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the NL is so stacked at SS...christ.

No doubt. And the SS Atlanta brought back in the LaRoche deal, Brent Lillibridge, is a very good hitter as well(although he is uncharacteristically struggling this year in his AA debut).
 

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the NL is so stacked at SS...christ.
I can't recall ever being this stacked
 

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Sadly, I could see La Russass bringing Eckstein over other much better choices as well.
I could see Eckstein easily winning the fan vote thanks to ballot stuffing Cardinal fans.
 

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They dont do that...oh wait, Rolen got the fan vote when he had missed almost the entire first half a few years ago? Nunt uh!
 

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the NL is so stacked at SS...christ.
I can't recall ever being this stacked
Remember when there used to be three great shortstops and some has-been named Cal? :mischief2
 

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That wasnt the NL.
Oops. Forgot the title of this thread.

HOWEVER - throw in guys like Jeter and Tejada and Young and Peralta and Guillen... SS's these days can ALL hit!
 

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Adam Everett still cant. Neither can Izturis. Jack Wilson has an empty average. Seabass will come back down to earth. Zobrist is struggling. A few more I have left out.

Id say the offensive minded SS is still a work in progress, but they definantly are replacing the defense only SS.
 

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meh... Sea Bass is so much better now that he ain't hitting 8th
 

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That wasnt the NL.
Oops. Forgot the title of this thread.

HOWEVER - throw in guys like Jeter and Tejada and Young and Peralta and Guillen... SS's these days can ALL hit!



"Me and my .357 career SLUG disagree vehemently"

David Ecksetin is a great example of no offense, no defense SS.
 

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His Hustle% is out of this world though.

Hustle% > *
 

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His Hustle% is out of this world though.

Hustle% > *

And as representives of the lollipop guild, we'd like to welcome you to munchin land!
 

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His GEQA is so high, it's not even funny. With the exception of Darrin Erstad, his GEQA is like 2 times higher than anyone in the league... It's sick.
 

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Cardinals fans arent worried about Ecksteins offensive struggles this year, to paraphrase them
"slumping at the plate or not, Eckstein's defense will keep him in the lineup".

I laughed.
 

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the NL is so stacked at SS...christ.
I can't recall ever being this stacked
Neither can I and I go back to the days of Dave Concepcion, Chris Spier, Dennis Menke and Maury Wills...I almost forgot Admin Bowa
 

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Eck wont go and Tony isnt dumb enough to pick him. He might take his catcher seeing as nobody but McAnn should be there now, but he wont take eckstein. Reyes is the only guarentee and I think 3 will go in total. Renteria, Hardy, Rollins and Ramirez with possibly Felipe Lopez from Washington will compete for the other 3 spots.

The only reason I say Lopez is if Zimmerman doesnt go from Wash. 3rd base will be cluttered with cabby, wright and a-ram so zimmerman might not get elected.

2 months left so we'll see how it goes.
 

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Eck wont go and Tony isnt dumb enough to pick him. He might take his catcher seeing as nobody but McAnn should be there now
Russell Martin and Jonny Estrada disagree
 

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For all the haters, Eckstein still hit .292 last year [EXACTLY = to someone else :mischief2 ]. That's some decent production from a SS.
In 2006, the starting SS's for MLB AVERAGED 141 htis/season with a BA of .279 and this year's crop is even better. I'm thinking about doing a similar list for all SS's in 1996 just to compare how much things have changed in 10 years.
PosPlayer Ag G AB R
H
2B
3B
HR
RBI
BB
SO
BA
SS
Craig Counsell
35
105
372
56
95
14
4
4
30
31
47
.255


SS
Edgar Renteria
30
149
598
100
175
40
2
14
70
62
89
.293


SS
Miguel Tejada
30
162
648
99
214
37
0
24
100
46
79
.330


SS
Alex Gonzalez
29
111
388
48
99
24
2
9
50
22
67
.255


SS
Ronny Cedeno
23
151
534
51
131
18
7
6
41
17
109
.245


SS
Juan Uribe
26
132
463
53
109
28
2
21
71
13
82
.235


SS
Felipe Lopez
26
85
343
55
92
14
1
9
30
47
66
.268


SS
Jhonny Peralta
24
149
569
84
146
28
3
13
68
56
152
.257


SS
Clint Barmes
27
131
478
57
105
26
4
7
56
22
72
.220


SS
Carlos Guillen
30
153
543
100
174
41
5
19
85
71
87
.320


SS
Hanley Ramirez
22
158
633
119
185
46
11
17
59
56
128
.292


SS
Adam Everett
29
150
514
52
123
28
6
6
59
34
71
.239


SS
Angel Berroa
28
132
474
45
111
18
1
9
54
14
88
.234


SS
Orlando Cabrera
31
153
607
95
171
45
1
9
72
51
58
.282


SS
Rafael Furcal
28
159
654
113
196
32
9
15
63
73
98
.300


SS
Bill Hall
26
148
537
101
145
39
4
35
85
63
162
.270


SS
Jason Bartlett
26
99
333
44
103
18
2
2
32
22
46
.309


SS
Jose Reyes
23
153
647
122
194
30
17
19
81
53
81
.300


SS
Derek Jeter
32
154
623
118
214
39
3
14
97
69
102
.343


SS
Bobby Crosby
26
96
358
42
82
12
0
9
40
36
76
.229


SS
Jimmy Rollins
27
158
689
127
191
45
9
25
83
57
80
.277


SS
Jack Wilson
28
142
543
70
148
27
1
8
35
33
65
.273


SS
Khalil Greene
26
122
412
56
101
26
2
15
55
39
87
.245


SS
Omar Vizquel
39
153
579
88
171
22
10
4
58
56
51
.295


SS
Yuniesky Betancourt
24
157
558
68
161
28
6
8
47
17
54
.289


SS
David Eckstein
31
123
500
68
146
18
1
2
23
31
41
.292


SS
Julio Lugo
30
73
289
53
89
17
1
12
27
27
47
.308


SS
Michael Young
29
162
691
93
217
52
3
14
103
48
96
.314


SS
John McDonald
311042603558733231641.223SS Royce Clayton368730536822210271953.2691345057514128412574079.279
 

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For all the haters, Eckstein still hit .292 last year [EXACTLY = to someone else :mischief2 ]. That's some decent production from a SS.

Yeah to go witg a .694 OPS.

He hits for the emptiest batting average ever. Thats why BA is an awful stat when evaluating a player. He had an 81 OPS+, ie, he's awful.
 

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