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Player, Team 1st-2nd-3rd--Total

1. Albert Pujols, StL 18-14-0--378

2. Andruw Jones, Atl 13-17-2--351

3. Derrek Lee, Chi 1-1-30--263

4. Morgan Ensberg, Hou 0-0-0--160

5. Miguel Cabrera, Fla 0-0-0--146

6. Carlos Delgado, Fla 0-0-0--84

7. Pat Burrell, Phi 0-0-0--65

8. Chris Carpenter, StL 0-0-0--52

9. Brian Giles, SD 0-0-0--48

10. Jimmy Rollins, Phi 0-0-0--45

11. Dontrelle Willis, Fla 0-0-0--42

12. Jason Bay, Pit 0-0-0--41

13. Chase Utley, Phi 0-0-0--22

14. Lance Berkman, Hou 0-0-0--21

15. Bobby Abreu, Phi 0-0-0--21

16. Chad Cordero, Was 0-0-0--21

17. Trevor Hoffman, SD 0-0-0--19

18. Carlos Lee, Mil 0-0-0--19

19. Jeff Kent, LA 0-0-0--18

20. David Wright, NY 0-0-0--18

21. David Eckstein, StL 0-0-0--15

22. Roger Clemens, Hou 0-0-0--8

23. Roy Oswalt, Hou 0-0-0--6

24. Ken Griffey Jr., Cin 0-0-0--5

25. Andy Pettitte, Hou 0-0-0--5

26. Jim Edmonds, StL 0-0-0--3

27. Cliff Floyd, NY 0-0-0--3

28. Marcus Giles, Atl 0-0-0--3

29. Adam Dunn, Cin 0-0-0--3

30. Scott Eyre, SF 0-0-0--1

31. Brad Lidge, Hou 0-0-0--1

32. Jose Reyes, NY 0-0-0--1

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

In MVP voting, the writers don't just vote for players, they vote for the actual rankings of the players. For example for Pujols, Jones, D-Lee... they won't just vote for one of them, they'll give Pujols a first place vote, Jones a second place vote, and D-Lee a third place vote.

 

As you can see from the voting, Pujols and Jones was really a tossup between the writers and the numbers they received were fairly close and really could have gone either way, but D-Lee received 30 third place votes.

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

 

They were tenth place votes...think before you go on a war path. It isn't as egregious as Hideki Matsui being left off ballots after his rookie season, pretty much costing him the ROY award.

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

 

They were tenth place votes...think before you go on a war path. It isn't as egregious as Hideki Matsui being left off ballots after his rookie season, pretty much costing him the ROY award.

ANYONE who voted for this list MUST have had Pujols AND Carpenter...the CY young winner and the MVP winner ahead of Eckstein.

 

THUS, it is my belief that anyone who included Eckstein on the list decided to put 3 cardinals on the list for MVP of the entire league....that, my friend, is RIDICULOUS...even if there is TEN slots. You can make an argument that not everyone had Delgado, Cabrera, and Willis on the SAME ballot...but it is beyond argument that the moron who put Eckstein on there had ALL THREE.

 

How about you THINK about your post.

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THUS, it is my belief that anyone who included Eckstein on the list decided to put 3 cardinals on the list for MVP of the entire league....that, my friend, is RIDICULOUS...even if there is TEN slots. You can make an argument that not everyone had Delgado, Cabrera, and Willis on the SAME ballot...but it is beyond argument that the moron who put Eckstein on there had ALL THREE.

 

Eckstein got a 6th place vote, 2 seven place votes, and 2 tenth place votes.. Of course a couple had all three together but who cares?

 

Why do people even argue or care that much about players finishing like 20th? LOL, like it's really that big of a deal.. :whistle

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I think it has to do with Eckstein actually getting MVP votes than where he finished.

 

exactly.

 

I'm not completely enraged by it. But, I think it taints the whole voting process. It is one thing to say someone played a valuable role on a team. It is another to suggest that Eckstein was the 10th most valuable player in the league - when it is quite obvious from the voting that the people who voted for him likely included two other cardinals on this list.

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

 

They were tenth place votes...think before you go on a war path. It isn't as egregious as Hideki Matsui being left off ballots after his rookie season, pretty much costing him the ROY award.

ANYONE who voted for this list MUST have had Pujols AND Carpenter...the CY young winner and the MVP winner ahead of Eckstein.

 

THUS, it is my belief that anyone who included Eckstein on the list decided to put 3 cardinals on the list for MVP of the entire league....that, my friend, is RIDICULOUS...even if there is TEN slots. You can make an argument that not everyone had Delgado, Cabrera, and Willis on the SAME ballot...but it is beyond argument that the moron who put Eckstein on there had ALL THREE.

 

How about you THINK about your post.

 

I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Does it really matter who finished 30th?

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Who the hell voted for Jose Reyes? Or David Eckstein?

 

They're good players, but c'mon...

 

 

The people that noticed Eckstein was a valuable peice in the Cards lineup.. :confused

Too bad the award is for MOST valuable piece....

 

and I can think of at least two cardinals that were clearly more valuable.

 

I'm all for recognition, but maybe these "throw away" votes are a little misplaced.

 

They were tenth place votes...think before you go on a war path. It isn't as egregious as Hideki Matsui being left off ballots after his rookie season, pretty much costing him the ROY award.

ANYONE who voted for this list MUST have had Pujols AND Carpenter...the CY young winner and the MVP winner ahead of Eckstein.

 

THUS, it is my belief that anyone who included Eckstein on the list decided to put 3 cardinals on the list for MVP of the entire league....that, my friend, is RIDICULOUS...even if there is TEN slots. You can make an argument that not everyone had Delgado, Cabrera, and Willis on the SAME ballot...but it is beyond argument that the moron who put Eckstein on there had ALL THREE.

 

How about you THINK about your post.

 

I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Does it really matter who finished 30th?

It doesn't matter where they finish in the overall rankings IMO. Nobody voted Eckstein for 30th best player. However, a few people voted him 10th...or 6th, etc. AND, as Pujols was the eventual winner...and Carpenter was the eventual CY Young winner (and finished quite high on this MVP list), it is obvious that SOME voters decided to vote three cardinals in the top 10 of the entire national league. I think that's a bit ridiculous, that's all.

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