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Delgado = awesome offseason... stop now and I'll be more happy than I've ever been during an offseason.

 

 

With that being said... we could use a LH specialist because there are a lot of LH hiters in the NL East.. except on the Braves.. Philly (Thome, Abreu, Utley, Lofton), Nationals (Wilkerson, N. Johnson, Chavez, Schneider) and the Mets (Floyd, Meintkevizc).

 

 

Anyway, I hope we can deal Stokes/Encarnacion for a top-notch LH releiver (BJ Ryan?)... if no decent options are available, I'd hope we could land a quality '6th' starter/long relief man that can give us good starts in case Beckett/Burnett get injured again.

 

Thoughts?

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Delgado = awesome offseason... stop now and I'll be more happy than I've ever been during an offseason.

 

 

With that being said... we could use a LH specialist because there are a lot of LH hiters in the NL East.. except on the Braves.. Philly (Thome, Abreu, Utley, Lofton), Nationals (Wilkerson, N. Johnson, Chavez, Schneider) and the Mets (Floyd, Meintkevizc).

 

 

Anyway, I hope we can deal Stokes/Encarnacion for a top-notch LH releiver (BJ Ryan?)... if no decent options are available, I'd hope we could land a quality '6th' starter/long relief man that can give us good starts in case Beckett/Burnett get injured again.

 

Thoughts?

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His name is Matt Perisho...Situational specialist

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notice the word top notch

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I don't know the stats, but I think his BAA is like .200 against lefties and he has a great ERA against lefties...

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Nonetheless, it's a need... One's not enough.. especially if the one is someone who likes to give up the long ball. Braves have Tom Martin/Gabe White, Phillies have Wagner/Cormier, Nationals have Eischen/Horgan.

 

 

Anyway, I think a '6th' starter is more important.. If Beckett or Burnett go down, we're in the same position as last year... when we had to use Bump, or whoever, and he would end up only giving us 2 or 3 innings.

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notice the word top notch

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I don't know the stats, but I think his BAA is like .200 against lefties and he has a great ERA against lefties...

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Nonetheless, it's a need... One's not enough.. especially if the one is someone who likes to give up the long ball. Braves have Tom Martin/Gabe White, Phillies have Wagner/Cormier, Nationals have Eischen/Horgan.

 

 

Anyway, I think a '6th' starter is more important.. If Beckett or Burnett go down, we're in the same position as last year... when we had to use Bump, or whoever, and he would end up only giving us 2 or 3 innings.

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I agree with that sentiment. I don't even have complete faith in Valdez...His ERA tends to skyrocket when he...er...pitches

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If the Marlins got BJ Ryan that would almost guarantee a playoff spot.? It would be unbelievable.? I dont think the O's would trade him.? What other LHP relievers out there make your "toes tingles".? BJ Ryan is about all I know, can anyone list them?

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Ryan is in a league of his own vs. LHP: 0.56 WHIP, .097 BAA

 

Steve Kline is one but he was just signed as a FA this offseason: 0.85 WHIP, .143 BAA

 

Arthur Rhodes is another top LH RP (bad as a closer) but was just traded to the Indians.

 

Mike Gonzalez, Pittsburgh, is a talented young LH pitcher.. I seriously doubt Pitt would move him.

 

Mike Myers but he just signed with the Cards.. Mike Remlinger, cubs aren't moving him.. Guardado, too expensive.. Merker just signed with the Cards.. Damaso Marte might be expendable but the Sox would ask for Luis Castillo in return (no thankyou).

 

BJ Ryan is the only guy that I've heard thats been shopped around.. but I don't know how heavily anymore since Julio is on the block. It was reported that TB wanted Ryan in return for anything involving Huff so take that fwiw.

 

 

 

Anyway... I think a '6th starter' might be of more importance now that i think about it.

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I think we should sign someone off the market If possible...and I think trading Encarnacion would be a BIG mistake right now. Let him battle out with Conine for the starting spot...why not?

 

And our biggest ? is Mota...

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I think the biggest question mark is Billy. For 12 years, he hasn't aged a day.

 

And recently, he's been losing those jet-ski races. I think someone (hint hint) got off the 'roids just in time for testing...

 

But will he still be effective without them?

 

:mischief2

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Because Juan Encarnacion can hit the offspeed pitches with the best of them. He sees them extremely well. He has a great arm and could play in RF and our Defense would be improved by quite a bit. Juan did well for us the 03 seasons and and against the Giants. A lot of people got mad that he complained about not playing but that means he WANTS to play. Why not let him compete for a starting spot? Why trade him?

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There's no room in the bullpen as it is. Mota, Spooney, Alfonseca, Perisho, Jones and Reidling are all signed to major league contracts.

 

Unless you're willing to trade Mota, Spooney or Perisho before May, we're going to have to do with Logan Kensing, Nate Bump, Trevor Hutchinson, Justin Wayne and Frank Castillo doing the spot-starting.

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I really hope that we can get something in return for Encarnacion because I dont want $4 million sitting on the bench, a few prospects or even just some cash would be fine. Conine has proved that he can be a starter and if anything we can give Aguila some great chances to get some playing time, he performed pretty well down the stretch last season.

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Do we still have aaron small? Hes decent as a Long reliever. I think perisho if only used against lefties is very useful, and aside from that dont we have any righties that pitch well against lefties? Either way theres no room for enc, and hes too expensive. You dont want to create an unfavorable situatio nwhere you have 2 starters that can produce not getting enoguh palying time. Remmeber thast niner had a s low start but still hit around 270 with 83 RBIs

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Do we still have aaron small? Hes decent as a Long reliever. I think perisho if only used against lefties is very useful, and aside from that dont we have any righties that pitch well against lefties? Either way theres no room for enc, and hes too expensive. You dont want to create an unfavorable situatio nwhere you have 2 starters that can produce not getting enoguh palying time. Remmeber thast niner had a s low start but still hit around 270 with 83 RBIs

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No, Small is gone

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There's no room in the bullpen as it is. Mota, Spooney, Alfonseca, Perisho, Jones and Reidling are all signed to major league contracts.

 

Unless you're willing to trade Mota, Spooney or Perisho before May, we're going to have to do with Logan Kensing, Nate Bump, Trevor Hutchinson, Justin Wayne and Frank Castillo doing the spot-starting.

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Couldn't we find someone to take Bumps spot in the bullpen?

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