Ricky Williams .. back again?

[Foladar]

Jason Cole on SUN Sports 4 minutes ago just said: "Look, the people I have talked too have told me that he is DEFINATELY coming back in July...he will serve his 4 game suspension and will be in uniform...the question is if he will be an effective player again."

 

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showthread.php?t=79597

 

Dolphins coach Nick Saban said he has had another conversation with erstwhile running back Ricky Williams recently and that Williams is "very, very interested" in returning to the team.

 

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/11690259.htm (requires registration)

[marlinsinsider]

let him suit up.. hopefully if he does we can get something out of him, maybe he'll produce and we can get someone to take him and get something in return, I wonder how he'd be accepted by the fans and his teammates.

[Flamarlins3]

I hope he dies

 

He better not ever put on a Miami Dolphin uniform again

[Fish Tank Frenzy]

If he scores TD's all will be forgiven. Think of it this way. If Ricky doesnt quit and he played and the Dolphins went 8-8 there would be a good chance that Wanny would still be coach. Ricky essentially killed Wanny as head coach of the Dolphins. Maybe we should thank Ricky instead of hate him.

 

Ronnie Brown - Ricky Williams backfield would give the Dolphins the best running game by far.

[Guest Fritz]

If he scores TD's all will be forgiven. Think of it this way. If Ricky doesnt quit and he played and the Dolphins went 8-8 there would be a good chance that Wanny would still be coach. Ricky essentially killed Wanny as head coach of the Dolphins. Maybe we should thank Ricky instead of hate him.

 

Ronnie Brown - Ricky Williams backfield would give the Dolphins the best running game by far.

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I agree, except for that last comment. I'd have to say that San Diego's backfield is pretty outrageous.

 

At any rate, if Ricky comes back and allows Ronnie to not carry the full burden, it'd be quite nice. If Ricky gives us maybe 120 carries this year and we give about 250-270 to Ronnie, we'll be in good shape. Then again, since Ricky isn't in football shape, he won't be nearly as effective, but 75% of 2002 Ricky is still better than 90% of the NFL's RBs.

[Dodge]

He needs to just stay away.

[minus]

He needs to just stay away.

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I agree...

[Flying_Mollusk]

When did two running back backfields become popular in the league? Usually you get a productive second option out of a backup, like the one in SD, with a good o-line. Even with that, the primary load is on the primary guy. Travis Minor is more than a capable backup. Its just not worth the risk of dealing with Ricky to produce 400 yards off the bench when you can get that from a lot of players.

 

The only role Ricky Williams should play on this team is as trade bait. If Ronnie Brown was worth the #2 pick, it wasnt to share the backfield with the pothead. Find a way to get Ricky to Oakland.

[TSwift25]

Way to go Saban, you've made me hate you even more.

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When did two running back backfields become popular in the league? Usually you get a productive second option out of a backup, like the one in SD, with a good o-line. Even with that, the primary load is on the primary guy. Travis Minor is more than a capable backup. Its just not worth the risk of dealing with Ricky to produce 400 yards off the bench when you can get that from a lot of players.

 

The only role Ricky Williams should play on this team is as trade bait. If Ronnie Brown was worth the #2 pick, it wasnt to share the backfield with the pothead. Find a way to get Ricky to Oakland.

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Minor is not even the primary backup.The backup is Lamar Gordon and there just not enough room in the backfield with Ricky into mix.

 

Brown

Gordon

Morris

Minor

 

and Ricky? Don't waste our time Saban by bringing Ricky back.

[Foladar]

Before you Dolphins fans, fantasy geeks and hemp manufacturers get all hot and bothered over Ricky Williams' possible return to the NFL, here's a number you might want to consider: 195.

 

That's how much Williams currently weighs, 40 pounds less than his playing weight in Miami, before the positive drug test, the stunning retirement, the overseas trips, the stint in the Indian healing institute and the servitude of a swami -- but we're getting ahead of ourselves.

 

In an instant-messaging session with Williams on Wednesday, I asked the former All-Pro halfback whether he planned to play football again, and his answer was, "I honestly do not know."

 

He conceded that he'd had numerous telephone conversations with Miami coach Nick Saban, who called Williams' mother to track down the phone number at the small house the erstwhile runner and ayurveda student rents in Nevada City, an artsy town in the Sierra foothills of Northern California. Williams has a favorable impression of the new Dolphins boss, referring to him as "smart" and "interesting" and comparing him to Saban's friend Bill Belichick.

 

Williams, as published reports suggest, has gotten the distinct impression he'd be welcomed back by Saban if he were to decide to play in 2005, even though the Dolphins used the second overall pick in the draft on former Auburn running back Ronnie Brown. In Williams' eyes, he can offer Miami a pair of very productive seasons before stepping aside to make room for Brown and reverting to retirement.

 

"I've still got 4,000 yards left in me," Williams wrote, meaning two years at 2,000 per. "Who is gonna turn that down?"

 

Obviously, it's not that simple. There's the weight issue, along with the marijuana factor. Williams would likely face a four-game suspension upon ending his retirement, and he'd either have to alter his recreational habits or get something a hell of a lot more effective at beating drug tests than Onterrio Smith's "The Original Whizzinator."

 

There's also the question of how Williams would be received by his teammates, many of whom felt he abandoned them when he abruptly retired just before the start of training camp last year. He accepts the fact that there will be locker-room backlash but doesn't think it's anything he can't handle -- especially once he reminds them of his toughness during games. Certainly, most fans of the team are bitter in the wake of the disaster that was 2004. Yet something tells me that both groups, now that time has passed, might cut Williams some slack. So much has happened since he left -- Dave Wannstedt's resignation, Saban's coronation, the jettisoning of Jay Fielder, the drafting of Brown -- that it's almost as if Williams would be returning to a different franchise.

 

Besides, as Williams correctly pointed out, on-field heroics can cover up a lot of sins. Even among the most ardent Ricky bashers, the first time he takes a handoff, bursts through the line of scrimmage, bounces off a linebacker and outraces everyone to the end zone, it will be greeted with unabashed cheers.

 

To put it another way: The same guys yelling, "You suck, pothead!" will then be begging, "Please, Mr. Williams, will you sign my Zig-Zags?"

 

Williams finds it odd that so many people seem to chastise him more than they do those players who've tested positive for steroids, and he is heartened that he has achieved some of the clarity he sought when he bolted 10 months ago. "It took me almost a year to figure out the reason for quitting," he wrote. "The analogy I came up with was that I was renting my life. I needed to go out and make a down payment so I would stop wasting money."

 

 

 

SI

[TSwift25]

Williams finds it odd that so many people seem to chastise him more than they do those players who've tested positive for steroids

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At least they were trying to help the team Ricky...when's the last time you thought about that?

[marlinsinsider]

Wow a lot of ya'll hold grudges. I hated ricky for what he did, just walking out on not only his fans but his teammates.

 

With Ricky our offense is a whole lot better. If you're a dolphins fan Ricky Williams in the back field and possibly being the top 5 in rushing is a good thing.

 

It'll help out Boston and chambers considerably and hopefully help AJ.

 

What happened has happened, lets get over it. He is basically playing to pay back the dolphins for what he owes them. If and when he does return he will go out there and bust his ass and maybe he will have some trade value in the off season, that's if we choose to get rid of him or keep him.

 

I feel the Dolphins are better with him than without him. No matter how much I hated him I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to. If he helps us win then I am all for it

[Admin]

I feel the Dolphins are better with him than without him. No matter how much I hated him I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to. If he helps us win then I am all for it

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Hold on, we're not real Dolphins fans if we don't support a guy who walked out on the team at just the perfect time to destroy their season? I ain't gonna forgive and forget -- question how much of a Dolphins fan I am because of that all you want. I don't see any reason Ricky Williams should ever be permitted to wear a Dolphins jersey again nor do I see why you question team loyalty from fans over that. That's ignorant.

[marlinsinsider]

I feel the Dolphins are better with him than without him.? No matter how much I hated him? I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to. If he helps us win then I am all for it

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Hold on, we're not real Dolphins fans if we don't support a guy who walked out on the team at just the perfect time to destroy their season? I ain't gonna forgive and forget -- question how much of a Dolphins fan I am because of that all you want. I don't see any reason Ricky Williams should ever be permitted to wear a Dolphins jersey again nor do I see why you question team loyalty from fans over that. That's ignorant.

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So evidentally Admin doesnt believe in whatever helps a team win then I'm all for it. You can't deny ( well you could ) but I hope you don't Deny that Ricky in the backfield could and would make this offense better.

 

If I made it sound like I was questioning how much of a dolphin fan you are, then I am sorry, that wasn't my intention.

 

All I am saying is that Dolphin fans want this team to win. I hated ricky like I said but I knoiw he's good at what he does and that's Rushing the football. I want to win. I dont want them to lose, seriously I don't, I hate when the dolphins lose.

 

You dont have to cheer him on or wear his jersey, like I will. But lets get real, with him in the backfield this team is better.

[Admin]

I feel the Dolphins are better with him than without him. No matter how much I hated him I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to. If he helps us win then I am all for it

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You dont have to cheer him on or wear his jersey, like I will. But lets get real, with him in the backfield this team is better.

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What's with the blatent flip-flopping?

 

If I made it sound like I was questioning how much of a dolphin fan you are, then I am sorry, that wasn't my intention.

 

Uhm, what else could you have meant by:

 

I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to.

[Mabdul Doobakus]

I'll take him back, but he won't exactly be my favorite player. If he comes back, plays hard, and his teammates accept him, then I figure I can accept him too.

 

I don't how he'll handle being the center of a three ring circus everywhere he goes, though. He'll never hear the end of it, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him up and quit again pretty quickly. So, I wouldn't base the team around his quitting ass, but if he can help make the Dolphins worth watching again, and if he can make my Sundays more interesting than just rooting for my fantasy team, then I say lets give it a shot.

 

Also, I want the Ricky we saw when he first got here. Not that bulls*** "I'm gonna be the next Barry Sanders and run around everyone" Ricky we saw in 2004. Cause that Ricky kinda sucked.

[floridafan13]

f*** Ricky Williams!!

[marlinsinsider]

I feel the Dolphins are better with him than without him.? No matter how much I hated him? I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to. If he helps us win then I am all for it

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You dont have to cheer him on or wear his jersey, like I will. But lets get real, with him in the backfield this team is better.

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What's with the blatent flip-flopping?

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There is no flip flopping.. I said you don't have to cheer or wear his jersey, But I will (Like I will) eerf READ.. where was I flip flopping? looks to me someone cant comprehend.

[Izzie]

It's a messy situation. I mean it's intriguing, Ricky is still solid at the least but there's a lot of questions to keep in mind. How will the team chemistry hold up? Do you forgive and forget to improve the team? Most importantly however, who's to say Ricky won't pull something again if he does rejoin?

[Admin]

There is no flip flopping.. I said you don't have to cheer or wear his jersey, But I will (Like I will) eerf READ.. where was I flip flopping? looks to me someone cant comprehend.

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I can comprehend pretty easily smartass.

 

You said 'I wear his jersey and cheer him on when he touches the ball. " "And if you're a Dolphins fan you will to" and then "You dont have to cheer him on or wear his jersey, like I will." to be a Dolphins fan.

 

Which is a contradiction. Can you comprehend that?

[Nugget]

Admin, you couldn't comprehend if comprehension poured out of your ass!

[Ns2003]

:lol

[Guest Fritz]

It's a messy situation. I mean it's intriguing, Ricky is still solid at the least but there's a lot of questions to keep in mind. How will the team chemistry hold up? Do you forgive and forget to improve the team? Most importantly however, who's to say Ricky won't pull something again if he does rejoin?

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H. Wayne because he pays the checks.

[Guest marlins02]

f***

 

him