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Art Monk needs more love. :(

No. He's so overrated. Guy is the definition of "stat-compiler".


Glad to see Warren Moon get in.

And arguably the best known Redskins WR of all time on top of his mere "stats"
Which means what exactly?

Art Monk had one superstar season. Two above average seasons. Then thirteen average/below average seasons. He's not worthy of the Hall of Fame. Not even worthy of the Hall of Very Good. He certainly belongs in the Hall of Many Seasons Played.
 

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Im very happy to see Warren Moon in the HOF. He was an awesome player.

Art Monk should be in the HOF.

Michael Irvin should be in the HOF. Irvin's impact on those Cowboys team was huge. teams like those (mid 90's Cowboys, 80's 49ers, 70's Dolphins, 70's Steeler, current day Pats) teams like these should have multiple players in the HOF. These guys dominated their era like nobodys bussiness.

Kuchenburg the reason he isnt in the HOF is because no one likes him. He is a real jerk according to a lot of people, including people who played with him. He was one of the best OL ever and i think he should get in.

Cowher, I think he is gonna be a HOF coach one day.
 

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Can someone please give me an unbiased breakdown on exactly why Irvin belongs in the HOF? I looked at his raw stats, I compared them to his contemporaries and I was left unimpressed.

Now, I will freely admit that I never liked Irvin. I always thought he was a loud mouth that annoyed me. So obviously, like many of the HOF voters, I need some convincing.

Who is going to run the pro-Irvin campaign? :mischief2
 

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Irvin also had 87 catches for 1314 yards and 8 TD in his post-season career.

Personally, I think he's borderline. If he had not have gotten hurt, he probably would have taken himself off that line. I mean he was coming off a 1,000 yard season when his career was ended in Philly. He had a couple years left at least.
 

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I found a post containing this argument against Irvin [by Green18] in the kffl forum. I thought it was interesting...
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Year Team	G   GS		Rec		 Yds		  TD   

1988 Dallas  --   --	   32 (*)	   654 (*)	  5 (*)
1989 Dallas  --   --	   26 (*)	   378 (*)	  2 (*)
1990 Dallas  12   7		20 (*)	   413 (*)	  5 (*) 
1991 Dallas  16  16		93 (2)	  1523 (1)	  8 (9)  
1992 Dallas  16  14		78 (7)	  1396 (2)	  7 (8)  
1993 Dallas  16  16		88 (3)	  1330 (2)	  7 (10)  
1994 Dallas  16  16		79 (13)	 1241 (8)	  6 (14)   
1995 Dallas  16  16	   111 (5)	  1603 (4)	 10 (10)  
1996 Dallas  11  11		64 (27)	  962 (8)	  2 (*)  
1997 Dallas  16  16		75 (12)	1180 (21)	  9 (6)  
1998 Dallas  16  15		74 (14)	1057 (12)	  1 (*)   
1999 Dallas   4   4		10 (*)	   167 (*)	  3 (*)
  • Leads League ----- Once. Yardage, 1991
  • Top 5 in NFL ---- Receptions = only 3 times. Yardage, 4 times
  • Failed to make top 10 in league ---- More often than not.
  • He was never once in the top 5 for TDs.
  • In 1995, his best year as a pro, he wasn't even first in any category, barely even making the top 5 in catches and yards.
  • He topped 100 receptions only once, exceeded 80 catches only 3 times.
  • 1500+ yards only twice
  • 10 TDs only once.
 

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I am sorry to see Bob didnt make it again. Poor guy every year he gets to the finals for it and every year he doesnt get it. It is sorta almost a disrespect in a way considering it has gone on for about 8 years now for him.

Congrats to those that did get in, I cant say a bad word about any of them really.
 
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