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We almost traded Jose to Arizona for Corbin, Drury and Pollack I believe. Ultimately Loria vetoed it.

Not bullshit, Jose died and he lost his love for owning the team. It's been reported many times. He loved Stanton and Stanton was respectful. He wouldn't have moved him unless Stanton wanted out or opted out (it was 5 years in a player opt out I think). Stanton had a full no trade clause, I believe the only one the Marlins ever gave out. Stanton wasn't going anywhere unless he said so. Loria, for how cheap he was- wouldn't have agreed to that if the hope was he could trade his oft-injured OF (NO DH at the time) when the contact became expensive.

Don't be surprised, Liam Hicks wasn't arbitration eligible until 2028 and we still moved him. Nevermind the pitchers too.

Yeah, was a shame too. I really wish they would have had a chance for one more run with new ownership in 2018.

He’ll be traded for a 20 year old Low A prospect and a competing balance pick so we don’t have to pay down his contract too I’m sure.

We got nothing back for the reigning MVP who hit 59 HR’s because Jeter told every owner and their mother that he was getting traded. He gave up all leverage and then made it worse by alienating him by trying to trade him to a team on his no trade list. If he had held onto him, made it seem like he was going to invest instead of trade him and made him the first player moved secretly he would have gotten more then starling Castro and a bag of balls. The no trade list was also a big factor but key teams were on his trade list who would spend (dodgers, Yankees, cubs and giants). Dont forget, Loria may have back loaded that contract but he couldn’t move Stanton without his permission. Loria was absolutely paying that contract out if Fernandez didn’t die. Stanton didn’t even want to leave. Jeter legitimately made an enemy out for Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna and Realmutto.

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Want a good example of a buy super low and enjoy it candidate? Andrew McCutchen. A OF / DH (we just traded hicks) who is trying to hang on to a MLB job for maybe the final two months of his career. He wasn't resigned by Pittsburgh, He got cut by Texas. He signed a MINOR LEAGUE deal with Atlanta and hit 300 in AAA just to get released after they traded for more help. A Vet/Former MVP on the downside of his career who would sign for the pro rated MLB minimum in a heartbeat if it meant he'd get on a MLB roster. A Vet that can teach a few things, lead by example and help a few kids still trying to find their way. The Marlins won't even look his way. For a prorated MLB Contract or even a Minor League one. That's the difference between hope, and whatever the fuck this is. Atleast the previous regime would sign Luis Gonzalez, Jaque Jones, Mike Cameron, Furcal, Helms, Juan Pierre, Kearns, Penny, Ellis. None of those guys have the resume that McCutchen has. Yet Sherman will make sure Bendix' office phone cant dial out to him without calling collect.

Bruce doesn't care if he wins or loses, he just wants to make sure the franchise valuation keeps going up so he can either cash in his investment or keep borrowing against it for his personal life. He doesn't want to lose money, so as long as it "runs itself" he won't be moved to sell or compete. I'd give @Michael 's left baseball to get Loria to buy the team again. I'm pretty sure the ghost of Ol Crater Face Wayne Huizinga has more money than Sherman. Heck, John Henry's couch has more money in it.

Bendix is a Yes Man with an edict to make money and stay within the margins. He was happy to take the first job offered to him because he wanted it on his resume. He got a chance to act as a MLB GM and titled Baseball President and took it. Any of us would have done that. He won't ruffle feathers and he will toe the company line. He'll keep Parroting what he's told to repeat by Sherman's PR and he'll do it with a smile because he has a steady paycheck, lives in a tropical city and can pretend he's trying while the baseball world knows his owner keeps him on a Gimp leash. The difference is some guys want to win, and some guys think getting in that position is winning. Bendix thinks he has already won and he's playing with house money. He doesn't realize the house money is Chuck E. Cheese coupons and he's going to keep trading them for a 5000 ticket blowpop and a pencil topper baseball eraser.

The things I want to say about Jeter can't be typed on a phone keyboard while driving. I'd need to find a parking lot with overnight parking. He was without a doubt the driving force behind so many fan unfriendly initiatives the Marlins enacted, and it's disappointing Sherman hasn't course corrected after their fallout. With that said, I play 2K just to plunk Jeter. Green Light

He got a heck of a starting 5 in the amount of athletes Jeter drafted. unfortunately for us, Jeter forgot baseball is played with 9 on a diamond and not 5 on a hardwood court with nets on both sides. Jeter just went after every prom king and thought he'd get lucky.

I'm sorry man, but when we speak of the fans we're talking about the 12 here... because no one and I mean no one in south Florida gives a shit about this team because of how the market is treated by Sherman's and Manfreds MLB.

It's not whether they were replaceable or not, it's that they were traded and not replaced. This pattern of player for prospect turned player for prospect turned player for prospect has to stop at some point. Loria atleast traded good / star players for players who eventually became stars or good players. He would sell the farm to give us a chance (Urbina, loduca, Rodney). he'd Rinse and Repeat and we'd see light at the end of the tunnel even if we died before we reached it. They competed in 2006. He sold out for 2012. They were competitive enough by 2014/15. We got to cheer for Casey Fucking Mcgehee and he was decent. We had hope for Dallas McPherson. We had Cantù. He signed dudes who could atleast give us hope. They'll sign MLB players for minor league invites and give them a shot to turn it around. Loria went after star free agents a few times. Meanwhile Sherman traded Stanton, Ozuna, Yelich, Realmutto, and Gordon (four mvp candidates through the years) for two years of Starlin Castro and Sandy Alcantara. Nevermind what he's traded away starting pitching wise. His big signing was Asvail Garcia and a Mr Softee Machine for his private jet. He won't even give a guy with MLB service time a second look. I can't remember the last "was once good" vet we signed for the MLB minimum to see what he had left. Sherman doesn't have a competing fucking bone in his Aricept riddled fucking body. It's been so long since he's seen his wallet that he's canceled all the cards and has yet to activate the replacements. Three years later. He deletes the Applepay / Google pay apps as soon as he gets his phone so he doesn't have to send his grandkids money. He randomly sends Venmo requests to Steve Cohen and Hal Steinbrenner hoping they would accidentally accept so he can upgrade his Chevy Impala with a new sound system. His $10 checks for their birthdays bounce because he keeps using checks from Barnett Bank on purpose. He hasn't changed the oil in his car since the dealer stopped giving him free oil changes. He would have a flat tire and drive past 6 shops and 4 gas stations so he can fill up the tire with free air from Wawa. I'm just sick of this shit.

To be a 1.5 Games back and SELL is a slap in the face to every person who has continued to cheer this team through all the garbage. I really hope Manfred steps down, gets taken outside MLB headquarters and is violently beaten with a few crusty knee high tube socks full of nickels. How he let a owner like Sherman and Jeter swindle their way into MLB and destroy what little hope this market had at being a major league city for the rest of time is beyond me. I fully expect the Marlins to relocate or fold when the stadium deal expires (when is that again by the way? 2035? 2040?). Sherman will still be kicking up dust bunnies in his retirement home hoping to find a fucking First Baseman.