Posted May 22, 200519 yr comment_498211 Ask me this question when he goes on the DL and I would say of course he gets his job back... Right now, I dunno.. You here the name Todd Jones and you don't think he should be the closer of a team contending for a championship... but Jones has done pretty well out there. He has more heat then I thought he had (I saw 94 today?)... he has a nice tailing fastball/cut fastball combination and has a pretty good over the top curve. He's given up a few hits here and there and scared us once or twice but he hasn't blown any saves since he got the job. He's been a closer before and he has the closer's mentality... something we're not quite sure if Guillermo has. If Jones is doing a good job as the closer and Mota is known for being a top of the line set up guy, I say why mess with a good thing? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498212 I wouldn't be surprised to see Mota start off as the set up guy for a few games to see how he does. And it sure doesn't hurt to have two guys with closer mentality to pitch the 8th and 9th, or switch off when they get multiple games in a row to close. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498213 I wouldn't be surprised to see Mota start off as the set up guy for a few games to see how he does. And it sure doesn't hurt to have two guys with closer mentality to pitch the 8th and 9th, or switch off when they get multiple games in a row to close. 779536[/snapback] I agree. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498214 I wouldn't be surprised to see Mota start off as the set up guy for a few games to see how he does. And it sure doesn't hurt to have two guys with closer mentality to pitch the 8th and 9th, or switch off when they get multiple games in a row to close. 779536[/snapback] I agree. 779537[/snapback] Remember those two guys on LA that had the closer mentality, anyways needless to say i think they converted like 84 times in a row, works for me. Guilermo Mota is just as much apart of Gagne's streak as Gagne. i really like him in the setup role. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498215 I say Mota should set up Jones for as long as it works. Put Mota in the tricky spots in the 7th or 8th where he has thrived in his career and leave Jones in the 9th. Remember, closing out the 9th isn't always as tough as pitching the 7th and 8th. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498216 good question Iowa.... will be interesting to see what Jack does initially. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498217 I feel fine with Jones out there. We should not expect perfection, and he will blow some games. But the closer mentality is there. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498218 Who?............TODD JONES! Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498219 Todd Jones earned the job, sorry Mota, that's life. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498220 The closer is Mota. Just as Lowell is our 3B, not Dillon and Castillo is our 2B, not Easley. If Mota fails I believe Jones will take over quickly, but Mota wants to be a closer and the Marlins want Mota to be a closer. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498221 The way things are going with TODD JONES, he'll stay as closer. :thumbup Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498222 Todd Jones career saves: 195 Guillermo Mota career save: 5 Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498223 Mota should go back to being the SU Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498224 haha. mota should be the closer. Actually it would hurt his value during arbitration if he didn't have all those saves. And he might be better pitching the 7th and 8th like he did in LA. I don't like exclusive use of your ace reliever only in the 9th with a lead anyway. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498225 Might be for the best. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498226 Since Jones has been performing well in the closer position, and since Mota has a lot more experience as a reliever, my guess, and I wouldn't be suprised to see Mota come back and be a reliever. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498227 Todd Jones career saves: 195 Guillermo Mota career save: 5 779584[/snapback] Jeff Conine career homeruns: 195 Miguel Cabrera career homeruns: 53 Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498228 Todd Jones career saves: 195 Guillermo Mota career save: 5 779584[/snapback] Jeff Conine career homeruns: 195 Miguel Cabrera career homeruns: 53 780005[/snapback] Jeff Conine career AB's : 5,921 Miguel Cabrera career AB's: 1,061 Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498229 Todd Jones career saves: 195 Guillermo Mota career save: 5 779584[/snapback] Jeff Conine career homeruns: 195 Miguel Cabrera career homeruns: 53 780005[/snapback] Jeff Conine career AB's : 5,921 Miguel Cabrera career AB's: 1,061 780013[/snapback] and? what the hell are you trying to prove? Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498230 Todd Jones career saves: 195 Guillermo Mota career save: 5 779584[/snapback] Jeff Conine career homeruns: 195 Miguel Cabrera career homeruns: 53 780005[/snapback] Jeff Conine career AB's : 5,921 Miguel Cabrera career AB's: 1,061 780013[/snapback] and? what the hell are you trying to prove? 780014[/snapback] The reason why Jeff has more HR's is because he has had a lot more opportunities. Just like Jones has a lot more saves than Mota because he has had a lot more opportunities. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 22, 200519 yr comment_498231 Well, if you extrapolate Cabrera's HRs to 5,921 ABs you get 296 HRs. So who would you rather have at the plate down 3 runs, 2 outs bottom of the 9th with bases loaded? Jones has saved 77% of his opportunities. Mota 39%. Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 200519 yr comment_498232 That is a flawed statistic, PBMarlin. Up until this year, Mota has only been given opportunities to blow saves (leads), not save them. Edit: Once you add holds, which are 'saves' for middle relievers, Mota gains the upper hand. 74 of 85, or 87% to Jones' 292 of 348, 84% Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 200519 yr comment_498233 Who?............TODD JONES! 779563[/snapback] :lol :lol :lol :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 200519 yr comment_498234 Who?............TODD JONES! 779563[/snapback] :lol :lol :lol :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy 780125[/snapback] Finally someone got it :thumbup Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
May 23, 200519 yr comment_498235 Who?............TODD JONES! 779563[/snapback] :lol :lol :lol :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy 780125[/snapback] Finally someone got it :thumbup 780130[/snapback] Yup, listening to the CD now... :thumbup Link to comment https://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/28957-is-mota-guaranteed-his-job-back/?&do=findComment&comment=498235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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