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Buckley: Real baseball towns (almost) all here

By Steve Buckley

Sunday, October 24, 2004

 

BOSTON -- What you're about to read is rude, arrogant and the height of provinciality.

 

And if you happen to be a fan of, say, the Florida Marlins or Anaheim Angels, you're not going to enjoy this ride.

 

But here goes: The 2004 World Series is blessed in that the two representative cities -- Boston and St. Louis -- are pure baseball towns, rich with tradition and inhabited with fans who in any baseball discussion would never have to say, "Vanna, I'd like to buy a clue."

 

The Cardinals gave us the Gashouse Gang and Stan the Man and Dizzy Dean. The Red Sox provided The Green Monster, the Splendid Splinter and Spaceman Lee. St. Louis had Johnny "The Big Cat" Mize. Boston had Mo "The Hit Dog" Vaughn.

 

Utter the words "Boston Red Sox," and you're creating a Norman Rockwell painting of a Sunday afternoon at the ballpark. Utter the words "St. Louis Cardinals," and you can practically hear Harry Caray's play-by-play thundering throughout the Midwest on KMOX.

 

Let's be honest and admit that there are only three true baseball towns in America. There's Boston, there's St. Louis, and yes, absolutely, there's New York.

 

Chicago? Well .. no. It's a good baseball town, but there's a matter-of-factness about the denizens of Wrigley Field that's always bothered me, a feeling that simply having a nice, beer-soaked day out in the bleachers makes up for the fact that the Cubs haven't won the World Series since 1908. And nobody cares about the White Sox.

 

Detroit? Used to be a baeball town, and may be one again down the road. Philly? Phair weather. Atlanta? No doubt about it: Worst sports town in America. San Francisco? We'll give it props as an emerging baseball town, but it's not there yet. Toronto? Stopped caring after the strike in '94. Pittsburgh? Stopped caring before the strike.

 

And then there are the yahoo towns. The Florida Marlins? The 1997 World Series was an embarrassment. The fans didn't know when to cheer or when to boo, but they sure as heck knew when to leave: after the sixth inning.

 

The Anaheim Angels introduced Thunderstix to the American sports experience. That cancels out Anaheim as a baseball town, not that it ever had a chance in the first place.

 

By the time this World Series has ended, the ratings will reflect that Baseball America embraced the two teams involved. In other words, this won't be a Fall Classic in which only fans from Boston and St. Louis are interested. Bush and Kerry should do as well pulling in the uncommitted voters as this World Series will.

 

This is the third time the Red Sox and Cardinals have met in the World Series, with the two previous encounters going into the books as never-to-be-forgotten seven-game showdowns.

 

In 1946, the Cardinals emerged victorious in Game 7 on Enos "Country" Slaughter's mad dash around the bases on Harry Walker's hit to left-center, and in doing so created the myth that Johnny Pesky "held the ball."

 

And 1967? In Boston, it was the year of the Impossible Dream. In St. Louis, it was the year one of the great pitchers in history, Bob Gibson, had three complete-game wins for the victorious Cardinals.

 

Now it is 2004. Two great baseball towns, and the potential for more great history.

 

And you're welcome to watch, Atlanta.

 

You listening, Atlanta?

 

Um, hello? Atlanta?

 

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view...articleid=50622

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Buckley: Real baseball towns (almost) all here

By Steve Buckley

Sunday, October 24, 2004

 

BOSTON -- What you're about to read is rude, arrogant and the height of provinciality.

 

And if you happen to be a fan of, say, the Florida Marlins or Anaheim Angels, you're not going to enjoy this ride.

 

But here goes: The 2004 World Series is blessed in that the two representative cities -- Boston and St. Louis -- are pure baseball towns, rich with tradition and inhabited with fans who in any baseball discussion would never have to say, "Vanna, I'd like to buy a clue."

 

The Cardinals gave us the Gashouse Gang and Stan the Man and Dizzy Dean. The Red Sox provided The Green Monster, the Splendid Splinter and Spaceman Lee. St. Louis had Johnny "The Big Cat" Mize. Boston had Mo "The Hit Dog" Vaughn.

 

Utter the words "Boston Red Sox," and you're creating a Norman Rockwell painting of a Sunday afternoon at the ballpark. Utter the words "St. Louis Cardinals," and you can practically hear Harry Caray's play-by-play thundering throughout the Midwest on KMOX.

 

Let's be honest and admit that there are only three true baseball towns in America. There's Boston, there's St. Louis, and yes, absolutely, there's New York.

 

Chicago? Well .. no. It's a good baseball town, but there's a matter-of-factness about the denizens of Wrigley Field that's always bothered me, a feeling that simply having a nice, beer-soaked day out in the bleachers makes up for the fact that the Cubs haven't won the World Series since 1908. And nobody cares about the White Sox.

 

Detroit? Used to be a baeball town, and may be one again down the road. Philly? Phair weather. Atlanta? No doubt about it: Worst sports town in America. San Francisco? We'll give it props as an emerging baseball town, but it's not there yet. Toronto? Stopped caring after the strike in '94. Pittsburgh? Stopped caring before the strike.

 

And then there are the yahoo towns. The Florida Marlins? The 1997 World Series was an embarrassment. The fans didn't know when to cheer or when to boo, but they sure as heck knew when to leave: after the sixth inning.

 

The Anaheim Angels introduced Thunderstix to the American sports experience. That cancels out Anaheim as a baseball town, not that it ever had a chance in the first place.

 

By the time this World Series has ended, the ratings will reflect that Baseball America embraced the two teams involved. In other words, this won't be a Fall Classic in which only fans from Boston and St. Louis are interested. Bush and Kerry should do as well pulling in the uncommitted voters as this World Series will.

 

This is the third time the Red Sox and Cardinals have met in the World Series, with the two previous encounters going into the books as never-to-be-forgotten seven-game showdowns.

 

In 1946, the Cardinals emerged victorious in Game 7 on Enos "Country" Slaughter's mad dash around the bases on Harry Walker's hit to left-center, and in doing so created the myth that Johnny Pesky "held the ball."

 

And 1967? In Boston, it was the year of the Impossible Dream. In St. Louis, it was the year one of the great pitchers in history, Bob Gibson, had three complete-game wins for the victorious Cardinals.

 

Now it is 2004. Two great baseball towns, and the potential for more great history.

 

And you're welcome to watch, Atlanta.

 

You listening, Atlanta?

 

Um, hello? Atlanta?

 

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/sportsCo...articleid=81336

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So the Chicago isn't a baseball town because the Cubs haven't won since 1908?

 

Umm...the Red Sox haven't won since 1918....they can't be all that better

 

Wow...that was just flat out stupid

 

Yes the Marlins, and the Braves have horrible fan bases but to include Chicago as one of the better ones?

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The 1997 World Series was an embarrassment. The fans didn't know when to cheer or when to boo, but they sure as heck knew when to leave: after the sixth inning.

 

Give me a break, the Marlins fans have alwas been some of the best fans, at the stadium, we are intelligent, we DO know when to cheer and we always know whats going on...Just because we dont show up in pure masses, these franchises have been around for 100 years each, this guy is a loser and an A-Hole if you ask me

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The worst because it bashes the Marlins? Give me a break.

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Bashes the Marlins? You obviously didn't read the article because the writer flat out insulted every single Marlins fan and said that Marlins fans don't know jack s*** about baseball and that is just plain ignorant.

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actually, let me go into detail:

 

1. the fact that bostonians continue to whine like this when they have the best football team in a decade in their backyard is beyond me

 

2. the 1997 marlins did not buy a world series. they had the 5th highest payroll in baseball. the 2004 red sox have the 2nd-highest payroll in baseball.

 

3. so you beat the yankees every hundred years. whoopty-doo.

 

4. ever heard of giants-dodgers?

 

5. fine, fans of expansion teams like the marlins, angels etc are easy targets. but writing off the fans of chicago?

 

6. i was at game 1 of the 1997 world series. and NOBODY left at the sixth inning.

 

7. no team in the universe currently has more know-nothing bandwagon fans than red sox nation.

 

8. if the red sox had made it to the world series in 2003, the marlins would have beaten them in five. just thought i'd get that in there.

 

9. he whines about the 1997 world series, but game 1 last night looked exactly like the worst games from that series. let's hope one of these teams finds some pitching this week, please

 

10. if red sox fans are so knowledgeable, how come they blame everything on a dead guy?

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Lets face it South Florida is not a baseball town. South florida evolves around the Dolphins, even in their current state. Maybe over time but not right now.

 

I love it... didnt see it coming but now that its in the past It doesnt surprise me. at least he admits what a motherf***er he is.

 

What you're about to read is rude, arrogant and the height of provinciality.

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