Think more fans will show up for the next homestand?

[all black marlins hat]

So what do you guys think? We have seemed to convince the guys at ESPN, think South Floridians will believe in the fish yet?

[FishFanPR]

I'm not from FLA but I highly doubt that more fans will show up. Increased attendance encompasses a series of factors; it's not just about winning or signing players. Did the fans show up when we signed Delgado? nope...did the fans show up in 06 when we were in the WC chase? nope...if we're still in the thick of things by July, then things may start improving, but at this point I doubt we'll see a significant impact on attendance.

[all black marlins hat]

Well, I wasn't referring to the Bandwagoneers that show up when they're really winning. I was aiming towards current fans that just don't go out to the stadium, and watch from home.

[Puma]

Nope.

[miamibaseball]

we need to be on top in aug to get more in ballpark even when we in wc chase in 2006 we were not getting alot people in park

[LordMagnus]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

[all black marlins hat]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

 

I was thinking this yesterday. There aren't many real true Marlins fans, because it's not a very old team. I'm a real fan because I was a fan since I was a kid at 8 years old. Hopefully my generation of Marlins fans would introduce their children to this great team so that the fan population would increase over the years. That's the only way I would see REAL fans. Fans that stick up for their team through the good, and the bad. Not just bandwagon fans that come about when they're winning.

[fishfan25]

i say if the fish stay where they are....by about mid-july, the "fans" will show...

 

next homestand and the one after that and the one after that....same thing were used to.

 

a lot of empty seats that make me very sad when they show camera shots of the stadium, bunch of empty orange seats.

then hearing or seeing the attendence being around 12-13 thousand

[mk613]

don't think attendance will improve much unless we get to the playoffs then the other "fans" will finally show up

[Rabbethan]

a lot of empty seats that make me very sad when they show camera shots of the stadium, bunch of empty orange seats.

then hearing or seeing the attendence being around 12-13 thousand

Well, playing in the DS doesn't make it any better. Even 30,000 fans leaves 30,000 orange seats.

[marlins2011]

My only team ever has been the florida marlins, iv been watching them since 1993. Have u ever thought that maybe, just maybe, the fans down there in south florida are just too lazy to get to the stadium. Seems to me, being that the Marlins have the highest tv ratings, that people in florida just perfer to pop them selves on a chair with a bucket of peanuts, popcorn and diet coke next to them, with the A/C on full blast. I dont think fans wil say to them selves, (oh!! lets go to see the marlins b/c they are gonna pay a player 70,000,000)

 

I know what will get Fans to the stadium on a regular basis. THE NEW STADIUM!!............. with A/C

[Schnellders]

im hoping to make the 1st game at the new stadium my 1st ever marlins game

[Mungo]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

 

Maybe a bit.....but people, especially on this board, underestimate the effect that stadium has on attendance. Its just about impossible to get to that stadium for a 7pm game during the week. IIRC the starting time the 1st two years of the franchise was 7:30 pm. We drew more than 2 million each of those years. I'm not sure about all the other stadiums, but the majority of MLB stadia are not more than just a few miles of the attending population. I live in central Miami-Dade County, and Dolphin Stadium is 30 miles from my front door. Ridiculous, when I can watch it on TV, especially with gas prices & parking fees. That is just the way it is. Why try to rush, rush, rush to get to the ballpark from work or have to ask to leave work early, and God forbid I have to stay a few minutes to finish something at work. Why do all that when I can go home and watch on the TV ?

 

It is THE STADIUM and where it is located. I am certain this will change when the new ballpark is in place, closer to the population. People on this board have to realize its so many factors as well, including the the instability of the ownership, lack of committment (in the past) from management. Take 2 years ago when Girardi had them close to contending.....did mangement step up to the plate and try to win that year ? What trades made the team better ? Did they aquire a pitcher to help the young team out NO. And the team wilted in August & September.

 

There is just no faith by whatever fans are left, and even myself, I am still not convinced that Hanley is now just a very tradable asset when he is signed, and not the cornerstone of the franchise. The actions of this ownership in the past make me very wary, and that will never change. They fooled us once, and they will never regain that trust completely.

 

Look at the posters on this board, and this is another factor, how many of them LIVE in South Fla ? Maybe 30-40 % ? Maybe 50 % ? Go to a Cincinnati Reds board.....perhaps 80-90 % live in the Cincy area ? Face facts people, Miami-Dade County is not the choice of a lot of people anylonger. I am a Miami native, being born here in 1960, and graduating from HS in 1978. In 2003 we had our 25th reunion and I was on the reunion committee, and had to call many of our old classmates to encourage them to come, just over 150 of the 856 in our class STILL LIVE IN MIAMI ! Then when you call and many of the out of towners, they tell you out loud "I wouldn't go back to Miami in a million years, not even for a visit" you get the idea folks......the people that used to be the backbone of Miami, and the ones who could have been turned into loyal Marlins fans, are just not living here anymore.

 

Now this is just the perspective from a Miami-Dade County resident. I can't excuse the Broward County residents, that have ZERO excuse about the stadium distance for them to get to the games. Most of your Broward residents live within a 15-20 minute drive, so the onus is on them for the recent attendance record.

 

I am just tired of people on this board who continually complain about the attendance, yet live outside of Miami. Then COME LIVE HERE you a-hole b*stards, and stop with the complaints. If you don't want to live here, and make the Marlins attendance better, then STFU !!!!! Who the hell are you people to sit back and complain about others, when you are not helping the attendance yourself, by living here and going to a majority of games. Damn that PO's me more than anything. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

[Mungo]

My only team ever has been the florida marlins, iv been watching them since 1993. Have u ever thought that maybe, just maybe, the fans down there in south florida are just too lazy to get to the stadium. Seems to me, being that the Marlins have the highest tv ratings, that people in florida just perfer to pop them selves on a chair with a bucket of peanuts, popcorn and diet coke next to them, with the A/C on full blast. I dont think fans wil say to them selves, (oh!! lets go to see the marlins b/c they are gonna pay a player 70,000,000)

 

I know what will get Fans to the stadium on a regular basis. THE NEW STADIUM!!............. with A/C

 

Why aren't you living here ? How dare you complain about others, unless you walk in their shoes. If you don't choose to live in South Fla, and be one of those people at the stadium then STFU :mad :mad :mad

[BroncoBob27]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

 

Maybe a bit.....but people, especially on this board, underestimate the effect that stadium has on attendance. Its just about impossible to get to that stadium for a 7pm game during the week. IIRC the starting time the 1st two years of the franchise was 7:30 pm. We drew more than 2 million each of those years. I'm not sure about all the other stadiums, but the majority of MLB stadia are not more than just a few miles of the attending population. I live in central Miami-Dade County, and Dolphin Stadium is 30 miles from my front door. Ridiculous, when I can watch it on TV, especially with gas prices & parking fees. That is just the way it is. Why try to rush, rush, rush to get to the ballpark from work or have to ask to leave work early, and God forbid I have to stay a few minutes to finish something at work. Why do all that when I can go home and watch on the TV ?

 

It is THE STADIUM and where it is located. I am certain this will change when the new ballpark is in place, closer to the population. People on this board have to realize its so many factors as well, including the the instability of the ownership, lack of committment (in the past) from management. Take 2 years ago when Girardi had them close to contending.....did mangement step up to the plate and try to win that year ? What trades made the team better ? Did they aquire a pitcher to help the young team out NO. And the team wilted in August & September.

 

There is just no faith by whatever fans are left, and even myself, I am still not convinced that Hanley is now just a very tradable asset when he is signed, and not the cornerstone of the franchise. The actions of this ownership in the past make me very wary, and that will never change. They fooled us once, and they will never regain that trust completely.

 

Look at the posters on this board, and this is another factor, how many of them LIVE in South Fla ? Maybe 30-40 % ? Maybe 50 % ? Go to a Cincinnati Reds board.....perhaps 80-90 % live in the Cincy area ? Face facts people, Miami-Dade County is not the choice of a lot of people anylonger. I am a Miami native, being born here in 1960, and graduating from HS in 1978. In 2003 we had our 25th reunion and I was on the reunion committee, and had to call many of our old classmates to encourage them to come, just over 150 of the 856 in our class STILL LIVE IN MIAMI ! Then when you call and many of the out of towners, they tell you out loud "I wouldn't go back to Miami in a million years, not even for a visit" you get the idea folks......the people that used to be the backbone of Miami, and the ones who could have been turned into loyal Marlins fans, are just not living here anymore.

 

Now this is just the perspective from a Miami-Dade County resident. I can't excuse the Broward County residents, that have ZERO excuse about the stadium distance for them to get to the games. Most of your Broward residents live within a 15-20 minute drive, so the onus is on them for the recent attendance record.

 

I am just tired of people on this board who continually complain about the attendance, yet live outside of Miami. Then COME LIVE HERE you a-hole b*stards, and stop with the complaints. If you don't want to live here, and make the Marlins attendance better, then STFU !!!!! Who the hell are you people to sit back and complain about others, when you are not helping the attendance yourself, by living here and going to a majority of games. Damn that PO's me more than anything. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

 

Being a PBC resident and regular visitor to that secluded and unaccesable stadium, I have been saying the same exact thing about you Miami-Dade residents. So take your own advice.

[BroncoBob27]

But in reply to the topic of this thread...

 

I sure hope not. I love being able to get into my car and drive directly onto the turnpike immediatly following a game. Traffic jams bore me.

[fauowls44]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

 

Maybe a bit.....but people, especially on this board, underestimate the effect that stadium has on attendance. Its just about impossible to get to that stadium for a 7pm game during the week. IIRC the starting time the 1st two years of the franchise was 7:30 pm. We drew more than 2 million each of those years. I'm not sure about all the other stadiums, but the majority of MLB stadia are not more than just a few miles of the attending population. I live in central Miami-Dade County, and Dolphin Stadium is 30 miles from my front door. Ridiculous, when I can watch it on TV, especially with gas prices & parking fees. That is just the way it is. Why try to rush, rush, rush to get to the ballpark from work or have to ask to leave work early, and God forbid I have to stay a few minutes to finish something at work. Why do all that when I can go home and watch on the TV ?

 

It is THE STADIUM and where it is located. I am certain this will change when the new ballpark is in place, closer to the population. People on this board have to realize its so many factors as well, including the the instability of the ownership, lack of committment (in the past) from management. Take 2 years ago when Girardi had them close to contending.....did mangement step up to the plate and try to win that year ? What trades made the team better ? Did they aquire a pitcher to help the young team out NO. And the team wilted in August & September.

 

There is just no faith by whatever fans are left, and even myself, I am still not convinced that Hanley is now just a very tradable asset when he is signed, and not the cornerstone of the franchise. The actions of this ownership in the past make me very wary, and that will never change. They fooled us once, and they will never regain that trust completely.

 

When were you fooled by this ownership group? I think they have pretty much stuck to their plan all along. You can not like the plan, but that doesn't mean that they have deceived you in any way. They have said all along that they want players out performing their contracts, they like young, cheap, talent under their financial control, they will spend what makes sense in repsect to their revenues, no player is untradable for the right price, and they will add payroll when they think they are close to contending. They have been quite sucessful with this plan. They won a World Series and have had multiple competitive seasons on a tight budget. If they had a book written about them, like the A's, they'd be considered brilliant, instead they are just considered cheap.

[Marlins2003]

The current stadium location is less accessible to 60%+ of the Miami-Dade population than it is to the rest of South Florida and therein lies the problem.

[JetsMania]

Another attendance thread... wonderful.

 

We'll atleast it doesnt matter if the fans dont show up anymore. Marlins are getting a new stadium in 3 years and at that point there wont be any excuses for poor attendance.

[estan ganando los marlins]

The current stadium location is less accessible to 60%+ of the Miami-Dade population than it is to the rest of South Florida and therein lies the problem.

 

How do you figure? IMO Little Havana has much more potential in bringing in more fans to the stadium than does Opa Locka. Not to mention, people can get to the new location much easier using public transportation than they can to get to DS. Not much better, but you are not that far from downtown and more people use public transportation to get in and out of that area of Miami than they do to get in and out of Opa Locka. I don't see your point.

[Retro_Marlins25]

The current stadium location is less accessible to 60%+ of the Miami-Dade population than it is to the rest of South Florida and therein lies the problem.

 

How do you figure? IMO Little Havana has much more potential in bringing in more fans to the stadium than does Opa Locka. Not to mention, people can get to the new location much easier using public transportation than they can to get to DS. Not much better, but you are not that far from downtown and more people use public transportation to get in and out of that area of Miami than they do to get in and out of Opa Locka. I don't see your point.

Little Havana fans dont know the game.

[Marlins2003]

The current stadium location is less accessible to 60%+ of the Miami-Dade population than it is to the rest of South Florida and therein lies the problem.

 

How do you figure? IMO Little Havana has much more potential in bringing in more fans to the stadium than does Opa Locka. Not to mention, people can get to the new location much easier using public transportation than they can to get to DS. Not much better, but you are not that far from downtown and more people use public transportation to get in and out of that area of Miami than they do to get in and out of Opa Locka. I don't see your point.

 

 

I was referring to the CURRENT stadium, Dolphin Stadium not the "proposed" Orange Bowl location.

[LordMagnus]

The current stadium location is less accessible to 60%+ of the Miami-Dade population than it is to the rest of South Florida and therein lies the problem.

 

How do you figure? IMO Little Havana has much more potential in bringing in more fans to the stadium than does Opa Locka. Not to mention, people can get to the new location much easier using public transportation than they can to get to DS. Not much better, but you are not that far from downtown and more people use public transportation to get in and out of that area of Miami than they do to get in and out of Opa Locka. I don't see your point.

Little Havana fans dont know the game.

 

That's how it is in all cities/ballparks. The majority of people in the stadium are never 100 percent die hard fans. But you need these casual fans to fill up the ballpark. You know, the fans who claim to be a fan for 20 years but probably couldn't name more than two players on the team.

[Puma]

Hopefully attendance will get better. This is still a relatively young franchise, and most of the existing populous were fans of other teams already. Here's hoping we are getting generations of Marlins fans raised in Florida, because that's really what builds a fanbase - time and a track record of excellent, entertaining baseball.

 

Maybe a bit.....but people, especially on this board, underestimate the effect that stadium has on attendance. Its just about impossible to get to that stadium for a 7pm game during the week. IIRC the starting time the 1st two years of the franchise was 7:30 pm. We drew more than 2 million each of those years. I'm not sure about all the other stadiums, but the majority of MLB stadia are not more than just a few miles of the attending population. I live in central Miami-Dade County, and Dolphin Stadium is 30 miles from my front door. Ridiculous, when I can watch it on TV, especially with gas prices & parking fees. That is just the way it is. Why try to rush, rush, rush to get to the ballpark from work or have to ask to leave work early, and God forbid I have to stay a few minutes to finish something at work. Why do all that when I can go home and watch on the TV ?

 

It is THE STADIUM and where it is located. I am certain this will change when the new ballpark is in place, closer to the population. People on this board have to realize its so many factors as well, including the the instability of the ownership, lack of committment (in the past) from management. Take 2 years ago when Girardi had them close to contending.....did mangement step up to the plate and try to win that year ? What trades made the team better ? Did they aquire a pitcher to help the young team out NO. And the team wilted in August & September.

 

There is just no faith by whatever fans are left, and even myself, I am still not convinced that Hanley is now just a very tradable asset when he is signed, and not the cornerstone of the franchise. The actions of this ownership in the past make me very wary, and that will never change. They fooled us once, and they will never regain that trust completely.

 

Look at the posters on this board, and this is another factor, how many of them LIVE in South Fla ? Maybe 30-40 % ? Maybe 50 % ? Go to a Cincinnati Reds board.....perhaps 80-90 % live in the Cincy area ? Face facts people, Miami-Dade County is not the choice of a lot of people anylonger. I am a Miami native, being born here in 1960, and graduating from HS in 1978. In 2003 we had our 25th reunion and I was on the reunion committee, and had to call many of our old classmates to encourage them to come, just over 150 of the 856 in our class STILL LIVE IN MIAMI ! Then when you call and many of the out of towners, they tell you out loud "I wouldn't go back to Miami in a million years, not even for a visit" you get the idea folks......the people that used to be the backbone of Miami, and the ones who could have been turned into loyal Marlins fans, are just not living here anymore.

 

Now this is just the perspective from a Miami-Dade County resident. I can't excuse the Broward County residents, that have ZERO excuse about the stadium distance for them to get to the games. Most of your Broward residents live within a 15-20 minute drive, so the onus is on them for the recent attendance record.

 

I am just tired of people on this board who continually complain about the attendance, yet live outside of Miami. Then COME LIVE HERE you a-hole b*stards, and stop with the complaints. If you don't want to live here, and make the Marlins attendance better, then STFU !!!!! Who the hell are you people to sit back and complain about others, when you are not helping the attendance yourself, by living here and going to a majority of games. Damn that PO's me more than anything. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

 

:blink:

[Mungo]

Being a PBC resident and regular visitor to that secluded and unaccesable stadium, I have been saying the same exact thing about you Miami-Dade residents. So take your own advice.

 

As usual, you don't get it Bob. Miami-Dade residents have as hard a time making it to the stadium as any PBC resident. I was mainly targeting Broward residents who have ZERO problems getting there, and to those that choose to live OUTSIDE of South Fla. You just never get it do you ?