Strike 3 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Sorry, but I just find it a little annoying when people tell others to stop watching just because they are being critical of something. It would be pretty insipid if fans only made positive remarks. I am of the belief that Cabrera deserves time and I love having the guy on my team but if someone wants to point out that he's less than perfect or that his defensive play leaves something to be desired I don't think that makes them less of a fan. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Then why is there no lapse at the plate? Please stop watching if you can't stand it. Cabrera has a far better arm than Lowell. Cabrera has more range than Lowell does. Cabrera is still learning the intricacies of third base in regards to his new partners on the infield. I doubt Cabrera has better range than Lowell, as Cabrera is just as slow as him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musk Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 Then why is there no lapse at the plate? Because the kid is a natrual talent. He doesn't have to try all that hard to do what he does at the plate. I know he's going to get better at 3rd, and errors will happen. But there really is no excuse for lazy errors like the one he had Friday. That was seriously disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Sorry, but I just find it a little annoying when people tell others to stop watching just because they are being critical of something. It would be pretty insipid if fans only made positive remarks. I am of the belief that Cabrera deserves time and I love having the guy on my team but if someone wants to point out that he's less than perfect or that his defensive play leaves something to be desired I don't think that makes them less of a fan. JMO. No but it makes them one hell of a nitpick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Then why is there no lapse at the plate? Please stop watching if you can't stand it. Cabrera has a far better arm than Lowell. Cabrera has more range than Lowell does. Cabrera is still learning the intricacies of third base in regards to his new partners on the infield. I doubt Cabrera has better range than Lowell, as Cabrera is just as slow as him. pure speed isn't the only component of range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Cabrera will be as good defensively as Lowell just as soon as he dies and reincarnates in Lowell's body. The guy needs some conditioning. He gained 20 pounds since last year and none of it was muscle. :thumbup I think this is a product of his not caring -- he knows this will be like a prison sentance for him, being on this team. I think once he's gone (either via trade or FA) you'll hear him let loose on Loria & Co. It won't be pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfish Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 If there is anyone in this team that we need to accept its Cabrera. His position is third base. Not left field. Willingham is doing fine there. Olivo is a better catcher. Not right field. That's Hermida's position. Shortstop, I don't think so. I know that was his position early on but you certainly don't want to give him anymore chances to make errors, and besides that's where Shades plays. So we agree that it has to be third. He will get better. Just give him a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 If there is anyone in this team that we need to accept its Cabrera. His position is third base. Not left field. Willingham is doing fine there. Olivo is a better catcher. Not right field. That's Hermida's position. Shortstop, I don't think so. I know that was his position early on but you certainly don't want to give him anymore chances to make errors, and besides that's where Shades plays. So we agree that it has to be third. He will get better. Just give him a chance. He had better shape up soon, because his play at 3b so far seems to cost the Marlins at least 1 run a game. Maybe the actual stats are better than that, but this weekend I belive that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 If there is anyone in this team that we need to accept its Cabrera. His position is third base. Not left field. Willingham is doing fine there. Olivo is a better catcher. Not right field. That's Hermida's position. Shortstop, I don't think so. I know that was his position early on but you certainly don't want to give him anymore chances to make errors, and besides that's where Shades plays. So we agree that it has to be third. He will get better. Just give him a chance. He had better shape up soon, because his play at 3b so far seems to cost the Marlins at least 1 run a game. Maybe the actual stats are better than that, but this weekend I belive that's true. shape up soon or what?.... we're gonna trade him? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 If there is anyone in this team that we need to accept its Cabrera. His position is third base. Not left field. Willingham is doing fine there. Olivo is a better catcher. Not right field. That's Hermida's position. Shortstop, I don't think so. I know that was his position early on but you certainly don't want to give him anymore chances to make errors, and besides that's where Shades plays. So we agree that it has to be third. He will get better. Just give him a chance. He had better shape up soon, because his play at 3b so far seems to cost the Marlins at least 1 run a game. Maybe the actual stats are better than that, but this weekend I belive that's true. shape up soon or what?.... we're gonna trade him? lol LMAO :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedtrainn22 Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 i understand what you guys are saying but this is nothing new.. he was lazy in the outfield and didnt show any hustle. i think he cares but thats just his style, looking lazy.. he probably just thinks about hitting too much. but hes like manny ramirez - i saw manny a couple days ago walk to a fly ball and let it drop even though he could definently catch it, and then he stared at it.. just be glad cabs average is up he doesnt look too lazy at the plate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 If there is anyone in this team that we need to accept its Cabrera. His position is third base. Not left field. Willingham is doing fine there. Olivo is a better catcher. Not right field. That's Hermida's position. Shortstop, I don't think so. I know that was his position early on but you certainly don't want to give him anymore chances to make errors, and besides that's where Shades plays. So we agree that it has to be third. He will get better. Just give him a chance. He had better shape up soon, because his play at 3b so far seems to cost the Marlins at least 1 run a game. Maybe the actual stats are better than that, but this weekend I belive that's true. shape up soon or what?.... we're gonna trade him? lol Gary Sheffield got that -- traded out of Milwaukee to San Diego. It can happen to Miguel Cabrera too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 I don't see the big fuss. He's not perfect, but he's getting to more balls than Lowell. He may not converting all of them, but he's turned some doubles into infield hits. That has been valuable. I think this is a product of his not caring -- he knows this will be like a prison sentance for him, being on this team. I think once he's gone (either via trade or FA) you'll hear him let loose on Loria & Co. It won't be pretty. Please stop projecting your feelings upon other people. Let's try to avoid that on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 I don't see the big fuss. He's not perfect, but he's getting to more balls than Lowell. He may not converting all of them, but he's turned some doubles into infield hits. That has been valuable. I think this is a product of his not caring -- he knows this will be like a prison sentance for him, being on this team. I think once he's gone (either via trade or FA) you'll hear him let loose on Loria & Co. It won't be pretty. Please stop projecting your feelings upon other people. Let's try to avoid that on this forum. :lolup Are you joking ? That's what you specialize in. I don't see the big fuss. He's not perfect, but he's getting to more balls than Lowell. He may not converting all of them, but he's turned some doubles into infield hits. That has been valuable. Please stop projecting your feelings upon other people. Let's try to avoid that on this forum. Yeah Lowell only won a Gold Glove last year because his fielding was so sloppy he didn't get to a lot of balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Lowell had the range of a snail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedtrainn22 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 man, just made error #9 yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFans46 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Current Fielding Percentage: .899 :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 You mean the people who voted for a DH as the gold glove winner at 1B? (1999 Palmeiro, with 28 games at 1B and 135 at DH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsfan75 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Lowell should have won it in other years as well, just got robbed by someone who hit better and had more notoriety. At least Lowell never looked like he was dogging it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Lowell should have won it in other years as well, just got robbed by someone who hit better and had more notoriety. At least Lowell never looked like he was dogging it. Agreed, Lowell should have won it in 2004 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedtrainn22 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 cabs needs to be in the american league so he can be a DH. i think he has potential to be a good 3rd baseman, hes just "rusty" right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlumeca Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think many Marlins should have recieved Gold Gloves including Alex Gonzalez, Pudge(2003) and Juan Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 You invalidated your opinion with that last name. He's been a below-average defender throughout his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Jablowme Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 I think many Marlins should have recieved Gold Gloves including Alex Gonzalez, Pudge(2003) and Juan Pierre. Juan Pierre ? Great guy but defender ? With his school girl arm ? No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 Funny how a 4-4 night can quell the tide of an error thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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