Stanton Power

[CyggyMarlin]

Sorry if already posted...

 

http://joefrisaro.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/07/stantons_awe-inspiring_power.html

[Jonny Ramos]

This kid is gonna have 30 homers when the season is done, you watch.

 

Edit: Not a good time to go on a break if you're Stanton though.

[CyggyMarlin]

This kid is gonna have 30 homers when the season is done, you watch.

 

Edit: Not a good time to go on a break if you're Stanton though.

 

Based on his one month of playing time, IF this is being consistent for him as a 20 year old as he learns, he'd be on pace for 25+ HR, 105+ RBIs out of the 7 / 8 slot if he played a full season, not bad even if his average stays around .230

[Marlins Phenom]

This kid is gonna have 30 homers when the season is done, you watch.

 

Edit: Not a good time to go on a break if you're Stanton though.

 

Based on his one month of playing time, IF this is being consistent for him as a 20 year old as he learns, he'd be on pace for 25+ HR, 105+ RBIs out of the 7 / 8 slot if he played a full season, not bad even if his average stays around .230

I know his 20 and his still adjusting to major league pitching.

 

But i dont want a .230 avg hitter and 25HR (Another Mark R or Pena) I want a 280-300avg 25+hr guy! Once again im talking when he gets use to MLB pitchin

[Michael]

Oh my... he's projected right now to strike out 160 times while only walking 26 times xD

I know that won't happen, but wow.

 

But, on pace for 18 HR and 73 RBI so not bad.

[gizmo]

Oh my... he's projected right now to strike out 160 times while only walking 26 times xD

I know that won't happen, but wow.

 

But, on pace for 18 HR and 73 RBI so not bad.

 

 

Especially considering he's only 20 and came up in June.

[...]

Not often when the usually useless opinion of a mere observer like me is validated by actual ballplayers.

 

A couple of days ago, I said:

 

That line-drive double he hit to the top of the LF wall was a bullet and got there in about 2 seconds.

 

The guy is amazing. He, a mere 20 year-old rookie with about 2 dozen games under his belt smashes line drives like nobody else in MLB. I mean, he absolutely rips the hide off the ball when he makes good contact. I've never seen anything like it in almost 50 years of watching. Hutton mentioned his power also, and you could tell that he was sort of floored by the raw majesty of it. Almost speechless. And rarely is Hutton at a loss for words.

 

I have no doubt that the estimates of a 500+' HR in AA are true. The power he has is downright scary. Really scary if you're standing a mere 60' 6" away. A ball leaving the bat at 150 mph (the double averaged 120-130 all the way to the wall) gets to the mound in about a quarter of a second. I'm hoping that no opposing pitcher ever takes one in the head, the poor schlub could wind up dead.

 

 

http://www.marlinsba...http://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/92626-709-post-game/

 

Cody said, in the Frisaro piece:

 

"He hits the ball harder than anyone I've ever seen in my life," Ross said. Ross has been teammates of Hanley Ramirez and Miguel Cabrera, who is now with the Tigers. The ball also sounds differently coming off their bats.

 

"Cabrera hits the ball hard. Hanley hits the ball really hard," Ross said. "Neither one of them compares to Stanton."

 

Strawberry was close according to Cody, but still not as hard as Stanton.

 

Along the same lines of my point of the danger of pitching to this beast, 3B coach Espada backs way off and warns fans on the 3B line to be alert when Stanton hits. Reynolds doesn't want to play "in" when he hits. Perfectly understandable (Frisaro presents that as joking around with Bo Porter, but Reynolds had every reason to be completely serious.) Reyes probably felt the most pain he ever has catching a line-drive. Anywhere within 100' of this guy when he's hitting is a major danger zone.

 

Stanton's nickname really should be "Herman," after the "Munsters" episode where Leo Durocher tries out Herman and balls explode or go into orbit when hit.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0653065/

 

I'm not quite sure of what it is that we're watching happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sets some sort of new, and much higher standard for what a "power" hitter is over the next few years.

 

So far, he's really been quite amazing for a raw 20 year-old just starting to learn the ropes of MLB. The Marlins could lose every game for the next 2 years and I'd watch every one of them just to see this guy develop.

 

If he succeeds, the Marlins will be a team with 3 major super-stars. That's the core of a winning team for many years, and one which we might finally be able to afford.

[CyggyMarlin]

Not often when the usually useless opinion of a mere observer like me is validated by actual ballplayers.

 

A couple of days ago, I said:

 

That line-drive double he hit to the top of the LF wall was a bullet and got there in about 2 seconds.

 

The guy is amazing. He, a mere 20 year-old rookie with about 2 dozen games under his belt smashes line drives like nobody else in MLB. I mean, he absolutely rips the hide off the ball when he makes good contact. I've never seen anything like it in almost 50 years of watching. Hutton mentioned his power also, and you could tell that he was sort of floored by the raw majesty of it. Almost speechless. And rarely is Hutton at a loss for words.

 

I have no doubt that the estimates of a 500+' HR in AA are true. The power he has is downright scary. Really scary if you're standing a mere 60' 6" away. A ball leaving the bat at 150 mph (the double averaged 120-130 all the way to the wall) gets to the mound in about a quarter of a second. I'm hoping that no opposing pitcher ever takes one in the head, the poor schlub could wind up dead.

 

 

http://www.marlinsba...http://www.marlinsbaseball.com/topic/92626-709-post-game/

 

Cody said, in the Frisaro piece:

 

"He hits the ball harder than anyone I've ever seen in my life," Ross said. Ross has been teammates of Hanley Ramirez and Miguel Cabrera, who is now with the Tigers. The ball also sounds differently coming off their bats.

 

"Cabrera hits the ball hard. Hanley hits the ball really hard," Ross said. "Neither one of them compares to Stanton."

 

Strawberry was close according to Cody, but still not as hard as Stanton.

 

Along the same lines of my point of the danger of pitching to this beast, 3B coach Espada backs way off and warns fans on the 3B line to be alert when Stanton hits. Reynolds doesn't want to play "in" when he hits. Perfectly understandable (Frisaro presents that as joking around with Bo Porter, but Reynolds had every reason to be completely serious.) Reyes probably felt the most pain he ever has catching a line-drive. Anywhere within 100' of this guy when he's hitting is a major danger zone.

 

Stanton's nickname really should be "Herman," after the "Munsters" episode where Leo Durocher tries out Herman and balls explode or go into orbit when hit.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0653065/

 

I'm not quite sure of what it is that we're watching happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sets some sort of new, and much higher standard for what a "power" hitter is over the next few years.

 

So far, he's really been quite amazing for a raw 20 year-old just starting to learn the ropes of MLB. The Marlins could lose every game for the next 2 years and I'd watch every one of them just to see this guy develop.

 

If he succeeds, the Marlins will be a team with 3 major super-stars. That's the core of a winning team for many years, and one which we might finally be able to afford.

 

Seeing what he can do now at 20, has he stopped growing? What will he be like at his peak? When the Marlins unveil the new jerseys for the new ballpark, damn right I'll be in line to buy a Stanton jersey.... I've never bought a "player" jersey before, but Mike's will be the exception

[bobbob1313]

I'm not quite sure of what it is that we're watching happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sets some sort of new, and much higher standard for what a "power" hitter is over the next few years.

 

All of 1 of Stanton's home runs have gone over 400 feet.

 

Jesus christ, our expectations for this kid are unfair.

 

He's going to be a lot more Mark Reynolds than whatever it is you guys think he's going to be.

[MarlinsLou]

I'm not quite sure of what it is that we're watching happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sets some sort of new, and much higher standard for what a "power" hitter is over the next few years.

 

All of 1 of Stanton's home runs have gone over 400 feet.

 

Jesus christ, our expectations for this kid are unfair.

 

He's going to be a lot more Mark Reynolds than whatever it is you guys think he's going to be.

This

 

His swing isn't conducive to average, and if you can't see that you have some problems. The power is undeniable. I can't wait till he "really" hits one, as he is just dinking HRs right now which is scary. But longterm, realistic expectations are probably in the range of 60-80 walks, 30-40 HR, and 200 strikeouts. It's going to be a .240/.325/.525 line or something nuts like that. Which, is awesome and we should all be thrilled with that, but expecting him to turn into a .270/.400/.600 beast is probably just not going to happen expect for a magical peak year. Maybe in like 5 or 6 years things change and he morphs into a 100 BB/.270 average beast like Dunn once he figures out how to fight off some pitches and not chase everything (which he does now), but that is not going to happen over night and I'm worried like Bob, a lot of you have insane expectations. He is doing great right now. He has a lot to work on, but he is handling himself well and being fairly productive. He's not setting a new standard for power hitters. That is just ridiculous to predict him to be one of the all time greats.

[bobbob1313]

If he becomes Ryan Howard offensively, that's an absolutely unbelievable win for our organization, but I think people are expecting that, which is a problem.

[babaru]

I don't know about you guys, but with the home run derby tonight I can't help but think about Stanton getting a shot at one in the future.

[PhxPhin]

He had 3 at bats which really stick out for me during the AZ series .... one was a broken bat contact that was like a laser coming off the bat ..... the 2nd was the line drive off the wall ..... the 3rd was his HR - i really can't explain how rare it is for a right hander to put one over the pool, it just doesn't happen

 

i was also surprised by how deep he was going into counts ... it seemed like he looked at some good pitches and swung on some bad ones, which is to be expected .... but he doesn't look lost out there and looks like he has the patience and desire to see pitches, learn and figure this major league hitting thing out

 

this is something that mark reynolds has never been able to do

[Jonny Ramos]

Bottom line is... He's looked like a different guy out there from when he first came up.

[Sirspud]

The last time I saw a right hander do what he was doing it was Miguel Cabrera. Whatever happened to him?

[Michael]

The last time I saw a right hander do what he was doing it was Miguel Cabrera. Whatever happened to him?

 

Not a clue. D:

[Hotcorner]

someone who can break down swing mechanics explain this to me.... because admittedly I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

 

But to me it seems like his swing is very quick and there's very little wasted energy. It's sort of an unorthodox swing, all arms or something.... which probably isn't ideal but whatever. He seems to be able to mash the ball with the flick of a wrist.

 

The fact that he doesn't have this big full swing, seems like that would be conducive to striking out less if you develop a better eye over time, compared to a longer swing.

 

Just seems to me that as quick as he can flip the bat around, he ought to be able to foul off anything he wants to.

 

Right now he can look totally baffled and swing a mile too late at a fastball right down the middle, etc, but I would think that's mostly just not picking up pitches early enough, & something that he could absolutely improve on.

 

 

But yeah I've always figured he'd be a .250ish hitter with lots of homers.

[...]

Hey, I'm talking about the next few YEARS, he ain't gonna do it overnight.

 

He struggles for a while at every level, then he figures it out. So, here we are. He's struggling a little but he's figuring it out and hitting homers by accident. He knocks infielders down. There are no more levels to conquer. Only pitchers hoping to figure HIM out.

 

He'll be hitting in the 4 hole eventually. We need an Uggla (or whoever) behind him so he sees something to hit. I think we can manage that.

 

He'll continue to be amazing.

[Shaft]

I'm not quite sure of what it is that we're watching happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if he sets some sort of new, and much higher standard for what a "power" hitter is over the next few years.

 

All of 1 of Stanton's home runs have gone over 400 feet.

 

Jesus christ, our expectations for this kid are unfair.

 

He's going to be a lot more Mark Reynolds than whatever it is you guys think he's going to be.

 

Well, that's sort of the thing. Some players don't have a lot of power, so they need to "get all of the ball" to make it over the fence. I think when you're really strong you can hit a ball over the fence even if you don't "get all of it"