Jiggy Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 link to draft crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabdul Doobakus Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 OOOO!!! Let's make predictions! I say Charlotte gets the first pick, Atlanta goes second, New York goes third. In fact, you can book it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggy Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 I'll be happy if Toronto can land a top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 With NY way down at 8, there's no big market team for them to fix the lottery for, so who knows what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckeroo Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Utah winning it would be fairly convenient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hopefully the Magic can win another one. :mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabdul Doobakus Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Man, I got some bad information... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 1 Milwaukee 30-52 2 Atlanta 13-69 3 Portland 27-55 4 New Orleans 18-64 5 Charlotte 18-64 6 Utah 26-56 7 Toronto 33-49 8 New York 33-49 9 LA Lakers 34-48 10 Golden State 34-48 11 Orlando 36-46 12 LA Clippers 37-45 13 Charlotte (from Cleveland via Phoenix) 18-64 14 Minnesota 44-38 15 New Jersey 42-40 16 Toronto (from Philadelphia via Denver and New Jersey) 33-49 17 Indiana 44-38 18 Boston 45-37 19 Memphis 45-37 20 Denver (from Washington via Orlando) 49-33 21 Phoenix (from Chicago) 62-20 22 Denver 49-33 23 Sacramento 50-32 24 Houston 51-31 25 Seattle 52-30 26 Detroit 54-28 27 Utah (from Dallas) 26-56 28 San Antonio 59-23 29 Miami 59-23 30 New York (from Phoenix via San Antonio) 33-49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 So... Luol Deng for a 21st overall pick and some dumbass from Clown College.... works for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Charlotte is in a nice spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Atlanta was 13-69? Good lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPosey Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fan Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 If you do not have ESPN Insider and want to know who Chad Ford has currently in the early mock for your team, PM me and let me know. It would be too long and messy to copy and paste all teams because of the format they used to do it. Here is the Heats though: 29. MIAMI HEAT Jarrett Jack GEORGIA TECH | JUNIOR | POINT GUARD HEIGHT: 6-3 | WEIGHT: 200 | AGE: 21 Jack could be off the board in the mid-first round, but it's conceivable that he slips all the way to the end of the round. He's a very good point guard prospect who just needs to cut down on his turnovers. With Damon Jones possibly hitting free agency this summer, Jack would be a great fit in Miami. And Jack's Scouting Report: Draft Projection: Mid-teens to mid-20s Notes: A big-time high school prospect who averaged 33 ppg at Mount Zion Christian Academy as a junior -- the same place that produced Tracy McGrady. A cousin of former Duke point guard Chris Duhon. Positives: Jack really knows how to run a team. He has good size and nice court vision, as well as an NBA body and athleticism. He's an excellent rebounder for a point guard. He's also a good defender who collects a decent number of steals. He's a leader on the floor and rarely takes a bad shot. Plays with great competitive fire. Negatives: Jack had another up-and-down year. That's not really the image you want to project if you're a point guard. Scouts worry that he plays a little out of control at times. His 3.5 turnovers per game are fairly high for such a natural point. His 3-point shooting has improved, but scouts question whether he has the range to hit the shot in the pros. He struggles shooting off the dribble. Summary: Jack is all over the board as far as his draft stock goes. Some have him as a mid-first round selection. Most, however, have him ranked in the mid-to-high 20s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsContinueTo ShowDomi Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. 782827[/snapback] Is a big man really supposed to shoot jumpers? Ill take a bruising big man who can get nasty down low and hit the boards then a 7 footer who floats on the wings and shoots 80% from the free throw line. (And no, Dirk was not drafted to be a center). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 My Bobcats got screwed. I'm hoping they will trade up and get Marvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. 782827[/snapback] Is a big man really supposed to shoot jumpers? Ill take a bruising big man who can get nasty down low and hit the boards then a 7 footer who floats on the wings and shoots 80% from the free throw line. (And no, Dirk was not drafted to be a center). 782830[/snapback] being able to knock down the jumper from the elbow though would be nice out of a big man, along with knowledge of fundamental defensive principles, something a certain phoenix big has zero knowledge of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. 782827[/snapback] Is a big man really supposed to shoot jumpers? Ill take a bruising big man who can get nasty down low and hit the boards then a 7 footer who floats on the wings and shoots 80% from the free throw line. (And no, Dirk was not drafted to be a center). 782830[/snapback] being able to knock down the jumper from the elbow though would be nice out of a big man, along with knowledge of fundamental defensive principles, something a certain phoenix big has zero knowledge of. 782965[/snapback] 'Peans are known for being poor at defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 The 11 pick is solid. Usually decent role players end up here like Pietrus or Jeffries from past years. The Magic could have a shot at Hakim Warrick who Id like them to take. The kid has such long arms and is athletic and still has more room to develop. Put up solid numbers with Cuse. A lot of drafts have them taking the high school kid who can shoot, Martell Webster. btw, ignore half the stuff Chad Ford says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 btw, ignore half the stuff Chad Ford says. 783008[/snapback] Hey, He's Darko's biggest fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. 782827[/snapback] Is a big man really supposed to shoot jumpers? Ill take a bruising big man who can get nasty down low and hit the boards then a 7 footer who floats on the wings and shoots 80% from the free throw line. (And no, Dirk was not drafted to be a center). 782830[/snapback] being able to knock down the jumper from the elbow though would be nice out of a big man, along with knowledge of fundamental defensive principles, something a certain phoenix big has zero knowledge of. 782965[/snapback] 'Peans are known for being poor at defense. 782973[/snapback] and thats still better than most young american players, especially those that dont go through 3/4 years of college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fan Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i hope the channing frye falls to #9...if not i'll be happy with Chris Taft...who knows, that guy from lithuania may fall to #9, but I doubt it...plus the Warriors don't need another European with a hard to pronounce name (Andris Biedrins, Zarko Cabarkapa, Nikoloz Tskitisvilli, Mickael Pietrus, etc.) 782614[/snapback] The Euros are (hopefully) the future of the game. They at least teach big men fundamentals, unlike here, where your typical big men are generally lacking the ability to consistently nail jump shots. 782827[/snapback] Is a big man really supposed to shoot jumpers? Ill take a bruising big man who can get nasty down low and hit the boards then a 7 footer who floats on the wings and shoots 80% from the free throw line. (And no, Dirk was not drafted to be a center). 782830[/snapback] being able to knock down the jumper from the elbow though would be nice out of a big man, along with knowledge of fundamental defensive principles, something a certain phoenix big has zero knowledge of. 782965[/snapback] 'Peans are known for being poor at defense. 782973[/snapback] and thats still better than most young american players, especially those that dont go through 3/4 years of college. 783098[/snapback] Really? I disagree with that statement. Look at the typical European's drafted, especially the young ones and see that not only has their 'fundamental' play not translated wel offensively, but they have been very one-dimensional defensively as well and usually are a liability. Manu is not a Euro, he is a S. American before you say anything also. But if you take an overwhelming look at the typical Euro's drafted in the lottery and the American's, I would say the Euro's are was weaker on both ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Question to basketball fans. What's the point in the draft lottery? Can't it just be done by record like MLB and the NFL does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Question to basketball fans. What's the point in the draft lottery? Can't it just be done by record like MLB and the NFL does it? 783535[/snapback] It was created in 1985 to fix the draft so the big market Knicks got Patrick Ewing, and has just stuck ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeel324 Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Question to basketball fans. What's the point in the draft lottery? Can't it just be done by record like MLB and the NFL does it? 783535[/snapback] It was created in 1985 to fix the draft so the big market Knicks got Patrick Ewing, and has just stuck ever since. 783606[/snapback] and to prevent teams from getting a #1 just by tanking it :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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