Posted April 23, 200519 yr I almost fell out of my seat when I read this. Btw for those of you who dont know, Barry Goldwater is considered the father of modern conservatism. However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of 'conservatism.' ? ? -- Sen. Barry Goldwater ?
April 23, 200519 yr I'm not suprised that a neo-lib would be suprised, and I'm not suprised that I'm not suprised :lol conservative != religious nut religious nut != conservative
April 23, 200519 yr Author I'm not suprised that a neo-lib would be suprised, and I'm not suprised that I'm not suprised :lol conservative != religious nut religious nut != conservative 752116[/snapback] Ive spoken with legacy on the distinction between the traditional conservative and the religious nuts. I want to make sure those who defend DeLay and Frist and still call themselves conservative are aware of this. What better way to make them realize how much their party today has deviated from the founding principles right? How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec?
April 23, 200519 yr How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec? What quotes would those be and where might I find them? I've searched every post I've ever made - none are in threads regarding social security, and no posts mention social security even tangentially. Up your meds dude :lol
April 23, 200519 yr Author How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec? What quotes would those be and where might I find them? I've searched every post I've ever made - none are in threads regarding social security, and no posts mention social security even tangentially. Up your meds dude :lol 752212[/snapback] Oh brother tonyi. Give up the charade. Nobody buys it. How is it different from what you said about FDR.
April 23, 200519 yr How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec? What quotes would those be and where might I find them? I've searched every post I've ever made - none are in threads regarding social security, and no posts mention social security even tangentially. Up your meds dude :lol 752212[/snapback] Oh brother tonyi. Give up the charade. Nobody buys it. How is it different from what you said about FDR. 752232[/snapback] F_M give it up already. He is "obviously" not tonyi. Just because he acts like tonyi, has the same IP as tonyi, spams the bull pen like tonyi, finds really obscure things to post like tonyi, argues with the same people like tonyi...dont you get it F_M, its all coincidence. ITS NOT TONYI...
April 23, 200519 yr Author How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec? What quotes would those be and where might I find them? I've searched every post I've ever made - none are in threads regarding social security, and no posts mention social security even tangentially. Up your meds dude :lol 752212[/snapback] Oh brother tonyi. Give up the charade. Nobody buys it. How is it different from what you said about FDR. 752232[/snapback] F_M give it up already. He is "obviously" not tonyi. Just because he acts like tonyi, has the same IP as tonyi, spams the bull pen like tonyi, finds really obscure things to post like tonyi, argues with the same people like tonyi...dont you get it F_M, its all coincidence. ITS NOT TONYI... 752243[/snapback] :lol :lol Youre right.... but what if they were seperated twins at birth. :whistle
April 23, 200519 yr :lol :lol Youre right.... but what if they were seperated twins at birth. :whistle 752246[/snapback] God NO! :o LMAO I think you may be on to something here
April 23, 200519 yr How is this different from when you brought up FDR quotes to defend Bush on soc sec? What quotes would those be and where might I find them? I've searched every post I've ever made - none are in threads regarding social security, and no posts mention social security even tangentially. Up your meds dude :lol 752212[/snapback] Oh brother tonyi. Give up the charade. Nobody buys it. How is it different from what you said about FDR. 752232[/snapback] F_M give it up already. He is "obviously" not tonyi. Just because he acts like tonyi, has the same IP as tonyi, spams the bull pen like tonyi, finds really obscure things to post like tonyi, argues with the same people like tonyi...dont you get it F_M, its all coincidence. ITS NOT TONYI... 752243[/snapback] haha. Made me fall out of my chair. It's gettin pretty damned pathetic at this point, but I guess people gotta get their kicks somehow. :mischief2
April 24, 200519 yr I'm posting from europe. My ISP is http://www.hosteurope.de I have no idea what the f*** you dorks are prattling on about.
April 24, 200519 yr I'm posting from europe. My ISP is http://www.hosteurope.de I have no idea what the f*** you dorks are prattling on about. 752975[/snapback] Well lesse... Tonyi's other favorite baseball team was the Angels. Under gender it said not telling. Miguel Cabrera was his favorite player. He spammed the bullpen forum. He posts in the same manner as you. The sig is the same manner as you. Your condesceding view on all the other posters is the same as Tonyi. Oh well, I guess there is no Tonyi. Only its Tonyi with a different name now. To prevent the stalkers from getting to you.
April 24, 200519 yr I'm posting from europe. My ISP is http://www.hosteurope.de I have no idea what the f*** you dorks are prattling on about. 752975[/snapback] Well lesse... Tonyi's other favorite baseball team was the Angels. That's the default you twit. Oh my, a condescending manner - I must be Ann Coulter! :lol Trust me, there's millions of people in the world who have little respect for ignorant presumptive dolts. Gee, a sig with an image - you have one of those too. My, my. :lol Very definitive. Do you work for the CIA producing terrorist intel?
April 24, 200519 yr I'm posting from europe.? My ISP is? http://www.hosteurope.de I have no idea what the f*** you dorks are prattling on about. 752975[/snapback] Well lesse... Tonyi's other favorite baseball team was the Angels. That's the default you twit. Oh my, a condescending manner - I must be Ann Coulter! :lol Trust me, there's millions of people in the world who have little respect for ignorant presumptive dolts. Gee, a sig with an image - you have one of those too. My, my. :lol Very definitive. Do you work for the CIA producing terrorist intel? 753097[/snapback] And Tonyi hated me as well. More scientific proof.
April 24, 200519 yr And Tonyi hated me as well. More scientific proof. I don't hate you, I just don't respect your opinion.
April 24, 200519 yr Author And Tonyi hated me as well. More scientific proof. I don't hate you, I just don't respect your opinion. 753121[/snapback] Sounds like something tonyi would say.
April 24, 200519 yr If I advocated necrophilia and deviant dwarf sex you'd say that was something this tonyi person would say :lol
April 25, 200519 yr If I advocated necrophilia and deviant dwarf sex you'd say that was something this tonyi person would say :lol 753154[/snapback] If your Not Tonyi then prove it by giving me a blow job.
April 25, 200519 yr I'm not deviant - but I imagine PhishPhan could oblige :lol 754396[/snapback] Not really. Like I said, just because I am homosexual in your fantasies for you doesn't make it true in real life. Sorry its just a rough fact of life. Don't worry though, maybe you'll find yourself a cute "housemate" soon enough.
April 25, 200519 yr Just because you might suck a c**k doesn't make you queer. Any prison cherry will tell you that.
April 25, 200519 yr Just because you might suck a c**k doesn't make you queer. 754429[/snapback] You keep telling yourself that, maybe you will convince yourself of that one day.
April 25, 200519 yr Author If I advocated necrophilia and deviant dwarf sex you'd say that was something this tonyi person would say :lol 753154[/snapback] Jesus tonyi, youve got some issues. Dwarf sex? :plain
