SorianoFanHFW Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Discuss my vote goes to Hoover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I was wondering when someone would post the best president poll. I'm going to have to think about this for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 My vote went to Harry S Truman. While he was a Democrat, that doesn't rule him out of my considerations. I liked his no BS way of taking care of business. :thumbup He desegregated the military, which is cool. I'm not a civil rights activist, I sure as hell ain't no Al Sharpton, but I respect Truman for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i gotta go with warren harding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPosey Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Coolidge- like my grandfather always said:he didn't do anything good, he didn't do anything bad, he didn't do a damn thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i gotta go with warren harding hahaha i was wondering if anyone would vote for him. Possibly the worst president ever. That was the first year women could vote, coincidence, i think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPosey Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i gotta go with warren harding hahaha i was wondering if anyone would vote for him. Possibly the worst president ever. That was the first year women could vote, coincidence, i think not. like my grandfather always said "when women started voting, it was the ruination of this country" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippyO Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 HOOVER? Who the f*** voted for Hoover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted April 25, 2004 Author Share Posted April 25, 2004 HOOVER? Who the f*** voted for Hoover? Discuss my vote goes to Hoover Take a guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippyO Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Editing after the fact, eh? How clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Editing after the fact, eh? How clever. No, he seriously voted for Hoover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 I went with Teddy Roosevelt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippyO Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Editing after the fact, eh? How clever. No, he seriously voted for Hoover. Yeah, but was his comment there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 Editing after the fact, eh? How clever. No, he seriously voted for Hoover. Yeah, but was his comment there. Yeah it was there. I clicked on this quickly after he posted it. Why the hell he picked Hoover I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippyO Posted April 26, 2004 Share Posted April 26, 2004 yep I have developed what the scientists call, a subconscious aversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted April 26, 2004 Author Share Posted April 26, 2004 subcouncious aversion, being a d-bag...whatever Long Hoover Speech for Intelligent People: Nonetheless, I did indeed vote for Hoover and for a VERY good reason. He 100% supports my morals and libertarian political/economic philosophy. Hoover was a great man, a true rugged individual. He was a self-made quaker, who did charity work around the world and was smart enough to seel his gains in the stock market when he saw it was obviously too inflated. He was a man of morals. He believed that the executive should not pursue agendas not in the best interest of the people, believed in efficiency, and worthwhile reform. The Hoover commission, headed by Hoover under truman would make our military and other departments more efficient. As president, he stuck to his guns and sound economic theory and his response to the depression was the RFC and the FDIC. The FDIC never passed under Hoover even though he wanted it, because he believed in a sound stable economy where the gov't played a minimal role. The RFC and the FDIC would help build stability and trust in the nation's banks and economies. Doing anything more would be immoral. Central to his and my philosophy is that an individual's merit should dictate how well someone does in life. This includes a minimal participation from gov't, who's own agenda is nothing more than self-perpetuation and it's very existence cost a nation's economy it's efficiency. However, gov't is needed for stability and support. Hoover stood for a gov't which provided for the people to the maximum extent without ridding people their right's of success via merit. Before FDR came to power, the American people would never tolerate men putting guns to your head and taking the money YOU earned and handing it to someone else or inefficiently squandering it. My friends, socialism is the very act of putting a gun to your head, taking YOUR hard earned money, and handing it to someone else regardless of merit. Hoover pressed for everything that was important. Charity, economic stability, the perfect amount of gov't that would not impede on our rights as individuals, and the maximum chance of economic recovery. Here's a newsflash for many of you. The New Deal worsened the depression. All signs (and actual) economic recovery began well during Hoover's administration. The New Deal increased taxes, ruined the economy's efficieny, and in result made more unemployment and starvation than need be. Economic problems in 1935 forced the democratic party to buy votes in the 1936 election by making Social Security, and only World War II got us out of the second great depression caused by Roosevelt and his unsound tax policies of the late 30s. Roosevelt would rob us of our rights as individuals and out ability to earn our achievement's through merit. We would lose our rights to the government and the government in turn grew into an inefficient monster, just growing larger and larger and taking more and more of our rights. That's why ideologically, Hoover was the best president ever. He was a true well meaning guy, a good person, with the right policies, with the right stances, and had the NUTS to actually do what was right. Theodore Roosevelt in reality was a Taft Light, but his image makes him appear far greater. FDR hurt this country and started the cycle of our rights evaporating. Hoover actually effectively ran the gov't to the ebst of his ability for economic recovery and morally, believing in merit, volunteerism, and basic inalienable rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Although he had his faults, such as the time before WWII when he tried to pack the Supreme Court, FDR led the nation through one of the toughest times in history, and helped to create the predecessors of many of the government programs that exist today. Time magazine also ranked him as the best president of the 20th century. Here are their rankings: 1. FDR 2. Teddy Roosevelt 3. Woodrow Wilson 4. Harry S. Truman 5. Dwight D. Eisenhower 6. Ronald Reagan 7. LBJ 8. JFK 9. George Bush Sr. 10. Bill Clinton 11. William H. Taft 12(tie)Gerald Ford 12(tie)Calvin Coolidge 14. Jimmy Carter 15. Richard Nixon 16. Warren Harding 17. Herbert Hoover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Although he had his faults, such as the time before WWII when he tried to pack the Supreme Court, FDR led the nation through one of the toughest times in history, and helped to create the predecessors of many of the government programs that exist today. Time magazine also ranked him as the best president of the 20th century. Here are their rankings: 1. FDR 2. Teddy Roosevelt 3. Woodrow Wilson 4. Harry S. Truman 5. Dwight D. Eisenhower 6. Ronald Reagan 7. LBJ 8. JFK 9. George Bush Sr. 10. Bill Clinton 11. William H. Taft 12(tie)Gerald Ford 12(tie)Calvin Coolidge 14. Jimmy Carter 15. Richard Nixon 16. Warren Harding 17. Herbert Hoover Time is a rather liberal publication however so those rankings are definitely not the end all be all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted April 27, 2004 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 How in the name of hell is hoover dead lasts afted FDR and LBJ??? Totally absurd. If FDR hurt more people than he helped, how is he good? Please, someone enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatOne Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 My Top 3 Teddy Clinton Truman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted April 27, 2004 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 Taft>Teddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 subcouncious aversion, being a d-bag...whatever Long Hoover Speech for Intelligent People: Nonetheless, I did indeed vote for Hoover and for a VERY good reason. He 100% supports my morals and libertarian political/economic philosophy. Hoover was a great man, a true rugged individual. He was a self-made quaker, who did charity work around the world and was smart enough to seel his gains in the stock market when he saw it was obviously too inflated. He was a man of morals. He believed that the executive should not pursue agendas not in the best interest of the people, believed in efficiency, and worthwhile reform. The Hoover commission, headed by Hoover under truman would make our military and other departments more efficient. As president, he stuck to his guns and sound economic theory and his response to the depression was the RFC and the FDIC. The FDIC never passed under Hoover even though he wanted it, because he believed in a sound stable economy where the gov't played a minimal role. The RFC and the FDIC would help build stability and trust in the nation's banks and economies. Doing anything more would be immoral. Central to his and my philosophy is that an individual's merit should dictate how well someone does in life. This includes a minimal participation from gov't, who's own agenda is nothing more than self-perpetuation and it's very existence cost a nation's economy it's efficiency. However, gov't is needed for stability and support. Hoover stood for a gov't which provided for the people to the maximum extent without ridding people their right's of success via merit. Before FDR came to power, the American people would never tolerate men putting guns to your head and taking the money YOU earned and handing it to someone else or inefficiently squandering it. My friends, socialism is the very act of putting a gun to your head, taking YOUR hard earned money, and handing it to someone else regardless of merit. Hoover pressed for everything that was important. Charity, economic stability, the perfect amount of gov't that would not impede on our rights as individuals, and the maximum chance of economic recovery. Here's a newsflash for many of you. The New Deal worsened the depression. All signs (and actual) economic recovery began well during Hoover's administration. The New Deal increased taxes, ruined the economy's efficieny, and in result made more unemployment and starvation than need be. Economic problems in 1935 forced the democratic party to buy votes in the 1936 election by making Social Security, and only World War II got us out of the second great depression caused by Roosevelt and his unsound tax policies of the late 30s. Roosevelt would rob us of our rights as individuals and out ability to earn our achievement's through merit. We would lose our rights to the government and the government in turn grew into an inefficient monster, just growing larger and larger and taking more and more of our rights. That's why ideologically, Hoover was the best president ever. He was a true well meaning guy, a good person, with the right policies, with the right stances, and had the NUTS to actually do what was right. Theodore Roosevelt in reality was a Taft Light, but his image makes him appear far greater. FDR hurt this country and started the cycle of our rights evaporating. Hoover actually effectively ran the gov't to the ebst of his ability for economic recovery and morally, believing in merit, volunteerism, and basic inalienable rights. i knew there was a purpose to making this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted April 27, 2004 Author Share Posted April 27, 2004 Not really, stop trying to act like I'm some evil person with alterior motives. Someone asked me why, I gave an honest answer. EXCUSE ME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted April 27, 2004 Share Posted April 27, 2004 Clinton. All BJ stuff aside he ruled. Plus people blew that whole thing out of proportion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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