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Posted on Sun, Feb. 11, 2007

 

 

MARLINS

Front office 'disappointed' Cabrera skipped FanFest

Third baseman Miguel Cabrera, who will have an arbitration meeting Friday, did not attend the Marlins' annual FanFest.

BY BARRY JACKSON

bjackson@MiamiHerald.com

 

Third baseman Miguel Cabrera, awaiting his arbitration hearing Friday, stayed away from all of the team's promotional activities last week, and the Marlins aren't happy about it.

 

''It's very disappointing,'' team president David Samson said Saturday after Cabrera failed to appear at the team's annual FanFest at Dolphin Stadium. ``[Owner Jeffrey Loria] and the rest of us are very disappointed that he's not here with every one of his teammates. All the players are here except Miguel.

 

``We have tried to contact him and we were told he couldn't be here for personal reasons or whatever the case was. Hopefully, when we see him, he will explain to us and the fans why he wasn't.''

 

Samson was given no reason to believe that Cabrera's absence is related to this week's arbitration hearing in Phoenix. ''Miguel's an adult,'' Samson said. ``He knows it's a business.''

 

All the major-league Marlins under contract were expected to attend Saturday's FanFest, unless there were extenuating circumstances. Samson said Cabrera signed a contract Dec. 12, but the amount won't be determined until Friday's hearing.

 

Cabrera, who is eligible for arbitration for the first time, has asked for $7.4 million this season. The Marlins have offered $6.7 million. Cabrera won't be eligible for free agency until after 2009.

 

In a town hall meeting with fans Saturday, general manager Admin Beinfest was asked about the Marlins' financial approach with Cabrera. ''We're being fair,'' Beinfest said. ``It's a lot of money either way. There's no ill feelings on our end. The player has his rights.''

 

? The Marlins' only other arbitration case will be heard Monday, with reliever Kevin Gregg asking for $700,000 and the Marlins offering $575,000.

 

PITCHING UPDATE

 

Right-hander Anibal Sanchez, who felt discomfort in his throwing shoulder last month, threw off a mound in Jupiter recently and reported no problems, Beinfest said.

 

Right-hander Josh Johnson will try to throw Monday, three weeks after he felt ''sharp pain'' above his right elbow. Results from an MRI were negative, so Johnson indicated he's not concerned.

 

''We want to be cautious,'' Beinfest said, adding the Marlins are hopeful Johnson will be ready for the start of the season April 2.

 

? Left-hander Dontrelle Willis told fans at a town hall meeting, ``Most definitely get your playoff tickets because we're going. . . . I hope [other teams] think we're not better so we can bust them in the mouth in this heat.''

 

? Willis, who finished 12-12 with a 3.87 ERA last season after a 1-6 start, said he plans to build on his second half. ''To start out with a touchdown for an ERA and be able to have a positive season, I was more impressed with that than any other season I've had in my life,'' said Willis, who went 22-10 in 2005.

 

? On the first day individual game tickets were available, the Marlins said they sold more than 23,000 tickets, compared with 13,000 last season and 25,000 in 2005. About 15,000 people attended Saturday.

 

? In a town hall meeting, Samson said ''it looks like there's a good chance'' the Marlins will get state money toward a ballpark and said he wasn't sure if the team would change its name to the Miami Marlins if the downtown stadium materializes.

 

? When a fan asked if the Marlins would spend the money they get from revenue sharing, Samson said yes and cracked, ''Thank you, Mr. Fehr, for asking'' -- a reference to union chief Donald Fehr.

 

 

Why the heck is Samson trying to stir things up in public with Cabs???

Samson is such a feaking idiot has he ever done anything right in reference to the Marlins?

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Why the heck is Samson trying to stir things up in public with Cabs???

 

It's before an arbitration hearing with a wildly popular and talented kid. Probably wants to get the fans on the FO's side. Not that that has any influence over the outcome of the hearing, but it would make life a whole lot easier if the fan base agreed with the front office not paying an extra 700K to one of the great young players in the game.

 

Sadly I think this is only the beginning. This arbitration hearing is going to be what drives the Marlins and Cabrera apart. Over 700,000 dollars. Dammit.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

Such a simplistic view. And one that paints Cabrera and all major league players are greedy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Players sign and refuse contracts for a number of reasons, not simply salary.

 

 

(And yes, prin, this is stating the obvious, but it seems some people forget the obvious when it's convenient)

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Why call out Miguel publically for missing FanFest? What does it achieve? Why not take Miguel at his word that he couldn't attend due to personal reasons and leave it at that instead of attacking him in the press? The fans have many, many more reasons to be upset with you Samson and your screwing this team over in South Florida with that mouth of yours.

 

And for those of you who forget, this isn't the first time the Marlins brass has called out Miguel over attendance issues. The last time was at the end of the 2005 season and he was benched a game for being late to practices. This eventually led to a public blowup when a PBP reporter asked him about a closed-door meeting players were planning to hold on being late.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

Such a simplistic view. And one that paints Cabrera and all major league players are greedy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Players sign and refuse contracts for a number of reasons, not simply salary.

 

 

(And yes, prin, this is stating the obvious, but it seems some people forget the obvious when it's convenient)

 

Yes, I agree. Swift is known for making rather simplistic comments.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

Such a simplistic view. And one that paints Cabrera and all major league players are greedy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Players sign and refuse contracts for a number of reasons, not simply salary.

 

 

(And yes, prin, this is stating the obvious, but it seems some people forget the obvious when it's convenient)

 

Yes, I agree. Swift is known for making rather simplistic comments.

I like how people call the opinion simplistic, but no one refutes it logically.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

Such a simplistic view. And one that paints Cabrera and all major league players are greedy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Players sign and refuse contracts for a number of reasons, not simply salary.

 

 

(And yes, prin, this is stating the obvious, but it seems some people forget the obvious when it's convenient)

 

Yes, I agree. Swift is known for making rather simplistic comments.

I like how people call the opinion simplistic, but no one refutes it logically.

 

Rferry was simply saying that there are a bunch of factors that will influence Miggy's decision about where to sign long-term. Money, endorsement deals, the area in which he will play and live, etc., will all play a big role. Money is not the only factor. Granted, it's an important factor. But not the only one.

 

That is a rather obvious statement, in my opinion.

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Not to put words in his mouth, but I think Swift is saying that he's fearful this will initiate an adversarial relationship between Cabrera and management -- something we all want to avoid, if we want to see Cabrera in a Marlins uniform longterm.

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I believe that was kotsay's point. TSwift's was this is an example of an impending confrontation between Cabrera and the Marlins over money, not the feelings of mistrust and resentment that we saw in the case of Burnett. A review of the many Cabrera re-signing threads and his general pessimism of Loria's commitment to spending illustrates that.

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Swift basically made two points: 1) the point mirrored by Kotsay and 2) that Samson is waging a public relations war by speaking to the press so bluntly about Cabrera. He never said that it was leading to an all out confrontation.

 

From my perspective, there is no excuse for Samson to bring this into the public arena like this. You don't publicly hamstring your team's best player in the media. And from a purely business perspective, you do everything you can to let your best employee know that he's appreciated. He really needs to learn the words "no comment." Every time he opens his mouth he makes a good situation bad, or a bad situation worse.

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Swift basically made two points: 1) the point mirrored by Kotsay and 2) that Samson is waging a public relations war by speaking to the press so bluntly about Cabrera. He never said that it was leading to an all out confrontation.

Those are one and the same. The other point (and I argue the impetus for TSwift's agreement with kotsay), and one that he echoes throughout these threads, is that the impending rift between Cabrera and the Marlins will be over money.

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So you agree with markkotsay? That this arbitration hearing will ultimately DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins?

 

I find that hard to believe.

 

No, the only thing that will DIRECTLY result in Cabrera leaving the Marlins is Loria not opening his check-book.

 

This will be responsible for a rift between the two, especially if this pattern happens again next offseason. Bad feelings=no hometown discount=Miggy gone.

Such a simplistic view. And one that paints Cabrera and all major league players are greedy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Players sign and refuse contracts for a number of reasons, not simply salary.

 

 

(And yes, prin, this is stating the obvious, but it seems some people forget the obvious when it's convenient)

 

Yes, I agree. Swift is known for making rather simplistic comments.

I like how people call the opinion simplistic, but no one refutes it logically.

 

:whistle

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Swift basically made two points: 1) the point mirrored by Kotsay and 2) that Samson is waging a public relations war by speaking to the press so bluntly about Cabrera. He never said that it was leading to an all out confrontation.

Those are one and the same. The other point (and I argue the impetus for TSwift's agreement with kotsay), and one that he echoes throughout these threads, is that the impending rift between Cabrera and the Marlins will be over money.

At this point we're quibbling over nothing. When you said "Kotsay's point" I thought you were referring to his assertion that the arbitration hearing itself will ultimately result in bad relations between the two parties. In the other point, I interpreted Swift's comment to mean that bringing the arbitration dispute into the public arena will be what ultimately damages the relationship, not just the hearing alone. It's a subtle distintion, but a valid one.

 

Personally, I'm unconvinced that merely going to arbitration will end in a rift between Cabrera's camp and the FO. I believe that publicly bashing your best player, though, could have some drastic effects on the FO's relationship with him. Samson changed this from being a behind closed-doors conflict, to a public character assasination. If this was the only instance where he's irrationally spoken to the press about issues that should be handled in a subtler manner, than maybe I'd forgive him. But this isn't even the first time this week he's done it. As I see it, the best thing for this franchise it to remove Samson from having any public authority. Turn him into the assistant to the travelling secretary, and pay him whatever they want, but just muzzle him.

 

In anticipation for the argument that Cabrera brought this upon himself by not showing up to fanfest, I will say this: it is Cabrera's job to look out for his personal interest, not the team's. Samson's job is to protect the welfare of the entire organization, now and in the future. And in the long run, publicly denouncing the team's most valuable player conflicts with that goal. If handled correctly, the team can turn Cabrera into an iconic figure in Marlins' history. Let's remember that sports are essentially about people. People relate to other people, and therefore a key to a franchise's success is to cultivate, promote, and keep players to whom fans will flock. Why would someone of Cabrera's rare and valuable talent want to ultimately sign long-term with this organization when they carry on business in this manner?

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I think you are wildly over-exaggerating.

 

Like Miguel is the first superstar to go to arbitration.

 

No, just the first one that has the FO ready to wage a public relations war over such an insignificant amount of money.

 

I heard on ESPN radio 790 that Cabs is asking to be traded. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

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I think you are wildly over-exaggerating.

 

Like Miguel is the first superstar to go to arbitration.

 

No, just the first one that has the FO ready to wage a public relations war over such an insignificant amount of money.

 

I heard on ESPN radio 790 that Cabs is asking to be traded. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

 

 

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