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Wow. Really interesting about face from Rick Santorum. Good to see the Republican party not being so beholden to the religious right this past week.

 

 

Leading Republican differs with Bush on evolution

 

By Jon Hurdle

Reuters

Thursday, August 4, 2005; 3:19 PM

 

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A leading Republican senator allied with the religious right differed on Thursday with President Bush's support for teaching an alternative to the theory of evolution known as "intelligent design."

 

Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, a possible 2008 presidential contender who faces a tough re-election fight next year in Pennsylvania, said intelligent design, which is backed by many religious conservatives, lacked scientific credibility and should not be taught in science classes.

 

 

Bush told reporters from Texas on Monday that "both sides" in the debate over intelligent design and evolution should be taught in schools "so people can understand what the debate is about."

 

"I think I would probably tailor that a little more than what the president has suggested," Santorum, the third-ranking Republican member of the U.S. Senate, told National Public Radio. "I'm not comfortable with intelligent design being taught in the science classroom."

 

Evangelical Christians have launched campaigns in at least 18 states to make public schools teach intelligent design alongside Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

 

Proponents of intelligent design argue that nature is so complex that it could not have occurred by random natural selection, as held by Darwin's 1859 theory of evolution, and so must be the work of an unnamed "intelligent cause."

 

Santorum is the third-ranking member of the U.S. Senate and has championed causes of the religious right including opposition to gay marriage and abortion.

 

He is expected to face a stiff challenge from Democrat Bob Casey in his quest for re-election next year in Pennsylvania, a major battleground state in recent presidential elections.

 

The controversy over intelligent design is a hot topic in Pennsylvania, where the Dover Area School District in south central Pennsylvania has included the theory in its biology curriculum.

 

The American Civil Liberties Union has sued to block the policy, calling it a violation of the constitutional separation of church and state.

 

Most Americans believe that God created human beings or guided the process of evolution, according to a CBS poll last November. Two-thirds said they wanted creationism taught alongside evolution in schools.

 

SCIENCE CURRICULUM

 

Critics, including many science teachers, say intelligent design cannot be scientifically tested and has no place in a science curriculum.

 

Santorum sided in part with intelligent-design proponents in saying that there were gaps in the theory of evolution.

 

"What we should be teaching are the problems and holes -- and I think there are legitimate problems and holes -- in the theory of evolution. What we need to do is to present those fairly, from a scientific point of view," he said in the interview.

 

"As far as intelligent design is concerned, I really don't believe it has risen to the level of a scientific theory at this point that we would want to teach it alongside of evolution."

 

Santorum had proposed an unsuccessful measure in 2001 that would have required discussing the "controversy" of evolution when the theory is taught in classes.

 

Bush's science adviser, John Marburger, was quoted in The New York Times this week as saying intelligent design was not a scientific concept, and that Bush's remarks should be interpreted to mean he thinks the concept should be taught as part of the "social context" in science classes.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5080401159.html

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I like how people FOR Intelligent Design argue Evolution is "just a theory" and yet are willing to go, wholeheartedly, for something without any kind of evidence as Intelligent Design.

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I'm with you on that.

 

It's good to see that both Frist and Santorum turned against their parties this week, but I know that neither is going to last for very long. Frist decided that he needed to support stem cell research if he was going to boost his public support. Santorum may have also made this comment in hopes that he can serve another term.

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Good.

 

More and more people need to break the party line. Because always sticking with the party line is garbage. The people I usually like always break the party line.

 

It'd be tough for me to go against McCain if he runs next election for this reason; but it'd depend, pretty heavily, on who the Democrats put up.

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it is in reality itself a theory. It won't destroy their beliefs.

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They sure don't have a problem accepting that "just a theory of gravity" do they? Anyone who says "just a theory" has no idea how science works.

 

You could have empirical evidence and mathematical formulas and they wouldn't believe you.

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Off topic, but Jeb's little Science FCAT is destroying science education in Florida.

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That's not correct.

 

The entire FCAT ITSELF is destroying Florida education. That's all the teachers here are trained to care about anymore. Schools that perform better on the FCAT get more funding as a result. The ones that get F's are shut down, and their kids go to the rest of the already overcrowded schools.

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