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Who has the best Bullpen in the National League?

 

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Padres (Hoffman, Otsuka, Linebrink, Neal) have a very good one. So do the Cards (Isringhausen, King, Kline, Tavarez, Calero, etc)), Marlins (Benitez, Mota, Seanez, etc) and Phils when healthy, which hasn't happened much (Wagner, Worrell, Madson, Cormier, Rodriguez).

 

I'd pick the Cards because of their 2 lefties and their good mix of styles.

The Cards are the best.

 

The fish would be if they had a lefty that wasn't perisho.

Not gonna try and be biased here.. Our bullpen has the 2nd best bullpen era and that's behind the Dodgers.. Our bullpen is better overall IMHO.. Here's the numbers.. Some are with other teams into their new teams but w/e!

 

Cardinals

Steve Kline: 2-2 2.00 ERA, .225 BAA, 13 Holds, 2/3 Saves

Julian Tavarez: 5-3 2.49 ERA, .245 BAA, 15 Holds, 3/4 Saves

Ray King: 4-2 2.66 ERA, .214 BAA, 20 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Jason Isringhausen: 3-2 2.70 ERA, .194 BAA, 0 Holds, 35/40 Saves

Kiko Calero: 1-0 3.31 ERA, .191 BAA, 6 Holds, 1/2 Saves

Cal Eldred: 3-0 3.63 ERA, .265 BAA, 7 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Jason Simontacchi: 3-0 3.95 ERA, .271 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Dodgers

Giovanni Carrara: 3-0 0.68 ERA, .217 BAA, 3 Holds, 1/2 Saves

Yhency Brazoban: 0-0 1.17 ERA, .185 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Eric Gagne: 4-3 2.36 ERA, .190 BAA, 0 Holds, 35/37 Saves

Wilson Alverez: 7-3 3.19 ERA, .224 BAA, 0 Holds, 1 Save

Duaner Sanchez: 3-1 3.38 ERA, .253 BAA, 4 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Wilson Alverez: 1-6 4.75 ERA, .301 BAA, 0 Holds, 2 Saves

Mike Venafro: 0-0 27.00 ERA, .500 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Padres

Scott Linebrink: 5-1 2.03 ERA, .221 BAA, 25 Holds, 0/5 Saves

Akinori Otsuka: 6-2 2.11 ERA, .199 BAA, 26 Holds, 2/7 Saves

Trevor Hoffman: 2-3 2.89 ERA, .230 BAA, 0 Holds, 31/35 Saves

Blaine Neal: 1-1 3.14 ERA, .257 BAA, 3 Holds, 0/2 Saves

Jay Witasick: 0-1 3.26 ERA, .242 BAA, 2 Holds, 1/3 Saves

Antonio Osuna: 1-1 4.12 ERA, .291 BAA, 1 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Ricky Stone: 2-2 5.02 ERA, .267 BAA, 1 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Marlins

Armando Benitez: 2-1 1.16 ERA, .151 BAA, 0 Holds, 36/39 Saves

Guillermo Mota: 9-5 2.01 ERA, .224 BAA, 19 Holds, 2/2 Saves

Rudy Seanez: 1-0 2.70 ERA, .147 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Matt Perisho: 4-2 4.28 ERA, .233 BAA, 7 Holds, 0/2 Saves

Billy Koch: 2-3 4.28 ERA, .255 BAA, 1 Holds, 8/11 Saves

Nate Bump: 2-3 4.34 ERA, .280 BAA, 4 Holds, 1/4 Saves

Chad Fox: 0-1 6.75 ERA, .225 BAA, 5 Holds, 0/2 Saves

Pads and Cards in a dead heat for first

 

Marlins are pretty close right now with 5 solid arms out of the pen now

 

Dodgers' pen was killed by DePodesta, they suck now and Gagne is getting overused and destroyed.

Talent: Phillies (until the injuries this month), Marlins (post-Mota,Seanez trades), White Sox

 

Performance: Cardinals, Rangers, Orioles (pre-Grimsley trade, Rodrigo Lopez to the rotation)

lets join forces w/ the Yankees and become:

The Marlees!

Or Yankins :lol

Talent: Phillies (until the injuries this month), Marlins (post-Mota,Seanez trades), White Sox

 

Performance: Cardinals, Rangers, Orioles (pre-Grimsley trade, Rodrigo Lopez to the rotation)

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The question was about NL teams.... but ya know... people have a hard time reading so I won't judge you too hard.... :thumbdown

In that case... replace the Rangers and Orioles with the Braves and Padres, and the White Sox with the Padres

I don't know, I wonder if we can get stats for each pen strictly after the trade deadline

 

I'd think ours was the best.

I don't know, I wonder if we can get stats for each pen strictly after the trade deadline

 

I'd think ours was the best.

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I'm not gonna go looking for those :mischief

 

I would think the Marlins would have the best pen (I'm not for sure) after the trade deadline but one would think the Best Bullpen should be from all year :thumbup

best 8th-9th inning duo in the NL (that is currently healthy)

 

:shifty

 

Mando Mota

In August...

 

Marlins - 2.38 ERA 1.056 WHIP (41.2 IP 29 H 11 ER 15 BB)

Cardinals - 2.81 ERA 1.075 WHIP (57.2 IP 43 H 18 ER 19 BB)

Dodgers - 2.69 ERA 1.123 WHIP (70.1 IP 58 H 21 ER 21 BB)

Braves - 3.06 ERA 1.232 WHIP (61.2 IP 55 H 21 ER 21 BB)

Padres - 4.14 ERA 1.330 WHIP (58.2 IP 63 H 27 ER 15 BB)

 

Phillies - Before August: 3.83 ERA 1.323 WHIP (334 IP 332 H 142 ER 110 BB) /// In August without Wagner and Madson: 4.87 ERA 1.454 WHIP (64.2 IP 71 H 35 ER 23 BB). From below-average to awful.

I think the best pen is the Marlins, there the best ilate with the best Closer and Setup man in the NL, plus with Seanez and koch in the middle not too bad, there is no lefty in the pen besides Perisho that can hurt.but if the pitcher goes 6 or 7 with mota and benitez in the 8th and 9th i dont see alot of times youd need a lefty.

 

Best depth in the pen Padres iwth Hoffman and Otsuka and Linebrink with sub-2.00 ERAs before Sunday. Also Witasick and Neal pitching well.

 

Most complete bullpen is the Cardinals with two great leftys in King who I think is the best Lefty in the league, and Kline who has been great against lefty, Also with Taverez setting up and an above average closer in Isringhausen, and i like the name Kiko Calero

 

The braves don't count its all Mazzone , once most of those pitchers leave Mazzone they're screwed

 

I think the best bullpen if healthy would be Philly, Awsome closer(Wagner)

A healthy Madsen is nasty, Worrell not a bad guy to have in the pen 40 saves in 2003, veteran. Felix Rodriguez before recently one of the better Setup man in the league. Cormier usualy a good lefty, Hernendez another vet guy who has a alot saves in his career knows how to get through an inning.

The Phillies weren't good before the injury bug hit them. They're the classic example of big names and no production.

Kiko Calero is the mizzan

 

It's probably the ethnicity :hat

Kiko Calero is the mizzan

 

It's probably the ethnicity :hat

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Virgin Islands?where?

Kiko Calero is the mizzan

 

It's probably the ethnicity? :hat

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Virgin Islands?where?

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Enrique "Kiko" Calero is from Santurce, Puerto Rico .. But I love the Kiko Calero name :hat

Calero himself is from Puerto Rico.....I think his family is from an island to the left, however.

Not gonna try and be biased here.. Our bullpen has the 2nd best bullpen era and that's behind the Dodgers.. Our bullpen is better overall IMHO.. Here's the numbers.. Some are with other teams into their new teams but w/e!

 

Cardinals

Steve Kline: 2-2 2.00 ERA, .225 BAA, 13 Holds, 2/3 Saves

Julian Tavarez: 5-3 2.49 ERA, .245 BAA, 15 Holds, 3/4 Saves

Ray King: 4-2 2.66 ERA, .214 BAA, 20 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Jason Isringhausen: 3-2 2.70 ERA, .194 BAA, 0 Holds, 35/40 Saves

Kiko Calero: 1-0 3.31 ERA, .191 BAA, 6 Holds, 1/2 Saves

Cal Eldred: 3-0 3.63 ERA, .265 BAA, 7 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Jason Simontacchi: 3-0 3.95 ERA, .271 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Dodgers

Giovanni Carrara: 3-0 0.68 ERA, .217 BAA, 3 Holds, 1/2 Saves

Yhency Brazoban: 0-0 1.17 ERA, .185 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Eric Gagne: 4-3 2.36 ERA, .190 BAA, 0 Holds, 35/37 Saves

Wilson Alverez: 7-3 3.19 ERA, .224 BAA, 0 Holds, 1 Save

Duaner Sanchez: 3-1 3.38 ERA, .253 BAA, 4 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Wilson Alverez: 1-6 4.75 ERA, .301 BAA, 0 Holds, 2 Saves

Mike Venafro: 0-0 27.00 ERA, .500 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Padres

Scott Linebrink: 5-1 2.03 ERA, .221 BAA, 25 Holds, 0/5 Saves

Akinori Otsuka: 6-2 2.11 ERA, .199 BAA, 26 Holds, 2/7 Saves

Trevor Hoffman: 2-3 2.89 ERA, .230 BAA, 0 Holds, 31/35 Saves

Blaine Neal: 1-1 3.14 ERA, .257 BAA, 3 Holds, 0/2 Saves

Jay Witasick: 0-1 3.26 ERA, .242 BAA, 2 Holds, 1/3 Saves

Antonio Osuna: 1-1 4.12 ERA, .291 BAA, 1 Holds, 0/1 Saves

Ricky Stone: 2-2 5.02 ERA, .267 BAA, 1 Holds, 0/0 Saves

 

Marlins

Armando Benitez: 2-1 1.16 ERA, .151 BAA, 0 Holds, 36/39 Saves

Guillermo Mota: 9-5 2.01 ERA, .224 BAA, 19 Holds, 2/2 Saves

Rudy Seanez: 1-0 2.70 ERA, .147 BAA, 0 Holds, 0/0 Saves

Matt Perisho: 4-2 4.28 ERA, .233 BAA, 7 Holds, 0/2 Saves

Billy Koch: 2-3 4.28 ERA, .255 BAA, 1 Holds, 8/11 Saves

Nate Bump: 2-3 4.34 ERA, .280 BAA, 4 Holds, 1/4 Saves

Chad Fox: 0-1 6.75 ERA, .225 BAA, 5 Holds, 0/2 Saves

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O yea that was not biased!

O yea that was not biased!

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I know your being sarcastic so say whatever but I truly believe we have one of the top 3, if not the best bullpen in the NL.. Doesnt take much to figure that one out! :whistle