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And how fitting .... he pitches a 3 hit CG shutout to get it.

 

Barring any major injuries, he will get another 150 wins atleast and will be a sure lock for the hall of fame before his career is over. Thanks for the World Series championship and good luck with the rest of your career.

And how fitting .... he pitches a 3 hit CG shutout to get it.

 

Barring any major injuries, he will get another 150 wins atleast and will be a sure lock for the hall of fame before his career is over. Thanks for the World Series championship and good luck with the rest of your career.

 

HOF? He's not even one of the better pitchers in the AL. He's easily one of the most overrated ones though. This is only his second good season since ending up in Boston.

Every time I think of Josh Beckett, all I can think about are blisters...

I'll be tough to get 250 wins. That's a lot with the five-man rotation and the increased use of the bullpen. The 250 wins now is the equivalent of maybe 350 in the old days. It would be pretty cool if Beckett, Burnett and Penny all get to 200. I would bet on Beckett making the HOF if he stays healthy.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

And how fitting .... he pitches a 3 hit CG shutout to get it

Yeah, it was Game 6 esque. I didn't realize it was his 100th win though.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

 

 

Can't say I agree with this statement. Now, if you were saying "Such and such player only made the All-Star team because he plays for the Yankees", that's understandable since it's the fans who vote for All-Stars. But the people who cast Hall of Fame votes (the writers) are generally fair and practical in their voting.

I'll be tough to get 250 wins. That's a lot with the five-man rotation and the increased use of the bullpen. The 250 wins now is the equivalent of maybe 350 in the old days. It would be pretty cool if Beckett, Burnett and Penny all get to 200. I would bet on Beckett making the HOF if he stays healthy.

 

 

That is a little extreme.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

 

 

Can't say I agree with this statement. Now, if you were saying "Such and such player only made the All-Star team because he plays for the Yankees", that's understandable since it's the fans who vote for All-Stars. But the people who cast Hall of Fame votes (the writers) are generally fair and practical in their voting.

 

 

The fans didn't vote for Wakefield, and the only reason he made it was because he plays in Boston.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

 

 

Can't say I agree with this statement. Now, if you were saying "Such and such player only made the All-Star team because he plays for the Yankees", that's understandable since it's the fans who vote for All-Stars. But the people who cast Hall of Fame votes (the writers) are generally fair and practical in their voting.

 

 

The fans didn't vote for Wakefield, and the only reason he made it was because he plays in Boston.

 

So you think the players, managers, coaches, etc. voted for Wakefield because he plays in Boston? They have no reason to. He got in because he had 10 wins (I'm not saying wins are good measurement of performance, but people in baseball do), and throws a deceptive knuckle ball. Not because he plays in Boston.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

 

 

Can't say I agree with this statement. Now, if you were saying "Such and such player only made the All-Star team because he plays for the Yankees", that's understandable since it's the fans who vote for All-Stars. But the people who cast Hall of Fame votes (the writers) are generally fair and practical in their voting.

 

 

The fans didn't vote for Wakefield, and the only reason he made it was because he plays in Boston.

 

So you think the players, managers, coaches, etc. voted for Wakefield because he plays in Boston? They have no reason to. He got in because he had 10 wins (I'm not saying wins are good measurement of performance, but people in baseball do), and throws a deceptive knuckle ball. Not because he plays in Boston.

 

 

If Wakefield played in Kansas City for his entire career, no one would have heard of him. His numbers this year aren't even close to all-star worthy, even if some people like to count wins. But, since he plays for the Red Sox, people know the name, so they put him in.

If he stays healthy, and in Boston, he'll get to at least 200. He can win 16-20 games easily with that offense.

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I'm not sure if they take into account playoff victories, series MVP's, etc. The fact is Beckett is a great pitcher under pressure and already has 3 world series rings, and was a major contributor to all 3. A couple of more world series rings and another 150 wins (which he will most likely get) and I think he should be a lock for the HOF.

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I'm not sure if they take into account playoff victories, series MVP's, etc. The fact is Beckett is a great pitcher under pressure and already has 3 world series rings, and was a major contributor to all 3. A couple of more world series rings and another 150 wins (which he will most likely get) and I think he should be a lock for the HOF.

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I'm not sure if they take into account playoff victories, series MVP's, etc. The fact is Beckett is a great pitcher under pressure and already has 3 world series rings, and was a major contributor to all 3. A couple of more world series rings and another 150 wins (which he will most likely get) and I think he should be a lock for the HOF.

If Beckett someday makes the HOF it's only because he was a Red Sock. The only AL pitchers that have HOF potential are Rivera, Smoltz, and Halladay. Beckett doesnt come anywhere close to any of them.

 

 

Can't say I agree with this statement. Now, if you were saying "Such and such player only made the All-Star team because he plays for the Yankees", that's understandable since it's the fans who vote for All-Stars. But the people who cast Hall of Fame votes (the writers) are generally fair and practical in their voting.

 

 

The fans didn't vote for Wakefield, and the only reason he made it was because he plays in Boston.

 

So you think the players, managers, coaches, etc. voted for Wakefield because he plays in Boston? They have no reason to. He got in because he had 10 wins (I'm not saying wins are good measurement of performance, but people in baseball do), and throws a deceptive knuckle ball. Not because he plays in Boston.

 

 

If Wakefield played in Kansas City for his entire career, no one would have heard of him. His numbers this year aren't even close to all-star worthy, even if some people like to count wins. But, since he plays for the Red Sox, people know the name, so they put him in.

Uh, people had already heard of him before he got to Boston, when he came up in 1992 he became Pittsburgh's ace, even winning two in the NLCS that year. Also people would know who he is because he throws a pitch that only a handful of players throw and there don't appear to any more of them on the horizon. Also back to original post congrats to Beckett, I'm sure he would have thought he would have 100 wins before this time, but thats just the big Texas talking in him.

Uh, people had already heard of him before he got to Boston, when he came up in 1992 he became Pittsburgh's ace, even winning two in the NLCS that year. Also people would know who he is because he throws a pitch that only a handful of players throw and there don't appear to any more of them on the horizon. Also back to original post congrats to Beckett, I'm sure he would have thought he would have 100 wins before this time, but thats just the big Texas talking in him.

 

 

 

I don't know what "ace" you're talking about. When he got called up in '92, he only had 13 starts. The next year (his last year in Pittsburgh) he had a 5.61 ERA and a 1.71 WHIP in 20 starts. Some people might have heard of him regardless of where he played because he throws a knuckleball, but he wouldn't have been nearly as famous or popular as he is now.

Uh, people had already heard of him before he got to Boston, when he came up in 1992 he became Pittsburgh's ace, even winning two in the NLCS that year. Also people would know who he is because he throws a pitch that only a handful of players throw and there don't appear to any more of them on the horizon. Also back to original post congrats to Beckett, I'm sure he would have thought he would have 100 wins before this time, but thats just the big Texas talking in him.

 

 

 

I don't know what "ace" you're talking about. When he got called up in '92, he only had 13 starts. The next year (his last year in Pittsburgh) he had a 5.61 ERA and a 1.71 WHIP in 20 starts. Some people might have heard of him regardless of where he played because he throws a knuckleball, but he wouldn't have been nearly as famous or popular as he is now.

The ace that in 1992 went 8-1 with a 2 somethin ERA,and again went 2-0 in the playoffs for the Pirates, true he lost his touch with the knuckleball in 93-94 but has rebounded to have a solid career after working with Niekro, as for famous or populaar he would have attained this regardless where he pitched

Uh, people had already heard of him before he got to Boston, when he came up in 1992 he became Pittsburgh's ace, even winning two in the NLCS that year. Also people would know who he is because he throws a pitch that only a handful of players throw and there don't appear to any more of them on the horizon. Also back to original post congrats to Beckett, I'm sure he would have thought he would have 100 wins before this time, but thats just the big Texas talking in him.

 

 

 

I don't know what "ace" you're talking about. When he got called up in '92, he only had 13 starts. The next year (his last year in Pittsburgh) he had a 5.61 ERA and a 1.71 WHIP in 20 starts. Some people might have heard of him regardless of where he played because he throws a knuckleball, but he wouldn't have been nearly as famous or popular as he is now.

The ace that in 1992 went 8-1 with a 2 somethin ERA,and again went 2-0 in the playoffs for the Pirates, true he lost his touch with the knuckleball in 93-94 but has rebounded to have a solid career after working with Niekro, as for famous or populaar he would have attained this regardless where he pitched

 

The Pirates' "ace" in 1992 (and the previous handful of seasons) was Doug Drabek, there is no arguing this...

Good for Josh. I liked him on the Marlins and keep somewhat of an eye on him.

 

I think he might end up a borderline, under-the-radar (if there is such a thing) HOFer, if he stays healthy (big if, because I thought he recently, maybe in the last year or so ran into blister problems again). And I think playing in Boston will help him get in, but won't be the deciding factor, just because more writers/voter will have heard of him before and his big moments, which is a little bit more influential than just looking at stats. Basically, bigger names, IMO, have a slighter edge, just because writers and voters may try to be fair and balanced, but some bias does come in. It is human nature.

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