ChoitotheWorld Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Hudson is injured, so Joe choose another yankee, Javier Vasquez to replace him. The AL All-star team is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardsJimEdmonds15 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Pretty ridiculous if you ask me :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Phenom Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Gay, Just gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoitotheWorld Posted July 9, 2004 Author Share Posted July 9, 2004 Of course it would kill Torre to put a more deserving Pedro in. :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiRi Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Hudson is injured, so Joe choose another yankee, Javier Vasquez to replace him. The AL All-star team is a joke. 448022[/snapback] Who woulda thunk it! They might as well have it a Yankees vs. National game. Sheesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Of course it would kill Torre to put a more deserving Pedro in. :thumbup 448384[/snapback] vaz is having a better season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 It isn't like Vasquez is having a bad season. Yeah, he plays on the Yankees but if he deserves it then he deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 actually, pedro did get an invite before vaz: 07/09/2004 12:53 AM ET Martinez declines All-Star invite By Ian Browne / MLB.com BOSTON -- Some would argue that Red Sox ace Pedro Martinez deserved to be an All-Star for the seventh time in his career. Though he was initially not selected when the team was announced on Sunday, it turns out he had a chance to go to Houston. With A's right-hander Tim Hudson on the disabled list with a strained oblique muscle, Martinez was invited to take the vacant spot. However, Martinez politely declined the invitation. "They told me today, it was just too late," said Martinez. "I would have loved to do it, but I had already made plans. I would have loved to go." Martinez indicated after his victory Tuesday night that he was likely to spend the All-Star break resting in his native land, the Dominican Republic. The three-time Cy Young Award winner is 9-3 with a 3.67 ERA. He is third in the American League with 112 strikeouts. When Martinez decided not to take Hudson's spot, the honor went to Yankee starter Javier Vazquez. American League All-Star manager Joe Torre instructed Major League Baseball to use the player balloting to determine which players should serve as replacements for those who couldn't go because of injury. "Pedro was the next one on the list," said Torre. "And evidently, when he didn't make it initially, he made plans to do other things. By the time he was asked, he already had made plans for the break." Martinez understood the fact he didn't make the original team. "I've been there [six] times," Martinez said. "There's a lot of people to choose. A lot of people are having great years. To me, it's not a big deal." http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...r2004&fext=.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaq-Man Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Of course it would kill Torre to put a more deserving Pedro in.?? :thumbup 448384[/snapback] vaz is having a better season 448416[/snapback] theres no question pedro deserved to go before vaz, and theres no question pedro was having a better season, too. his ERA is a hair worse than vaz, despite pitching in quite a hitters park (fenway). his won/loss record is also better despite being on a worse team.... that said, westbrook and even radke probably deserved it more than vaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 k/BB, whip...go to Vaz. Innings go to Vaz as well, and ERA does...face it, he's better. coaches and players voted for Vazquez, not Torre, though he loves sending Yankees to the all-star game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Well seeing as Pedro got the invite and turned it down, there's nothing wrong with this move. The real problem is that Pedro turned it down. Players have lost their appreciation for what it means to be an All-Star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchoftheday Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 another reason why to hate the yanks sorry sorifan I would like your team but man year after year with an exesive amount of yankee players kinda gets on my nerves I think the AL team should wear pinstripes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 The AL All Star team this year is as big a joke as any all star team I've ever seen. I'm glad I won't be home Tuesday Night to watch this Yankees vs. National League crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 another reason why to hate the yanks sorry sorifan I would like your team but man year after year with an exesive amount of yankee players kinda gets on my nerves I think the AL team should wear pinstripes 448533[/snapback] Most teams use pinstripes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Pedro is better than Vasquez, whoever says else is a moron and/or a homer. Pedro puts fear into hitters and can strike out the best of them. Pedro was awful at the start of this year and after fixing a mechanic problem has been superb. Im semi-glad he turned down the invite because I would like him to take the complete rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SorianoFanHFW Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Oh I agree, Pedro is still the best pitcher in the game and anyone who does not think that is as dumb as some Red Sox posters I know. However, All Star appearances do not reward pass performances or hypotheticals (like who would you rather pitch game 7 of the world series, Pedro or Vazquez and ect.) It is about stats...that stats are clearly in Vazquez's favor, case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoitotheWorld Posted July 9, 2004 Author Share Posted July 9, 2004 Yes, but one last yankee should make the team due to the Giambi and Gorden thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 And for the record, the amount of Yanks this year TIES the amount that were sent by the Mariners in 2001, so this isn't the first time it's happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoitotheWorld Posted July 10, 2004 Author Share Posted July 10, 2004 And for the record, the amount of Yanks this year TIES the amount that were sent by the Mariners in 2001, so this isn't the first time it's happened. 450497[/snapback] The 2001 mariners actually had that many all-star caliber players. Giambi and Gordon don't belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Gordon does, Jeter and Giambi don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Oh I agree, Pedro is still the best pitcher in the game and anyone who does not think that is as dumb as some Red Sox posters I know. However, All Star appearances do not reward pass performances or hypotheticals (like who would you rather pitch game 7 of the world series, Pedro or Vazquez and ect.) It is about stats...that stats are clearly in Vazquez's favor, case closed. 448616[/snapback] I applaud you for finally being rational with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Gordon does, Jeter and Giambi don't. 450576[/snapback] I agree that Giambi doesn't deserve because he's been injured. By that same token, Nomar doesn't deserve to be an all-star but in reality it's a popularity contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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