable of playing SS at a high level and he was never capable of being the offensive centerpiece for a team with legitimate aspirations. We had a HOF capable middle of the order bat entering the prime of his career, but we traded him and made Hanley our centerpiece player. Stupid move. This is a horrible post considering he has three .900 OPS seasons after Cabrera left. The dude was the definition of an offensive center piece. There is way more to being an offensive center piece than OPS. I look at Miguel Cabrera's numbers and I see dominance all around, while Hanley has only had a single 100 RBI season, something that even Jorge Cantu managed to do twice in his career. Cabrera had a homer rate of 1/19.4 with runners on, while Hanley was only 1/26. Hanley's career OPS with runners on was .468, while Cabrera manages .958, 90 points higher. The fact if the matter is that Hanley was a good hitter who was miscast as a middle order guy, while Cabrera is HOF caliber (that has been apparent from his second year.) RBI's are not relevant. He wasn't as good a hitter as Miguel Cabrera. I never said that. But he was an exceptional hitter. A top 10, if not top 5, hitter in baseball for a 4 year period. He hit well with runners on, in scoring position and runners on with two outs. These past two years were mediocre but don't pretend like 07-10 didn't happen. He was elite. Maybe Hanley's decline in production was a surprise to you but it wasn't to me. Hanley has always had questions about his work ethic and real commitment, along with a tendency to get banged up (though not majorly injured), along with a change in roles from primarily a table setter, where he could take whatever approach he wanted and try for whatever he wanted to do as long as he was productive, to having to do specific things to make the whole offense work. Hanley was pretty good in 2009, no doubt, but he became a pretty average hitter after that, even though he was the centerpiece of the lineup every day where average is simply not good enough. I saw a fall off in Hanley for a while, and most people will remember pretty clearly how I have been critical of Hanley for years. And I know the same crowd that thinks RBI's are irrelevant (because actual run production doesn't affect the outcome of games, of course, especially when you are the guy in the lineup primarily responsible for that)will think I just had a vendetta about Hanley, but I've pretty much been spot on about the way this team and its players would perform for years. I predicted Maybin & Miller would flame out (and also that Maybin would continue to suck even after some declared he had turned a corner lastyear), that Willingham would have a far more production career than Hermida, that Buck would flame, that Willis would fall off a cliff, that Cabrera would continue HOF production, that Ross would be a playoff superstar if he ever made it there, that Volstad would bomb, that Nunez wouldn't be an effective closer. Most of you criticised me for expressing a lot of these things, but I've been right about most of them while a lot of you continued citing numbers that you felt proved the opposite. You statheads really have never proven anything with me because you don't see beyond them. I've seen this team be one of the laughing stocks of the league for the last 6-7 years, meanwhile most of you statheads were just fine putting your rubber stamp on a lot of really terrible decisions. I've pretty much moved on from the Marlins because they've gotten rid of all but two or three players in the entire organization that were fun to root for. These days I'm too busy creating things that have a positive impact on the world to watch this pathetic organization composed of players whose most generous description at that point could be overrated or underperforming. But when you've been seeing the smoke for years, it's irresistable not to come back when there is a fire in what was supposed to be our great triumph year.
  9. Hanley has never been what the Marlins tried to force him to be. He was never capable of playing SS at a high level and he was never capable of being the offensive centerpiece for a team with legitimate aspirations. We had a HOF capable middle of the order bat entering the prime of his career, but we traded him and made Hanley our centerpiece player. Stupid move. This is a horrible post considering he has three .900 OPS seasons after Cabrera left. The dude was the definition of an offensive center piece. There is way more to being an offensive center piece than OPS. I look at Miguel Cabrera's numbers and I see dominance all around, while Hanley has only had a single 100 RBI season, something that even Jorge Cantu managed to do twice in his career. Cabrera had a homer rate of 1/19.4 with runners on, while Hanley was only 1/26. Hanley's career OPS with runners on was .468, while Cabrera manages .958, 90 points higher. The fact if the matter is that Hanley was a good hitter who was miscast as a middle order guy, while Cabrera is HOF caliber (that has been apparent from his second year.)
  10. Hanley has never been what the Marlins tried to force him to be. He was never capable of playing SS at a high level and he was never capable of being the offensive centerpiece for a team with legitimate aspirations. We had a HOF capable middle of the order bat entering the prime of his career, but we traded him and made Hanley our centerpiece player. Stupid move.
  11. I vaguely recall Peterson, but I can't remember what he does to remind me of a major league ball player.
  12. I've been following this team since i was 11 years old (I'm 17). And we haven't come very close to the post season in any season since. So it's your fault! I'm starting to think that. Its ok. The Dolphins last went to the Super Bowl (didn't win) 4 months before my birth.
  13. Hopefully when they clean out the front office after this ridiculous season the next FO will know what to do with draft picks.
  14. Just remember, every player who has every raised criticisms of Hanley's work ethic is still wrong.
  15. Signed to minor-league deal and assigned to AAA. Lol, lulz. What in the world. I might get raped for this but I kinda would have liked to see Baker with us. Not a trade for him just a what if. I only say this if he is doing semi good in San Diego and I haven't looked at the numbers. Baker was a good hitting catcher, but he was a terrible fielder. That still makes him better than most of the catchers we've had, who are terrible at both. I liked Brad Davis, not that he was good, I just thought he seemed like a decent guy from the TV specials and he played hard.
  16. I would also add that Cuban defectors have been overhyped since Livan and El Duque arrived in the US in the mid-1990s. Most international FA's are overhyped. Kosuke Fukudome anyone?
  17. It's a shame Hanley isn't white; people would probably like him more. 2nd best hitter on the team. First year at 3B and looks just fine out there. Logan Morrison has been playing LF for years and still looks like a moron out there. Funny how Hanley rarely gets credit for working hard and not looking like an idiot at 3B. Great thread though. Hanley is being paid like an all star so people EXPECT all star numbers. Being the 2nd best hitter on one of the worst offense in baseball is nothing to brag about. We should create threads about all the other players doing the same thing then. Jose Reyes makes more money and is doing worse. Who hates Jose Reyes?!?!? It's a silly thread. At least Reyes can field the SS position, something that Hanley couldn't do. And while that might be moot since Hanley isn't playing there, he's being paid like it and part of the reason he was highly thought of was that he hit extremely well for his position.
  18. I love all these new users. :| This place has been insufferable over the last 2 weeks or so. And I haven't even been posting here.
  19. This is a sports movie that I could watch with my wife and for one moment she could understand that my joy of watching sports partially comes from realizing that there are human beings both on the field and off who have to face similar pressures to those in normal jobs except with more intense scrutiny. This movie was as much about the struggles of going against the grain as it was about sports.
  20. I'd bet money that he has a pretty mediocre second half. Mediocre is a huge upgrade at this point. Not really, considering he's not really much of a defender, either. He does nothing to improve the outfield defense. The Marlins should be able to piece together low .700 OPS offensive production without taking on Willingham's contract. You say this as if Willingham isn't a lot better than that, offensively. Not that I really want him, but he would certainly be an upgrade. He can be that bad offensively (low to mid .700s) or he can be much better than that--it depends. He's too inconsistent for me to want to go out and acquire him right now. I have little confidence that he can maintain this level of production for a full season. Tough crowd when a guy whose OPS has been .810-.863 every year in the majors is labeled inconsistent.
  21. You can only blame Bell so much for being terrible. It's not as if he's trying to be bad. The people making the decision to use him, however, is another matter entirely. I've said it before; the level of stupidity is incomprehensible. Like something out of this world. I thought they put him back in that closer role rather quickly. Because Cishek blew a save? But then he seemed to be getting guys out. Now the bad Heath is back again. Cishek blew a save after his right fielder allowed a guy to get to third base on what should have been a single. It wasn't as if Cishek looked incompetent or had a meltdown out there.
  22. I've always disliked how the Marlins organization handles demotions, whether to the minors or just in a role. We drop guys down after they have struggled only to bring them back a short time later when they've scarcely had time to work out their issues.
  23. We don't need another guy that is so streaky and strikes out all the time in Lind...Carlos Lee would be perfect fit. EL Caballo!!! Except Lind is like ten years younger.
  24. Nice that Kearns has already made some real contributions with 3 homers in spot play.
  25. Looking at averages across the Marlins lineup, I'm not sure Stanton is the only one affected by the park.
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