Accord Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Valdez was perfect through 5 innings in his rehab start retiring the first 17 batters he faced and allowed just 1 single. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Sounds like he's making good progess. :thumbup We could use a boost to the BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I don't have high hopes for him so hopefully he surprises me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Perfect through five innings in any league is impressive. Move him on up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxingted Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Exxon is back and taking no prisoners! Sure he may never put up great numbers, but I'd put his win-loss record against any #5 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus_13 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Perfect through 5 innings, but he faced 17 batters and allowed 1 hit? :goodpost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Where are all the Valdez haters? Or will they come out of the woodwork when he loses a start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 He's not the answer. As terrible as Leiter has been this year, Valdez has been comparably worse in recent years. This start coupled with his last rehab start (2 IP 7 R 6 H) changes nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Where are all the Valdez haters?? Or will they come out of the woodwork when he loses a start? 856423[/snapback] I'll be waiting in the bushes, don't worry. :mischief Actually I don't hate him.... just don't think he's very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinatPenn Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 He's not a savior. But he's better than Leiter. Then again... I'm probably better than Leiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Perfect through 5 innings, but he faced 17 batters and allowed 1 hit? :goodpost 856413[/snapback] He was perfect through 5 2/3 where he gave up his first hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 He's not the answer. As terrible as Leiter has been this year, Valdez has been comparably worse in recent years. This start coupled with his last rehab start (2 IP 7 R 6 H) changes nothing. 856639[/snapback] You see, this is just flat out not true. Valdez was one of the best number 5 starters in baseball last year, he was the ONLY number 5 starter in baseball to win 14 games and when he pitched on the road he was nothing short of unstoppable. On the road, he pitched like Roger Clemens, at home he pitched like Darren Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 He's not the answer. As terrible as Leiter has been this year, Valdez has been comparably worse in recent years. This start coupled with his last rehab start (2 IP 7 R 6 H) changes nothing. 856639[/snapback] You see, this is just flat out not true. Valdez was one of the best number 5 starters in baseball last year, he was the ONLY number 5 starter in baseball to win 14 games and when he pitched on the road he was nothing short of unstoppable. On the road, he pitched like Roger Clemens, at home he pitched like Darren Oliver. 856740[/snapback] Wasn't he better at home last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 He's not the answer. As terrible as Leiter has been this year, Valdez has been comparably worse in recent years. This start coupled with his last rehab start (2 IP 7 R 6 H) changes nothing. 856639[/snapback] You see, this is just flat out not true. Valdez was one of the best number 5 starters in baseball last year, he was the ONLY number 5 starter in baseball to win 14 games and when he pitched on the road he was nothing short of unstoppable. On the road, he pitched like Roger Clemens, at home he pitched like Darren Oliver. 856740[/snapback] Wasn't he better at home last year? 856742[/snapback] I'm pretty sure it was on the road, though I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 It was at home. 2.55 ERA and 1.04 WHIP at home (cavernous PPS and Petco) 8.56 ERA and 2.04 WHIP away Maybe you were thinking of 2002 and 2003 when he was playing with Texas and without humid air and deeply set fences. Another interesting stat: Run support - 5.77 in 2004 (Apology accepted, Accord) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 he still sucks. bad. what level was this? A ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Valdez' 2004 splits broken down by team. 2.98 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, 6.33 IP/G, 3.8 RS, 6 QS and 6-2 record in 10 GS w/ Padres @ Petco 9.00 ERA, 2.11 WHIP, 4.7 IP/G, 6.9 RS, 2 QS and 3-4 record n 10 GS w/ Padres away 1.50 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 6 IP/G, 3.8 RS, 4 QS and 3-1 record in 5 GS w/ Marlins @ PPS 7.96 ERA, 1.88 WHIP, 4.3 IP/G, 5.2 RS, 1 QS and 2-2 record in 6 GS w/ Marlins away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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