Posted September 7, 200519 yr I am writing a report on this article for my Diverse Populations class. It disgusted me so much what people are saying, I thought I'd share this with you and show you another example how sick and twisted people can be in this country. Hate Groups on Katrina Sept. 2, 2005 -- Hate groups have proposed racist explanations and deadly solutions in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, which left thousands desperate and stranded in predominately black New Orleans. And in some cases, comments made by public officials appear to be eerily similar. By Camille Jackson | Staff Writer, Tolerance.org Amid media and personal accounts of the catastrophe that has struck the Gulf coast and the predominately black city of New Orleans, rhetoric on white supremacist websites underscores the country's racial tensions. While others struggle with the "Why" behind this catastrophe, white supremacists have easy answers: blaming the storm's most impoverished victims and offering racist explanations with deadly solutions. "The n*****s were probably too stoned to get out of town when the warnings came," wrote one poster to Aryan Resistance. Sadly, statements from some public officials seem to reinforce the intolerance and "blame the victim" response expressed by members of hate sites like Storm Front, Aryan Resistance and National Vanguard. FEMA director Michael Brown told CNN that the victims bear some responsibility for their plight by not heeding advance warnings. "I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said. At press time, the Council of Conservative Citizens, an ultra-conservative hate group, announced on its website that whites are being attacked by blacks in New Orleans, and that "whites in the Superdome had to band together to protect themselves from racial attacks." With a similar sentiment, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, one of several Southern lawmakers with ties to the CCC, said: "I've urged the highway patrol and national guard to treat looters ruthlessly. ... The rules of engagement will be as ruthless as the law allows." In other hate forums members have endorsed letting black storm victims drown, die from disease and predictably, sending the black victims back to Africa. "The [National Guard troops] in New Orleans should be issued orders of shoot to kill in order to end the current problems," wrote celticknight88 in the Aryan Resistance forum on Tuesday. Two days later, frustrated Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco, authorized newly mobilized troops to shoot to kill. In a Thursday press conference, Blanco stated: "These troops are fresh back from Iraq, well trained, experienced, battle tested, and under my orders to restore order in the streets. ... They have M-16s, and they're locked and loaded ... I have one message for these hoodlums: These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so if necessary, and I expect they will." Here's what other hate group posters are saying in the wake of Katrina: Aryan Resistance Forum Cougars26: What I want to know is why are they bothering to pluck n*****s off rooftops. If they left them there a lot of the urban blight problem could be solved this week in the South. I wonder how many n*****s we actually got rid of. Stormfront Fasces: I think it's very typical and expected that Negroes, as soon as the police are gone and there are no (mostly white) armed home and business owners left to guard their property, blacks immediately revert to their natural state of savagery. Soon they'll throw away their clothes and live like back in Da Mothaland(Africa). National Socialist Movement schume98: The looting of stores, raping, and shooting at rescue helicopters in New Orleans shows the true colors of blacks there. ? Now, those who remain (and haven't died while trapped in their attic) are just a disaster removed from being shown as the animals they really are. I hope they drown in the "Toxic Gumbo" that is their town. Joe Roy of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which monitors hate groups across the nation, isn't surprised at the rhetoric popping up on hate websites in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. "These groups attach themselves to tragedy at every opportunity for recruitment," Roy said. "They pretend to have the answers and reach out to hundreds of desperate people, unfortunately, some of whom will follow their lead." http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=1284
September 7, 200519 yr You know, I have a personal penchant for hate groups. They have but one form of expression and it's this intense, agro-hatred that you just don't see every day. It's really extraordinary. And they have a way of just pouncing on these things that's awe-inspiring. So much hatred confined in that hostile prison cage that must be the ignorant mind of a member of the Aryan Nation. You just have to wonder what pushed a person towards those groups, because they usually don't live around any people of varying races at all (I read somewhere a long time ago that the largest populations of these groups are contained in predominantly white areas). I'd hate to live in some shack in America and be that scared.
September 7, 200519 yr The South for the most part just hasn't progressed in ideology that much since the civil war. Confederates, mad at loosing the war and the right to slavery, just pass the hatred down generation to generation. Where I live at in Illinois, is more like the deep south than any other northern state. Centralia High School, in Centralia Illinois, was one of the last schools in the nation to de-segregate, and the smaller grade schools didn't de-segregate until long after that. There is still alot of racial tension in that town, and all over southern Illinois. You are more likely to find a Confederate flag flying here than an American flag. People have Confederate flags all over their vehicles, houses, etc. etc. In my small town of 650, theres been a few black families that have attempted to live here, and most have been run off. One guy rode his bike around town and all the little kids threw rocks at him. A black family moved out by me, and were gone in a matter of weeks. All hours of the night, people driving through their yard, yelling racial slurs, and from hear-say, a cross was burned in their lawn. Just the other day, at our towns annual parade, there were two black children, they were the only two that didnt get candy thrown at them. I've lived in Kentucky and Tennessee, and they dont have anything that amounts to the amount of hatred towards black people as where I live in Illinois. The Aryan Nation is worse here than the KKK, but both have strong memberships. Yall can blast me all you want for almost joining the KKK, but it was not done out of hatred in anyway. I am as indifferent to black people as I am to white people or asians or lations. I honestly just dont care one way or the other. If I had my choice I'd rather us run off the white trash. Them worthless pieces of human scum are all over the area. I didn't join the KKK, it's a mistake I didn't make. But, any human being that centers their life on the hating of another human being is a stupid human being. It's sad that this type of thing still goes on, but it wont go away, not now, not ever. It will keep getting handed down generation to generation. The numbers might dwindle, but it wont completely go away. We, as people, just need to be better than those misguided few, and instead of reaching out our arms to knock someone down reach out our arms, take whoever needs help by the hand, and help guide them.
September 7, 200519 yr sounds like the moronic fool that sits a few desks away from me at work. His own exact words when a group of us were discussing it were, " N.O. is a city filled with blacks, gays and lusty ways. It was god's wishes to see them destroyed." I dont know what sickens me more, people like that (and the article above) which share the name human beings or the sight of the destruction there. I hope the individuals from Katrina will someday recover their lives
September 7, 200519 yr I would like to see what they would say if Katrina had passed by S. Fla :putemup
September 7, 200519 yr I would like to see what they would say if Katrina had passed by S. Fla :putemup 933598[/snapback] Katrina did hit South Florida but it was a pretty weak storm at that point. Anyway, this is just dumb people saying dumb things. Some people just don't learn and giving them attention is the opposite of what they should get.
September 7, 200519 yr Leonard Pitts wrote an article on the second. The thing that stood out to me the most (It was about the situation in New Orleans) was all of these hate groups saying it was God's punishment to blacks, or intervention against the Gay festival that was to be held there. It just boggles my mind how these people can be so damned ignorant. I'd love to see all these hate groups just dumped in the muck that is much of New Orleans, now.
September 7, 200519 yr I like the hate groups. It shows us how far people have come over the years. That, and they make great punchlines.
September 8, 200519 yr hehe. nice cartoon accord. Racism is still alive and well, at least in Gainesville. Rednecks show up in my bar all the time yelling white power and n*****s to random people. I know that's not the norm, but it's not that infrequent either.
September 8, 200519 yr hehe. nice cartoon accord. Racism is still alive and well, at least in Gainesville. Rednecks show up in my bar all the time yelling white power and n*****s to random people. I know that's not the norm, but it's not that infrequent either. 934540[/snapback] Wow. Just. Wow. I have NEVER been to a bar like that. That's generally looked down upon here. If someone was to do that, you'd probably hear about twenty people yell "trash" back at 'em.
September 8, 200519 yr hehe.? nice cartoon accord. Racism is still alive and well, at least in Gainesville.? Rednecks show up in my bar all the time yelling white power and n*****s to random people.? I know that's not the norm, but it's not that infrequent either. 934540[/snapback] Wow. Just. Wow. I have NEVER been to a bar like that. That's generally looked down upon here. If someone was to do that, you'd probably hear about twenty people yell "trash" back at 'em. 934812[/snapback] God damn :o down here the yelling would occur during the ass beatings (stabbings and shootings if anyone's strapped).
September 8, 200519 yr hehe. nice cartoon accord. Racism is still alive and well, at least in Gainesville. Rednecks show up in my bar all the time yelling white power and n*****s to random people. I know that's not the norm, but it's not that infrequent either. 934540[/snapback] Being in GVille I've heard more racist things since June than I've heard (said seriously) in my previous 18 years combined.
September 8, 200519 yr hehe.? nice cartoon accord. Racism is still alive and well, at least in Gainesville.? Rednecks show up in my bar all the time yelling white power and n*****s to random people.? I know that's not the norm, but it's not that infrequent either. 934540[/snapback] Being in GVille I've heard more racist things since June than I've heard (said seriously) in my previous 18 years combined. 934968[/snapback] It's really sad, you know. But, on some level it's REALLY funny. I mean, you just have to laugh at someone who's like that. Kind of like that, "They still make you!?"-thing. I'd imagine it's the same kind of thing when humans predominantly populated the earth and there's the possibility that there's still some neanderthals wondering around. "GOOD GOD, DID YOU SEE THAT UNEVOLVED... THING!?"
September 9, 200519 yr I think most people, deep in thier hearts, are predjudiced against other ethnicities and that people just arbitrarily say thier against racism. Racism is such a stupid outdated term, as if black, whites, and asians are seperate races with different anatomies that can't breed with each other.
September 9, 200519 yr I think most people, deep in thier hearts, are predjudiced against other ethnicities and that people just arbitrarily say thier against racism. Racism is such a stupid outdated term, as if black, whites, and asians are seperate races with different anatomies that can't breed with each other. 936309[/snapback] Hmmmm... You seem to be saying something completely different at the end than you did in the beginning. I agree racism can be tought, but I'm not so sure if "deep in their hearts" people are naturally predisposed to be racist.
September 9, 200519 yr I think most people, deep in thier hearts, are predjudiced against other ethnicities and that people just arbitrarily say thier against racism. Racism is such a stupid outdated term, as if black, whites, and asians are seperate races with different anatomies that can't breed with each other. 936309[/snapback] Hmmmm... You seem to be saying something completely different at the end than you did in the beginning. I agree racism can be tought, but I'm not so sure if "deep in their hearts" people are naturally predisposed to be racist. 936311[/snapback] I didn't mean for ethnicity and predjudice to equate to race and racism. Race is a scientifically innaccurate term, making racism an obsolete term. I didn't imply that predjudice is a natural, god-given disposition. My point was that I believe it's naive to say that predjudice based on color (and other things) is an antiquated attitude, I think it still has pretty strong roots here and abroad.
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