Passion Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 That was one of the most pitiful things I have ever seen. Most of you will discount my statements because I am a Conservative, but none of you dems can possibly tell me that, the interview wasnt one of the saddest things you have ever seen. Kerry and Edwards had a free chance to put the hammer down on some of their issues but instead stumbled and walked totally around the Iraqi Wat stance. The two looked liuke bumbling fools and lovers. Constantly takign up for the other like they were getting bullied. Kerry didnt answer anything soley by himself and had his b/f Edwards pick up his slack. It is very easy to knock someone when they are on top, but please could this ticket come up with some issues they believe in? If I was a dem right now, i would be very worried and sickened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoitotheWorld Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Republican victory in November is looking probable lately :hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 I would vote a Gore/Liberman ticket for the next 12 years before I voted Kerry/Edwards in for one term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TealMonster Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Maybe a BUSH/Giuliani '04? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoitotheWorld Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 I don't think Kerry has said anything that he will do in office. He keeps criticizing Bush and says what he believes needs to be done. He's also still yet to define himself in the campaign. Isn't he a Vietnam vet??? :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 Maybe a BUSH/Giuliani '04? 453892[/snapback] Its too late for them to change. It wont happen. Bush is sticking to his guns and doesnt want to seem weak in front of Kerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 If I was a dem right now, i would be very worried and sickened. 453861[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 If I was a dem right now, i would be very worried and sickened. 453861[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 It's ok, I didn't think you would like him even if he runs with Jesus. I actually thought the interview was a success. Particularly because many journalists have tried to trample him into saying that the Iraq war was a mistake. I thought that Kerry seemed much more at ease when Edwards is there to back him up and put things in perspective. He actually didn't seem unapproachable or rigid. I like Edwards' influence on Kerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Kerry can't say s*** because he supported the Iraq war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Or, wait... no he didn't. No, wait, yes he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Kerry can't say s*** because he supported the Iraq war. 456066[/snapback] Everyone (including me) supported the war when we thought the intelligence behind it was: "pretty darn good intelligence"(G.W Bush) :mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Some of us didn't support the cause because of intelligence... rather, common sense, if you get my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 What I'm saying is a lot of us supported the war because of the brutality of Saddam's regime. Like, when he used chemical weapons on the Kurds. You know, those things he doesn't have. :cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 What I'm saying is a lot of us supported the war because of the brutality of Saddam's regime. Like, when he used chemical weapons on the Kurds. You know, those things he doesn't have. :cool 456082[/snapback] I have to agree that Saddam was a psychopatic dictator. However, that wasn't the reason we went to war. Let's not get into it again. You guys already know my opinion and I know yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 that was the reason I supported the war. But... OK that sounds good. :cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 It's ok, I didn't think you would like him even if he runs with Jesus. I actually thought the interview was a success. Particularly because many journalists have tried to trample him into saying that the Iraq war was a mistake. I thought that Kerry seemed much more at ease when Edwards is there to back him up and put things in perspective. He actually didn't seem unapproachable or rigid. I like Edwards' influence on Kerry. 456064[/snapback] Not ture. In the primaries, I thought Kerry would be the one Dem I could see myself voting for. Now he has nothing to set his campaign on other than "Bush has done this, Bush did this, Bush sucks" Lets see what he thinks that HE can do to help America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 It's ok, I didn't think you would like him even if he runs with Jesus. I actually thought the interview was a success. Particularly because many journalists have tried to trample him into saying that the Iraq war was a mistake. I thought that Kerry seemed much more at ease when Edwards is there to back him up and put things in perspective. He actually didn't seem unapproachable or rigid. I like Edwards' influence on Kerry. 456064[/snapback] Not ture. In the primaries, I thought Kerry would be the one Dem I could see myself voting for. Now he has nothing to set his campaign on other than "Bush has done this, Bush did this, Bush sucks" Lets see what he thinks that HE can do to help America. 456103[/snapback] Dude, I am sorry but that is absolutely not true. The man has said a million time what he plans to do; it could be that you are just not listening. If anything on most of the ads and interviews Kerry has been in, he has not criticized Bush enough and it drives many people on our side crazy. We would like to see him be more aggressive. Instead, the tone of his campaign is "optimism" and "let America be America again"... We would like to see an ad from the campaign where he accuses Bush of being a flip flopper. I don't think we'll get our wish. Only Moveon.org is doing the dirty laundry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 John promised me a lot of Heinz 57 if I voted for him. I love that stuff but I don't know man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 It's ok, I didn't think you would like him even if he runs with Jesus. I actually thought the interview was a success. Particularly because many journalists have tried to trample him into saying that the Iraq war was a mistake. I thought that Kerry seemed much more at ease when Edwards is there to back him up and put things in perspective. He actually didn't seem unapproachable or rigid. I like Edwards' influence on Kerry. 456064[/snapback] Not ture. In the primaries, I thought Kerry would be the one Dem I could see myself voting for. Now he has nothing to set his campaign on other than "Bush has done this, Bush did this, Bush sucks" Lets see what he thinks that HE can do to help America. 456103[/snapback] Dude, I am sorry but that is absolutely not true. The man has said a million time what he plans to do; it could be that you are just not listening. If anything on most of the ads and interviews Kerry has been in, he has not criticized Bush enough and it drives many people on our side crazy. We would like to see him be more aggressive. Instead, the tone of his campaign is "optimism" and "let America be America again"... We would like to see an ad from the campaign where he accuses Bush of being a flip flopper. I don't think we'll get our wish. Only Moveon.org is doing the dirty laundry. 456113[/snapback] Moveon.org please give me a break. That website speaks the truth as much as OJ. And have urealized its very hard for presidents to actually 'flip-flop', because when u say bush flip flops youre talkin about him saying one thing and then not doing it (or doing the opposite) thats not what is referred to as 'flipflopping'. When kerry is accused of this its done by looking at his voting record in the senate. Where he'd vote for one bill and as his presidential hopes rose he changed his votes compltely. Voting record not spoken flipflops, even though kerry has also done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcyberlina Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Moveon.org please give me a break. That website speaks the truth as much as OJ. And have urealized its very hard for presidents to actually 'flip-flop', because when u say bush flip flops youre talkin about him saying one thing and then not doing it (or doing the opposite) thats not what is referred to as 'flipflopping'. When kerry is accused of this its done by looking at his voting record in the senate. Where he'd vote for one bill and as his presidential hopes rose he changed his votes compltely. Voting record not spoken flipflops, even though kerry has also done this. 456134[/snapback] Legacy, We've been through this road 1000 times. I am tired. Let's just agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Moveon.org please give me a break. That website speaks the truth as much as OJ. And have? urealized its very hard for presidents to actually 'flip-flop', because when u say bush flip flops youre talkin about him saying one thing and then not doing it (or doing the opposite) thats not what is referred to as 'flipflopping'. When kerry is accused of this its done by looking at his voting record in the senate. Where he'd vote for one bill and as his presidential hopes rose he changed his votes compltely. Voting record not spoken flipflops, even though kerry has also done this. 456134[/snapback] Legacy, We've been through this road 1000 times. I am tired. Let's just agree to disagree. 456262[/snapback] Yea but you keep saying it, the thing is no politician can ever keep every campaign promise they make (Where are clinton's middle class tax cuts?). Because they said it but didnt do it, doesnt mean its a flipflop, because you have to consider they may not have been able to do it b/c congress didnt let them etc. Congressmen and senators flip flop when they vote one way one day and when it suits thme better they vote differently. Thats just the fact of the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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