Official NBA Offseason Thread

[MrMarlinPride]

This thread is to talk about the NBA Offseason moves and what not including the Draft and especially the F.A. Period which starts on July 1st.

 

To Start it off The Heat trade Daequan Cook and 1st Round Pick(18th overall) for OKC's 1st round pick (32nd Overall) and I hope cash.

Either way this trade frees up money for Free Agency which I hope the heat can sign Bosh and either Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay or if anything a solid point guard.

 

You are now free to discuss.

[dim]

Today, the Heat traded Daequan Cook and the 18th overall pick to the Thunder for the 32nd pick. Expect the Heat to make further moves, including trading that 32nd pick during the draft for a future 1st round pick, then using the 3 picks they have to move up in the early 2nd and taking 1 player they really like.

 

Sounds dumb? Well, it released the Heat of $3 million from the cap next year.

 

Now all we need to do is find a way to get rid Beasley and Jones and we can now afford three max players. Basically, the Heat have 4 players under contract now (Chalmers, Beasley, Anthony with an option, and Jones). Beasley is set to make around $5 million next year. James Jones has a buyout clause in his contract. So if we can rid ourselves of Beasley in a sign and trade, and we buyout JJ's contract, we'll have very very little money guranteed next season. We can get our 3 max contracts easily.

 

This offseason is going to be VERY interesting. No even median here, going to be very good or very bad.

[h2r09]

With beasley being traded tomorrow, i think pat knows something we dont. He keeps saying he is creating a dynasty but wade and 1 of the pf's isnt that. I honestly think LEbron, Wade, and Boozer or maybe even bosh could be a posssiblity for next year and in that case i dont think it will take much to get solid vets for the minimum.

 

I ust have this wierd feeling that pat knows what is going to happen with lebron.

 

The only thing i dont want to see is us not get him and we just got terrible value for that pick other than cap space. Could we really not get a 2050 conditional 2nd rounder or something like that for daequan? To give up him and not get a cheap young player in the mid first round kind of annoys me in the fact that a guy like Eric Bledsoe could have been had with that pick and you now wont be getting many starters in the late first that you could just put in there with our new big 3, whoever they may be.

[Dr Beinfest]

Sounds dumb? This was dumb. We just gave up our best asset for getting rid of a player... and we didnt get rid of James Jones. Good luck getting rid of him now! haha. I wanted to keep Beasley... but now that we wasted our pick it's going to be impossible to do that. Bye bye Beasley!

[Dr Beinfest]

With beasley being traded tomorrow, i think pat knows something we dont. He keeps saying he is creating a dynasty but wade and 1 of the pf's isnt that. I honestly think LEbron, Wade, and Boozer or maybe even bosh could be a posssiblity for next year and in that case i dont think it will take much to get solid vets for the minimum.

 

I ust have this wierd feeling that pat knows what is going to happen with lebron.

 

The only thing i dont want to see is us not get him and we just got terrible value for that pick other than cap space. Could we really not get a 2050 conditional 2nd rounder or something like that for daequan? To give up him and not get a cheap young player in the mid first round kind of annoys me in the fact that a guy like Eric Bledsoe could have been had with that pick and you now wont be getting many starters in the late first that you could just put in there with our new big 3, whoever they may be.

 

 

I honestly think Bosh is a given in Miami. It's my gut feeling. Although I honestly wouldnt care who came here between Boozer, Bosh, and Amare if LeBron came here lol.

[Anonymous]

Kinda sucks being a Magic fan, lol. The Heat are going to sign everyone and win a ring this season.

[MrMarlinPride]

Oh I'm sorry Dim. I honestly did not see you're thread. If the mods could, please combine the two together.

I really don't want to trade Beasley because he has so much potential to be a great scorer in the NBA but if it means we can get top like Chris Bosh, Amare, Rudy Gay or Johnson along with D- Wade I might be able to get over my man crush. :confused

[MrMarlinPride]

I honestly think Bosh is a given in Miami. It's my gut feeling. Although I honestly wouldnt care who came here between Boozer, Bosh, and Amare if LeBron came here lol.

 

 

I feel the same way especially since Bosh decided no nonsense and that he's not waiting for Lebron to sign so in my head that means the only options he has left is to play with Wade in Miami and Rose in Chicago and since he met with Wade and Riley before there's little doubt in my mind that he won't come down to play in Miami.

[Dr Beinfest]

Oh I'm sorry Dim. I honestly did not see you're thread. If the mods could, please combine the two together.

I really don't want to trade Beasley because he has so much potential to be a great scorer in the NBA but if it means we can get top like Chris Bosh, Amare, Rudy Gay or Johnson along with D- Wade I might be able to get over my man crush. :confused

 

 

I completely agree but do keep in mind it we kept Cook and our 1st we could've traded the 1st with Jones without recieving the OKC 1st or whatever we got in return. I'm sure there is some team who'd do the deal. And that way we'd be able to keep Beasley because Cook has trade value...

[dim]

Beasley is a scorer...ok, what is he after that? He's undersized for a PF, he doesn't defend well at all, basically he has been reduced to becoming a jump shooter, which he isn't entirely good at.

 

Right now, I can't see Beasley succeeding on the Heat. We run too much of a defense oriented, tight shift, no funny business kind of team. Beasley is a kid that still acts like he should be in college, and I still don't think he's adjusted to the idea that the NBA is a business, and you need to produce every day in order to keep your spot in the rotation. He probably got away with slacking off in his high schools and at K-State a bit, but once he got to the NBA that act didn't fly with Riley. The best thing for Beasley and the Heat is to part ways, for the Heat to simply get an expiring contract (such as a Keyon Dooling) and just gain the $5 million in cap space. Beasley can be a successful scorer on a bad team, but I can't see Beasley ever becoming a serious fixture on a good team as long as he is in the NBA. His game isn't even close to being a complete all around game, and I don't think he has the true work ethic or desire to maximize his potential.

 

Right now, the course of action the Heat should (and are) doing is rid yourself of basically every contract you can. We will try to get rid of James Jones at some point (although his contract will be hard to get rid of), Chalmers will be one of the few to stay, so will Joel Anthony, as they are cheap. Beasley will be traded very soon. I feel the Udonis Haslem loves Miami too much to leave. We'll get a deal done on an upscale kind of deal, I'm thinking around 3 years, $21 million, With it starting at $5 million, then $6.5 million, then $9.5 million. We'll get Wade resigned and our 2 max guys (who I feel will end up being Amar'e and a Gay/Johnson/whoever).

 

As far as tomorrow's draft, we probably are going to only take 1 or 2 players. Most likely we'll trade the rest for future 2nd round picks, or if some team really likes a player, a future 1st rounder. Look for guys like Greivis Vazquez or a Solomon Alabi if he falls to join the Heat. I really like Da'Shon Butler and hope he joins the Heat, even with his injury concerns.

 

The Summer will be hard to predict. Once Lebron makes his decision, I really feel the dominoes will really start to fall into place, and the upcoming season will become that much more clear. This is without a doubt the most important offseason in NBA history, and if Lebron and Bosh/Amar'e want to, can build a dynasty with the Heat/Nets/Knicks that could last for at least the next 5 years.

[JetsMania]

Joel Anthony is now a free agent, he didnt renew his player option.

[dim]

O.

 

I would've expected him to accept his option.

 

Still, we're going to resign him at a little over $1 million. Joel wants double what he made last year, Heat wanted him to take $800K, they'll find a happy median.

[Anonymous]

Bulls trade Hinrich and their 17th pick to the Wizards. They now have money to sign 2 max free agents.

[Dr Beinfest]

Bulls trade Hinrich and their 17th pick to the Wizards. They now have money to sign 2 max free agents.

 

 

Wow... HInrich > Cook for sure... I guess all of the non contending teams in FA knew that the teams who were close were in no condition to be negotiating.

 

None the less, the Heat are the only technical team whoc an afford "3 max players" if you will. Pending they get rid of James Jones or Beasley. God please somehow get rid of James Jones.

[MrMarlinPride]

Bulls trade Hinrich and their 17th pick to the Wizards. They now have money to sign 2 max free agents.

 

 

sh*t thats not good.

I hope they only get Boozer or David Lee and not Amare, Bosh or Joe Johnson.

 

Wow... HInrich > Cook for sure... I guess all of the non contending teams in FA knew that the teams who were close were in no condition to be negotiating.

 

None the less, the Heat are the only technical team whoc an afford "3 max players" if you will. Pending they get rid of James Jones or Beasley. God please somehow get rid of James Jones.

 

 

Yeah we dump Jones contract ASAP I'd just trade him and that 32nd pick we got for Cash and like a 2nd or 3rd round pick. I honestly don't think that makes much sense but just get rid of the guy.

[Dr Beinfest]

I think Joe Johnson to Chicago is happening. Same gut feeling as Bosh to Miami lol.

 

Honestly, I'd be willing to not pick at all in this draft if the Heat could get rid of James Jones.

[dim]

Heat are already working on buying out James Jones' contract.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5322877

 

Now it's only Chalmers and Beasley under contract, and after tonight there is a chance we have nobody under contract (although at the very least it seems Chalmers will be here).

 

Tonight is going to be interesting, just for the simple fact to find out what we are going to do with the 4 2nd round picks we have. We either trade three of them to move up into the early 2nd round and simply sign 2 second round picks, we could just trade three of them for a future first round pick, or we can just draft all 4 picks, and either sign 1 pick or just not offer contracts to any of them. Most likely the Heat are going to draft at those picks and have some kind of deal in place with another team to trade for future picks after the draft is done.

[dim]

I think Joe Johnson to Chicago is happening. Same gut feeling as Bosh to Miami lol.

 

Honestly, I'd be willing to not pick at all in this draft if the Heat could get rid of James Jones.

 

 

Joe Johnson is just a better version of Ben Gordon. I think the Bulls have bigger plans than just getting Joe Johnson.

 

 

And Bosh may come to Miami, but he's said already that he would prefer to be the top dog wherever he goes, and that he isn't interested in going to a team to be a sidekick to a "Lebron James kind of player".

 

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67317/20100621/bosh_wants_to_be_the_man_in_free_agency/#

[Dr Beinfest]

if the NBA works anything like the NHL buyouts still count against the cap... do they not? Just at a reduced cost... honestly Beasley off the bench would be great...

[dim]

if the NBA works anything like the NHL buyouts still count against the cap... do they not? Just at a reduced cost... honestly Beasley off the bench would be great...

 

 

James Jones buyout will count something like $1.5 million against the cap, but releasing us of his nearly $4 million contract next season will overall save us close to $3 million on the cap next season if you factor in the money that will go against the cap as a result of the buyout.

 

Basically, it benefits the Heat greatly to just buyout his contract.

[Dr Beinfest]

if the NBA works anything like the NHL buyouts still count against the cap... do they not? Just at a reduced cost... honestly Beasley off the bench would be great...

 

 

James Jones buyout will count something like $1.5 million against the cap, but releasing us of his nearly $4 million contract next season will overall save us close to $3 million on the cap next season if you factor in the money that will go against the cap as a result of the buyout.

 

Basically, it benefits the Heat greatly to just buyout his contract.

 

I guess that also means because Cook is gone it does complete enough to get the near 40 million freed up... Beasley might still be here after all.

 

What is our bench going to look like lol?

[dim]

Well it is believed that Wright and Haslem are going to resign, and that we are going to get a deal done with Anthony and possibly Magloire (sp?). The rest of the bench will consist of minimum or close to minimum contracts.

 

and yes, we will have just about the maximum amount of cap space freed up that is possible once we trade Beasley for an expiring contract.

[Iowa]

wow what a day. bulls get rid of hinrichs monster contract. wet dream is lebron and bosh.. put them with rose and noah... goodbye nba. now if lebron stays, i feel very confident the bulls will get bosh and johson.

[dim]

Cmon Soloman Alabi!

 

He's like Roy Hibbert all over again (a bit more raw though).

[dim]

meh, Dexter Pittman. He's fat, that's for sure.

 

Guess he's more proven than Alabi, but I think Alabi's height will serve him well in the NBA.

 

I'm not upset about Pittman, as he shoots like 65% from the field (because he only shoots from like 5 feet away from the basketball).

 

We'll see... Not upset, not happy.

 

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I still want to see Da'Sean Butler drafted by some team, even if it isn't the Heat (although I hope he does get drafted by the Heat). Think he's a good kid, extremely mature, was the leader of the WVU team in their run to the Final Four, and he has one of the highest basketball IQ's in the draft. Most teams are probably staying away from him because of that bad injury he suffered during the Final Four game.