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Seriously. South Florida doesn't support the team enough to justify ruling out Central Florida. And no, it's distance from Tampa isn't a factor. Playing in Orlando would allow for a large fanbase, and for visiting tourists to get to go the games and become fans.
 

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and how are alot of us gona see the games? or maybe even be able to watch them?
 

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and for visiting tourists to get to go the games and become fans.
Right, because people become fans of teams in places they visit.....and Orlando is a more popular destination than Miami and Ft. Lauderdale..... :blink:
 

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Seriously. South Florida doesn't support the team enough to justify ruling out Central Florida. And no, it's distance from Tampa isn't a factor. Playing in Orlando would allow for a large fanbase, and for visiting tourists to get to go the games and become fans.

I quote Tony Montana "No...F*** no".
 

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and how are alot of us gona see the games? or maybe even be able to watch them?

Are you kidding? Obviously the fan base isn't strong enough down there, why not try a place that would actually embrace a major league team. The Marlins need REVENUE that they aren't getting right now. You can watch the game on TV, like the majority of Floridians that care about the Marlins. And if you think Orlando isn't as popular as Miami and Fort Lauderdale for vacation, do some research.

From a 2004 American Society of Travel Agents Press Release:

According to the American Society of Travel Agents (ASTA)/Fodor`s
Winter Hot Spots Survey, travelers are returning to popular domestic
destinations during the 2003-2004 winter season. Orlando, Las Vegas
and New York City are once again the top three locations for
Americans.?

2003-2004
Top Destination % of Total
1. Orlando 23.0
2. Las Vegas 21.3
3. New York 9.4
4. Miami 4.2
5. Honolulu 4.0
6. Phoenix 4.0
http://www.astanet.com/news/releasearchive04/01_29_04.asp
7. Los Angeles
8. Denver
9. San Diego
10. Hawaii
http://www.travelsense.org/destinations/hotspots.asp


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The American Society of Travel Agents' (ASTA)/ Fodor's Summer Hot
Spots Survey of popularity of U.S. city destinations for the summer of
2003

Orlando (24.8 %)
Las Vegas (22.2 %)
New York (8.9 %)
San Francisco (7.3 %)
Honolulu (6.2 %)
Los Angeles (3.8 %)
San Diego (3.6 %)
Seattle (2.4 %)
Miami (2.3 %)
Phoenix (2.1 %)
http://www.travelcomexpo.com/travelcomrepo...sp?IssueID=1025


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Top 10 Domestic Destinations: 2004

1 - Las Vegas, NV 85.0%
2 - Orlando, FL 77.0%
3 - Maui, HI 54.7%
4 - Honolulu, HI 49.1%
5 - Phoenix/Scottsdale, AZ 23.7%
6 - New York City, NY 23.3%
7 (tie) - Anchorage, AK 15.7%
7 (tie) - Fort Myers, FL 15.7%
9 - San Francisco, CA 14.3%
10 - Los Angeles, CA 10.5%


Top 10 Domestic Destinations: 2003*

1 - Las Vegas, NV 80%
2 - Orlando, FL 66%
3 - AK Cruisetours 52%
4 (tie) - Honolulu, HI 50%
4 (tie) - Maui, HI 50%
6 - New York City, NY 25%
7 - Kauai, HI 18%
8 (tie) - Fort Myers, FL 13%
8 (tie) - Phoenix/Scottsdale, AZ 13%
10 - Los Angeles, CA 11%

Source: Carlson Wagonlit Travel Associates' 2004 Travel Trends Survey

?Carlson Wagonlit Travel Associates' 2004 Travel Trends Survey is
the travel agency powerhouse's most comprehensive survey to date, also
offers insight into current leisure travel trends, such as the
increasing popularity of cruising. The survey, conducted October 20 -
November 19, 2003?

Yahoo News
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040102/cgf007_1.html

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According to the United States Tour Operators Association:

Top United States Destinations

1. Las Vegas
2. Orlando
3. Various California
Disneyland, San Francisco, and Yosemite cited.

United States Tour Operators Association http://www.ustoa.com/_docs/surveytable.doc


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Here is another list of the 10 most visited cities in the United States.

Orlando, Florida
Las Vegas, Nevada
New York, New York
San Francisco, California
Los Angeles, California
New Orleans, Louisiana
Phoenix, Arizona
Miami, Florida
San Diego, California
Seattle, Washington
http://www.cheap-airline-tickets-now.com/trips.html


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CNN Travel November 2003

?A survey of American Express travel agents reported that they expect
Honolulu, Orlando, New York City, Las Vegas and Miami to be the top
U.S. destinations for the rest of the year.

Hawaii also tops the list of U.S. destinations in 2004. Next year,
agents said they expect Hawaii, Alaska, Las Vegas, New York City and
Orlando to be the top destinations.?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/11/10/travel.survey.ap/


Top 50 Destinations of the Year: 2006


50. Krakow
49. Rio de Janeiro
48. Phoenix
47. Auckland
46. Ayers Rock
45. Dallas
44. Zurich
43. Brisbane
42. Berlin
41. Nassau
40. Salzburg
39. Edinburgh
38. Vancouver
37. Prague
36. Milan
35. Punta Cana
34. Montreal
33. Toronto
32. San Diego
31. Cancun
30. Anaheim - Buena Park
29. Cairns
28. Dubai
27. Munich
26. Bangkok
25. Tokyo
24. Madrid
23. Dublin
22. Vienna
21. Chicago
20. Venice
19. Oahu
18. Miami
17. Boston
16. Florence
15. Hong Kong
14. Barcelona
13. Melbourne
12. Washington D.C.
11. Los Angeles
10. Orlando
9. San Francisco
8. Sydney
7. Singapore
6. Amsterdam
5. Las Vegas
4. London
3. Rome
2. Paris
1. New York City

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Hawaii tops the list of destinations where American travelers plan to
go in 2004, according to a survey released yesterday.

The survey of American Express travel agents also indicated that
Honolulu; Orlando, Fla.; New York, Las Vegas and Miami are expected to
be the top U.S. destinations for the rest of the year.

Star Bulletin: October 2003
http://starbulletin.com/2003/10/23/business/story2.html


http://www.hotwire.com/destination/travel-value-index2.jsp
 

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That's like saying Las Vegas would be a great place for professional sports because of all of the tourist that come through town. You think somebody from BFE is going to give a damn enough to go out and watch the Marlins after spending hundreds of dollars with their familes at Disney?
 
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and how are alot of us gona see the games? or maybe even be able to watch them?

Are you kidding? Obviously the fan base isn't strong enough down there, why not try a place that would actually embrace a major league team. The Marlins need REVENUE that they aren't getting right now. You can watch the game on TV, like the majority of Floridians that care about the Marlins. And if you think Orlando isn't as popular as Miami and Fort Lauderdale for vacation, do some research.

From a 2004 American Society of Travel Agents Press Release:

According to the American Society of Travel Agents (ASTA)/Fodor`s
Winter Hot Spots Survey, travelers are returning to popular domestic
destinations during the 2003-2004 winter season. Orlando, Las Vegas
and New York City are once again the top three locations for
Americans.?

2003-2004
Top Destination % of Total
1. Orlando 23.0
2. Las Vegas 21.3
3. New York 9.4
4. Miami 4.2
5. Honolulu 4.0
6. Phoenix 4.0
http://www.astanet.com/news/releasearchive04/01_29_04.asp
7. Los Angeles
8. Denver
9. San Diego
10. Hawaii
http://www.travelsense.org/destinations/hotspots.asp


---------------------------------------------------------

The American Society of Travel Agents' (ASTA)/ Fodor's Summer Hot
Spots Survey of popularity of U.S. city destinations for the summer of
2003

Orlando (24.8 %)
Las Vegas (22.2 %)
New York (8.9 %)
San Francisco (7.3 %)
Honolulu (6.2 %)
Los Angeles (3.8 %)
San Diego (3.6 %)
Seattle (2.4 %)
Miami (2.3 %)
Phoenix (2.1 %)
http://www.travelcomexpo.com/travelcomrepo...sp?IssueID=1025


---------------------------------------------------------


Top 10 Domestic Destinations: 2004

1 - Las Vegas, NV 85.0%
2 - Orlando, FL 77.0%
3 - Maui, HI 54.7%
4 - Honolulu, HI 49.1%
5 - Phoenix/Scottsdale, AZ 23.7%
6 - New York City, NY 23.3%
7 (tie) - Anchorage, AK 15.7%
7 (tie) - Fort Myers, FL 15.7%
9 - San Francisco, CA 14.3%
10 - Los Angeles, CA 10.5%


Top 10 Domestic Destinations: 2003*

1 - Las Vegas, NV 80%
2 - Orlando, FL 66%
3 - AK Cruisetours 52%
4 (tie) - Honolulu, HI 50%
4 (tie) - Maui, HI 50%
6 - New York City, NY 25%
7 - Kauai, HI 18%
8 (tie) - Fort Myers, FL 13%
8 (tie) - Phoenix/Scottsdale, AZ 13%
10 - Los Angeles, CA 11%

Source: Carlson Wagonlit Travel Associates' 2004 Travel Trends Survey

?Carlson Wagonlit Travel Associates' 2004 Travel Trends Survey is
the travel agency powerhouse's most comprehensive survey to date, also
offers insight into current leisure travel trends, such as the
increasing popularity of cruising. The survey, conducted October 20 -
November 19, 2003?

Yahoo News
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040102/cgf007_1.html

---------------------------------------------------------


According to the United States Tour Operators Association:

Top United States Destinations

1. Las Vegas
2. Orlando
3. Various California
Disneyland, San Francisco, and Yosemite cited.

United States Tour Operators Association http://www.ustoa.com/_docs/surveytable.doc


---------------------------------------------------------


Here is another list of the 10 most visited cities in the United States.

Orlando, Florida
Las Vegas, Nevada
New York, New York
San Francisco, California
Los Angeles, California
New Orleans, Louisiana
Phoenix, Arizona
Miami, Florida
San Diego, California
Seattle, Washington
http://www.cheap-airline-tickets-now.com/trips.html


---------------------------------------------------------


CNN Travel November 2003

?A survey of American Express travel agents reported that they expect
Honolulu, Orlando, New York City, Las Vegas and Miami to be the top
U.S. destinations for the rest of the year.

Hawaii also tops the list of U.S. destinations in 2004. Next year,
agents said they expect Hawaii, Alaska, Las Vegas, New York City and
Orlando to be the top destinations.?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TRAVEL/11/10/travel.survey.ap/


Top 50 Destinations of the Year: 2006


50. Krakow
49. Rio de Janeiro
48. Phoenix
47. Auckland
46. Ayers Rock
45. Dallas
44. Zurich
43. Brisbane
42. Berlin
41. Nassau
40. Salzburg
39. Edinburgh
38. Vancouver
37. Prague
36. Milan
35. Punta Cana
34. Montreal
33. Toronto
32. San Diego
31. Cancun
30. Anaheim - Buena Park
29. Cairns
28. Dubai
27. Munich
26. Bangkok
25. Tokyo
24. Madrid
23. Dublin
22. Vienna
21. Chicago
20. Venice
19. Oahu
18. Miami
17. Boston
16. Florence
15. Hong Kong
14. Barcelona
13. Melbourne
12. Washington D.C.
11. Los Angeles
10. Orlando
9. San Francisco
8. Sydney
7. Singapore
6. Amsterdam
5. Las Vegas
4. London
3. Rome
2. Paris
1. New York City

---------------------------------------------------------


Hawaii tops the list of destinations where American travelers plan to
go in 2004, according to a survey released yesterday.

The survey of American Express travel agents also indicated that
Honolulu; Orlando, Fla.; New York, Las Vegas and Miami are expected to
be the top U.S. destinations for the rest of the year.

Star Bulletin: October 2003
http://starbulletin.com/2003/10/23/business/story2.html


http://www.hotwire.com/destination/travel-value-index2.jsp



haha those people are laughing now....MLB picked the wrong city (Orlando is much better than Tampa) but baseball is needed in Miami because of the hispanic population but they need to get the stadium deal done now...this is getting crazy.

That's like saying Las Vegas would be a great place for professional sports because of all of the tourist that come through town. You think somebody from BFE is going to give a damn enough to go out and watch the Marlins after spending hundreds of dollars with their familes at Disney?


Yes.....I work for Marriott Vacation Club and trust me- families have LOTS of money to throw around. From what I hear, the Wide World of Sports is one of the best Spring Training Sites there is.....!
 

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The Hispanic population IS important, but if they haven't embraced the team like Marlin organization hoped yet, they might never fully embrace it.

By the way, the Knights now have 20 victories. The game last night was AMAZING.

Go Knights!
 

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:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy at this thread.

How old are you? Twelve?

I bet you rocked the FCAT.
 

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:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy at this thread.

How old are you? Twelve?

I bet you rocked the FCAT.

I sincerely hope you aren't talking about me. I proposed an idea that is based in logic and reason.

Is there a reason that this seems so ridiculous to you?
 

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The tourist idea is probably the worst argument you could have used. So you want to rely on fans of other teams who happen to be visiting orlando at the time to go out of their way to go watch the marlins? Sorry but thats a terrible idea.

This thread also wasted a few min of my life so please close it.
 

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I sincerely hope you aren't talking about me. I proposed an idea that is based in logic and reason.

Is there a reason that this seems so ridiculous to you?
You've just put forth a rock-solid, logical argument for why the NFL should place its next NFL franchise in Orlando.

I mean, Orlando is clearly a bigger tourist destination than Los Angeles. And no, its distance from Tampa isn't a factor.
 

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The Marlins are a team that are not supported by the local community or the local government. They struggle with the pay roll and have no place to play. How could relocating to an area that will potentially help create great opportunities for the Marlin organization not resonate with you, the fans. If you really cared about the future of the Marlins, you would not automatically reject this idea.

Please, instead of ridiculing this possibility, look at the possible implications of such a decision. If you still believe that it is as ludicrous as you do now, post reasons behind this belief.
 

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The Marlins are a team that are not supported by the local community or the local government. They struggle with the pay roll and have no place to play. How could relocating to an area that will potentially help create great opportunities for the Marlin organization not resonate with you, the fans. If you really cared about the future of the Marlins, you would not automatically reject this idea.
That's an argument for moving the team to a better location.

Orlando is quite possibly the worst place to move the team.

Divvying up the D-rays' territory does not equal a recipe for success.
 

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Tourists would in fact visit a Marlin game. You don't think that the parks get old? You can only go to Universal for so long before you need a break. A baseball game would be a nice departure from the grueling standing all day.

Who is impacted the most by the Disney/Orlando experience?
CHILDREN.

Building a fanbase of children from around the country will allow for a great national fanbase as they grow up. The sales of apparel and Marlin gear would increase across the country, and the commercial appeal of the Marlin organization would grow as well.

Children would associate Disney experience, which they see as "magical", with the Marlins. As the magic of Disney began to fade with time, the love of the Marlins would continue to grow. Baseball never loses its appeal, no matter the age (or as I've observed)

Of course, this is not the only possibility, but it is something that must be looked at and must not be immediately cast aside.

The Marlins are a team that are not supported by the local community or the local government. They struggle with the pay roll and have no place to play. How could relocating to an area that will potentially help create great opportunities for the Marlin organization not resonate with you, the fans. If you really cared about the future of the Marlins, you would not automatically reject this idea.
That's an argument for moving the team to a better location.

Orlando is quite possibly the worst place to move the team.

Divvying up the D-rays' territory does not equal a recipe for success.


D-rays territory? From experience, there are a lot more Marlin fans than D-ray fans here. Also, look at teams in California and in New York. I don't see them complaining about infringement of their "territory"
 

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