Accord Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 (CNN) -- Osama bin Laden's No. 2 man in al Qaeda has threatened more destruction in London, saying that British Prime Minister Tony Blair would be to blame. In a video broadcast Thursday on Arabic-language TV station Al Jazeera Ayman al-Zawahiri also issued a warning for the United States. "To the British, I am telling you that Blair brought you destruction in the middle of London and more will come, God willing," he said. He appeared to be referring to the two attacks on London's transit system on July 7 and July 21. The first bombings killed 52 commuters and the four bombers. No one was killed in the second attack, in which the bombs failed to detonate. Al-Zawahiri, a 54-year-old Egyptian doctor, is bin Laden's closest adviser. After the September 11, 2001 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, the U.S. State Department offered a $25 million award for information leading to al-Zawahiri's apprehension. In the video, al-Zawahiri also issued several warnings for the United States. "Our message is clear -- what you saw in New York and Washington (in 2001) and what you are seeing in Afghanistan and Iraq, all these are nothing compared to what you will see next." He also warned the United States to "stop stealing our oil and wealth and stop supporting corrupt rulers." "If you continue your politics against Muslims, you will see, God willing, such horror that you will forget the horrors of Vietnam." Al-Zawahiri reminded the United States and its allies of the "hudna" (truce) that bin Laden offered last year in return for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Muslim lands. "Didn't Osama bin Laden tell you that you would never dream of peace until we actually live it in Palestine and before all the infidel armies withdraw from the land of Mohammed? "Instead (of accepting the truce), you spilled rivers of blood in our countries, and we exploded volcanoes of anger in your countries." He told the American people that their leaders are lying to them about the Iraq war and called for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces. "The truth that has been kept from you by (President) Bush, (Secretary of State Condoleezza) Rice and (Defense Secretary Donald) Rumsfeld is that there is no way out of Iraq without immediate withdrawal, and any delay on this means only more dead, more losses. "If you don't leave today, certainly you will leave tomorrow, and after tens of thousands of dead, and double that figure in disabled and wounded." A U.S. intelligence official told CNN the video was being analyzed, but quickly pointed out that "there has never been a false tape" from al-Zawahiri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Imagine if they got their dirty hands on nukes. Setting off nukes in New York, Washington, and London at the same time. That would turn the entire world into chaos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeWrecker Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 so.. do you think Fl is a possible target?.... i mean... there are much bigger cities than miami.. but do u think they might? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinGuru Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 so.. do you think Fl is a possible target?.... i mean... there are much bigger cities than miami.. but do u think they might? 888866[/snapback] I really don't think so. And I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I don't know why they would attack Florida, there isn't anything of value to destroy down here. One of the major cities on either coast would make more sense as a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boog Sciambi Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I don't know why they would attack Florida, there isn't anything of value to destroy down here. One of the major cities on either coast would make more sense as a target. 888881[/snapback] the port of miami and port everglades are highly valuable assets. port everglades is one of the deepest and most valuable ports in the southeast and port of miami deals with all of latin america, we're totally f***ed if they screw iwth that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Tampa: Central Command Miami: Southern Command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boog Sciambi Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Tampa: Central Command Miami: Southern Command 888995[/snapback] of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Tampa: Central Command Miami: Southern Command 888995[/snapback] of what? 889004[/snapback] The military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 um...yeah...Florida wont get bombed. Its not as important as some of you think and its not centralized like NY or Chicago. And I grew up here and am proud of the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 They talk a lot of s**t, this isn't even newsworthy. They are gonna keep talking their game, and unfortunately stuff will keep happening. But am I supposed to worry about this?? I hope not, because that would be pretty pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Just like a casual bomb threat in a high school, this is mostly just hot air But every once in a while, we have to eat crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I'm not worried about it. If they attack, so be it. We'll respond by ****ing them up even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I'm not worried about it. If they attack, so be it. We'll respond by ****ing them up even more. 889196[/snapback] If they do anything near 9/11 the US will not hold back anything. It will be ten times worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why are we holding back anything now? Shouldnt we be taking out AQ right now? It should be a 100x worse for AQ right now. Unless "they" is who we choose to punish collaterally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why are we holding back anything now? Shouldnt we be taking out AQ right now? It should be a 100x worse for AQ right now. Unless "they" is who we choose to punish collaterally. 889577[/snapback] Im talking throwing out all rules. Telling the world to get F***ed. Going into every country we feel has terrorists and sending 50000 marines. Play by our rules. Youd probably be against that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why are we holding back anything now? Shouldnt we be taking out AQ right now? It should be a 100x worse for AQ right now.? Unless "they" is who we choose to punish collaterally. 889577[/snapback] Possibly because this is just a terrorist organization and not a country. Also, North Korea threatens WW3 all the time and we don't invade them ever. It's not even newsworthy anymore. We don't invade people at the drop of a hat (or a few words) because we're not the bad guys. And we don't know exactly where these guys are located (small sects across some havy-duty religious/political ticking timebombs will do that). And where do we draw lines at "taking names"? Shouldn't we finish this awesome War in Iraq before wasting more American lives in some useless continent to continent search for Al-Qeada? Once again some worthless info gets to the masses who couldn't do anything with that information regardless of knowing it or not (the "It's a RED ALERT, what do we do!?" "Well, put the turkey in the oven and let's have dinner" effect). Typical scare tactics. There's TONS of these videos. I can't validate taking away, in some small way, basic freedoms and liberties away from Americans to "avoid" terrorist attacks that may or may not happen. The price of a free society is crap like this can happen at any time. It sucks, but we tacitly consent to it by voting and living here and using the public works. I like the system. We have to keep our borders open and and our eyes for anything, but really, until we have some hard evidence to go on, we can't do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why are we holding back anything now? Shouldnt we be taking out AQ right now? It should be a 100x worse for AQ right now. Unless "they" is who we choose to punish collaterally. 889577[/snapback] Im talking throwing out all rules. Telling the world to get F***ed. Going into every country we feel has terrorists and sending 50000 marines. Play by our rules. Youd probably be against that. 889602[/snapback] I think youve watched one too many Chuck Norris movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why are we holding back anything now? Shouldnt we be taking out AQ right now? It should be a 100x worse for AQ right now. Unless "they" is who we choose to punish collaterally. 889577[/snapback] Possibly because this is just a terrorist organization and not a country. Also, North Korea threatens WW3 all the time and we don't invade them ever. It's not even newsworthy anymore. We don't invade people at the drop of a hat (or a few words) because we're not the bad guys. And we don't know exactly where these guys are located (small sects across some havy-duty religious/political ticking timebombs will do that). And where do we draw lines at "taking names"? Shouldn't we finish this awesome War in Iraq before wasting more American lives in some useless continent to continent search for Al-Qeada? Once again some worthless info gets to the masses who couldn't do anything with that information regardless of knowing it or not (the "It's a RED ALERT, what do we do!?" "Well, put the turkey in the oven and let's have dinner" effect). Typical scare tactics. There's TONS of these videos. I can't validate taking away, in some small way, basic freedoms and liberties away from Americans to "avoid" terrorist attacks that may or may not happen. The price of a free society is crap like this can happen at any time. It sucks, but we tacitly consent to it by voting and living here and using the public works. I like the system. We have to keep our borders open and and our eyes for anything, but really, until we have some hard evidence to go on, we can't do anything. 889702[/snapback] There are a lot of things we could be doing that are absolutley feasible. Right now, MS-13 is activley helping AQ in South America such that they are practically allies. MS-13 could be infiltrated since they operated less by a cell system. The religious nut cases in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan need to be addressed too. The problem is nobody really cares and everyone just assumes by default that the current leadership is doing a good job. This war has taken way too much time and resources. The strategy FTF suggests is the core problem. It ignores an intilligent approach to counter terrorism in favor of blow em up and ask questions later. Guess what, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT AQ WANTS. They dont want people on their side. They just want people who are against America. The more we alienate people and tell them to "f*** off, we do what we want," the more convuluted this war gets. As Bill Maher has said, Iraq was our way of saying "we are so pissed off, we are not only going to get you, but we are going to get your cousin who had nothing to do with it." Thats the emotional foreign policy FTF wants. That just doesnt work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 There are a lot of things we could be doing that are absolutley feasible. Right now, MS-13 is activley helping AQ in South America such that they are practically allies. MS-13 could be infiltrated since they operated less by a cell system. The religious nut cases in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan need to be addressed too. The problem is nobody really cares and everyone just assumes by default that the current leadership is doing a good job. This war has taken way too much time and resources. The strategy FTF suggests is the core problem. It ignores an intilligent approach to counter terrorism in favor of blow em up and ask questions later. Guess what, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT AQ WANTS. They dont want people on their side. They just want people who are against America. The more we alienate people and tell them to "f*** off, we do what we want," the more convuluted this war gets. As Bill Maher has said, Iraq was our way of saying "we are so pissed off, we are not only going to get you, but we are going to get your cousin who had nothing to do with it." Thats the emotional foreign policy FTF wants. That just doesnt work. 889715[/snapback] EXACTLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan253 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Wipe these f***ers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 ZzZzZzZ Whu!?!? Oh, al-Queda is talking smack again? Tell someone who gives a s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFan24 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 These guys don't have the balls to come out to a fair fight. They've got to be all secretive and stuff and kill innocent people. If it were me, I'd find out where every single family member of these @holes live and bomb the **** out of them. Then they'll really know what it is like to lose someone close to them over nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 These guys don't have the balls to come out to a fair fight. They've got to be all secretive and stuff and kill innocent people. If it were me, I'd find out where every single family member of these @holes live and bomb the **** out of them. Then they'll really know what it is like to lose someone close to them over nothing. 890921[/snapback] Problem with your theory is that this guys are crazy enough to not care that their close family members have died. They would probably find a way to turn it into a martydom for allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2k3Champs Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Turkey Point is a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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