Lane1974 Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 the Ben Sheets thread got me curious, here is a list of pitchers who could be or will be free agents after this year, according to MLBtraderumors.com I think we could make a move for an expiring guy like these if we are in contention in the next month or so and the cost in players giving up isn't too prohibitive Starting pitchers Jeremy Affeldt (30) Tony Armas Jr. (31) Kris Benson (33) A.J. Burnett (32) - can opt out after '08 season Paul Byrd (38) Roger Clemens (46) Matt Clement (33) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout Ryan Dempster (32) Chad Durbin (31) Josh Fogg (32) Jon Garland (29) Tom Glavine (43) Mike Hampton (36) Mark Hendrickson (35) Livan Hernandez (34) Orlando Hernandez (43) Jason Jennings (30) Randy Johnson (45) John Lackey (30) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $0.5MM buyout Jon Lieber (39) Esteban Loaiza (37) - $7.5MM club option for '09 with a $0.375MM buyout Braden Looper (34) Derek Lowe (36) Greg Maddux (43) Pedro Martinez (37) Matt Morris (34) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout Jamie Moyer (46) Mark Mulder (31) - $11MM club option for '09 with a $1.5MM buyout Mike Mussina (40) Carl Pavano (33) - $13MM club option for '09 with a $1.95MM buyout Brad Penny (31) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $2MM buyout Odalis Perez (32) Oliver Perez (27) Andy Pettitte (37) Mark Prior (27) Kenny Rogers (44) C.C. Sabathia (28) Curt Schilling (42) Ben Sheets (30) John Smoltz (42) - $12MM club option for '09 Brett Tomko (36) Josh Towers (32) Steve Trachsel (38) Tim Wakefield (42) - perpetual $4MM club option Kip Wells (32) Woody Williams (42) Randy Wolf (32) Closers Joe Borowski (38) Ryan Dempster (32) Brian Fuentes (33) Eric Gagne (33) Trevor Hoffman (41) Jason Isringhausen (36) Todd Jones (41) Brad Lidge (32) Brandon Lyon (29) Al Reyes (38) Francisco Rodriguez (27) Middle relievers Jeremy Affeldt (30) Doug Brocail (42) - club option for '09 Shawn Chacon (31) Juan Cruz (28) Alan Embree (39) - $3MM club option for '09 Scott Eyre (37) Kyle Farnsworth (33) Keith Foulke (35) Aaron Fultz (35) Tom Gordon (41) - $4.5MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout Eddie Guardado (38) LaTroy Hawkins (36) Matt Herges (39) - club option for '09 Bob Howry (35) Steve Kline (36) Damaso Marte (34) - $6MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout Trever Miller (36) - $2MM club option for '09 with a $0.4MM buyout Guillermo Mota (35) Will Ohman (31) Darren Oliver (38) Dennys Reyes (32) Juan Rincon (30) Russ Springer (40) Mike Stanton (42) Mike Timlin (43) Salomon Torres (37) - $3.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout David Weathers (39) Dan Wheeler (31) Matt Wise (33) Kerry Wood (32) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Bring back Herges! Just Kidding guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordMagnus Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It sure would be nice to get that Rodriguez kid as a closer, but he's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchingWinsGames Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It sure would be nice to get that Rodriguez kid as a closer, but he's not going anywhere. I had to sell my soul for them to sign Hanley... I got nothing left for K-Rod :whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all black marlins hat Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 the Ben Sheets thread got me curious, here is a list of pitchers who could be or will be free agents after this year, according to MLBtraderumors.com I think we could make a move for an expiring guy like these if we are in contention in the next month or so and the cost in players giving up isn't too prohibitive Starting pitchers Jeremy Affeldt (30) Tony Armas Jr. (31) Kris Benson (33) A.J. Burnett (32) - can opt out after '08 season Paul Byrd (38) Roger Clemens (46) Matt Clement (33) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout Ryan Dempster (32) Chad Durbin (31) Josh Fogg (32) Jon Garland (29) Tom Glavine (43) Mike Hampton (36) Mark Hendrickson (35) Livan Hernandez (34) Orlando Hernandez (43) Jason Jennings (30) Randy Johnson (45) John Lackey (30) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $0.5MM buyout Jon Lieber (39) Esteban Loaiza (37) - $7.5MM club option for '09 with a $0.375MM buyout Braden Looper (34) Derek Lowe (36) Greg Maddux (43) Pedro Martinez (37) Matt Morris (34) - $9MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout Jamie Moyer (46) Mark Mulder (31) - $11MM club option for '09 with a $1.5MM buyout Mike Mussina (40) Carl Pavano (33) - $13MM club option for '09 with a $1.95MM buyout Brad Penny (31) - $8.75MM club option for '09 with a $2MM buyout Odalis Perez (32) Oliver Perez (27) Andy Pettitte (37) Mark Prior (27) Kenny Rogers (44) C.C. Sabathia (28) Curt Schilling (42) Ben Sheets (30) John Smoltz (42) - $12MM club option for '09 Brett Tomko (36) Josh Towers (32) Steve Trachsel (38) Tim Wakefield (42) - perpetual $4MM club option Kip Wells (32) Woody Williams (42) Randy Wolf (32) Closers Joe Borowski (38) Ryan Dempster (32) Brian Fuentes (33) Eric Gagne (33) Trevor Hoffman (41) Jason Isringhausen (36) Todd Jones (41) Brad Lidge (32) Brandon Lyon (29) Al Reyes (38) Francisco Rodriguez (27) Middle relievers Jeremy Affeldt (30) Doug Brocail (42) - club option for '09 Shawn Chacon (31) Juan Cruz (28) Alan Embree (39) - $3MM club option for '09 Scott Eyre (37) Kyle Farnsworth (33) Keith Foulke (35) Aaron Fultz (35) Tom Gordon (41) - $4.5MM club option for '09 with a $1MM buyout Eddie Guardado (38) LaTroy Hawkins (36) Matt Herges (39) - club option for '09 Bob Howry (35) Steve Kline (36) Damaso Marte (34) - $6MM club option for '09 with a $0.25MM buyout Trever Miller (36) - $2MM club option for '09 with a $0.4MM buyout Guillermo Mota (35) Will Ohman (31) Darren Oliver (38) Dennys Reyes (32) Juan Rincon (30) Russ Springer (40) Mike Stanton (42) Mike Timlin (43) Salomon Torres (37) - $3.75MM club option for '09 with a $0.3MM buyout David Weathers (39) Dan Wheeler (31) Matt Wise (33) Kerry Wood (32) They definitely need to strike a deal for that guy!........ oh wait................... lol :whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30plus Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I really like Burnett, but I don't know if the logistics will allow him to be a Marlin again :confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costabear Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Aside from CC Sabathia and Ben Sheets and some of the Club option guys, which aren't going anywhere, I think we're better off bringing up the young kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'd love to have Maddux and I don't think he'd cost much in term of specs but at the same time I also don't think we should make a move for a pitcher considering how much depth we'll have in just a matter of weeks now. Our biggest problem is still behind the plate. And considering that's a problem for most teams, it's not that big of one to have. Getting an above average CF (aka not Jones or Edmonds) would help aswell, expecially one who could lead off. Still can't help thinking about a Lofton/Cody platoon...if we're still like this in June and he hasn't gotten any other offers, could he break down and take the pay cut and play for a non-big market team? I actually think the biggest problem is the perception that the Marlins are a horrible team, not the money, and he wants a ring. And the only above average CFer that's a FA at the end of the year is Milton Bradley. I'd love to have him, but he makes too much money and then you have to look at the cost of the spec if Texas eats most of his money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinStadiumCrazie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Let's sign Matt Hampton to a huge contract, he deserves it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piazza31 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I don't know if the Marlins would Invite him back the way he went out. (Burnett that is). I wouldnt Mind seeing Livan, Burnett or Sheets coming to town (or back to town). Sheets is a stud when healthy. Burnetts got the fire, Sheets the stuff, and livan the experiance. Could be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yessir Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 We have JJ and Anibal due post AS break, and I like them two over a lot of what's on that starters list. The guy I would give something up for even though he has some injury issues is Rich Harden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBCMarlinsFan Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Why sign a FA pitcher after this season? By that time, JJ, Mitre, and Anibal should be good to go. Not to mention Volstad may be ready for the show. Throw in Olsen and Miller and you have six viable SP options right there. Our bullpen is also set. There will be no need to dip into the FA pitching market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane1974 Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 not sign a FA pitcher, trade for a veteran guy who is going to be a FA Maddux could pay dividends down the road if he mentors the young guys, that could be invaluable AJ burned his bridges here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It sure would be nice to get that Rodriguez kid as a closer, but he's not going anywhere. wow...and you guys complain about Gregg? KRod basically does the same thing...except people actually think KRod is dominant. His stats the past year and a half definitely don't suggest it, though. For that, I'd rather have Gregg, and gain on an actual weakness. Or trade Gregg, and build a closer from within (and we have many options there, with all the hard throwers in the pen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins R #1 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It sure would be nice to get that Rodriguez kid as a closer, but he's not going anywhere. wow...and you guys complain about Gregg? KRod basically does the same thing...except people actually think KRod is dominant. His stats the past year and a half definitely don't suggest it, though. For that, I'd rather have Gregg, and gain on an actual weakness. Or trade Gregg, and build a closer from within (and we have many options there, with all the hard throwers in the pen). Right now I wouldnt want to trade anyone away IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It sure would be nice to get that Rodriguez kid as a closer, but he's not going anywhere. wow...and you guys complain about Gregg? KRod basically does the same thing...except people actually think KRod is dominant. His stats the past year and a half definitely don't suggest it, though. For that, I'd rather have Gregg, and gain on an actual weakness. Or trade Gregg, and build a closer from within (and we have many options there, with all the hard throwers in the pen). Right now I wouldnt want to trade anyone away IMO. I'm talking after the season...Gregg is replaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins R #1 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Tru. Proabably would be the smart thing to do since he really has no place on this team in the future and he may have some value on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think you guys are missing the point the original poster was trying to make. These are pitchers we might want to look into renting for the rest of 2008, get them on the cheap and pick up some draft picks if/when they sign with another team in 09. Good strategy, we badly need a veteran SP who can give us innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Altamonte Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Let's sign Matt Hampton to a huge contract, he deserves it... Fine with me as long as we don't sign "Mike" Hampton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think you guys are missing the point the original poster was trying to make. These are pitchers we might want to look into renting for the rest of 2008, get them on the cheap and pick up some draft picks if/when they sign with another team in 09. Good strategy, we badly need a veteran SP who can give us innings. I happen to think that Miller and Badenhop will get the job done, and unless you are talking about getting a good pitcher from a failing team, for a low price, then I would not be interested. The last thing we need is a pile of crap to fill some innings for the sake of filling some innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think you guys are missing the point the original poster was trying to make. These are pitchers we might want to look into renting for the rest of 2008, get them on the cheap and pick up some draft picks if/when they sign with another team in 09. Good strategy, we badly need a veteran SP who can give us innings. unless you are talking about getting a good pitcher from a failing team, for a low price, then I would not be interested. The last thing we need is a pile of crap to fill some innings for the sake of filling some innings. Actually, yea... I was talking about us bringing in a pile of crap at pitcher, so...I guess my point is null and void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think you guys are missing the point the original poster was trying to make. These are pitchers we might want to look into renting for the rest of 2008, get them on the cheap and pick up some draft picks if/when they sign with another team in 09. Good strategy, we badly need a veteran SP who can give us innings. Yeah, I still think it's too early. I don't think we'll know until the end of June if this team is for real or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Actually, yea... I was talking about us bringing in a pile of crap at pitcher, so...I guess my point is null and void. Pick the guy on that list, who is on a team that will not be in contention in July, that you would want. Then understand that the options suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PitchingWinsGames Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Honestly, the only possible name on that list that vaguely intrigues me is Greg Maddux... that's it... in none of the othe cases are the ends worth the means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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