Posted September 3, 201014 yr For the love of f***ing god the NFL and college needs to ban this sh*t! Its really annoyong and stupid and doesn't even work most of the time. Last night Utah took it to a whole new level. They did it 2 attempts in a row! I wanna know who started this so I can personally kill them. :censored I'm not mad because it cost me a bet or in fantasy football(neither of which I do) or caused my teams to lose a game(that I can remember). Even if I won a million dollars because of it, I would still hate it. Do they do it in High School football? Edit: Its already banned in the NFL.
September 3, 201014 yr it happened in the ISU-NIU game too.. two timeouts called... the Northern illinois kicker essentially kicked 3 field goals and missed every single one of them
September 3, 201014 yr Uhh? Since when was freezing the kicked banned in the NFL? It's retarded, and occasionally the refs will not permit the TOs to be used (happened in Eagles-Packers NFC Championship a few years back, happens all the time actually).
September 3, 201014 yr I don't see how there's anything wrong with it....just usually gives the kicker more time to focus.
September 3, 201014 yr Yeah, when did the NFL ban it? Must have been over the offseason if it happened because they did do it last year.
September 3, 201014 yr i may be wrong but i dont think they banned it... you just can't call a timeout after a timeout has been called. so they can't go out there a burn 3 timeouts in a row
September 3, 201014 yr Iowa is correct. Icing the kicker is still allowed, just not icing the icing of the kicker.
September 3, 201014 yr yeah - it's beyond obnoxious - was nice seeing the missed FG not count because of the TO I was never a fan of the icing time out .......... i reallly hate the wait just until the ball is about to be snapped and then call out so everyone gets to collide with each other for nothing version of icing
September 3, 201014 yr oh sure not Dr Beinfest or Rab, Iowa. Because Iowa is teh greatest. Glad you understand.
September 3, 201014 yr Author Yeah, when did the NFL ban it? Must have been over the offseason if it happened because they did do it last year. Its calling two timeouts in a row that they banned, not calling them during the kick. My mistake. Its not icing the kicker I have a problem with. Its doing it when the kick has already started. Its almost like a batter calling for time in baseball when the pitcher is halfway threw his pitching motion.
September 4, 201014 yr Yeah, when did the NFL ban it? Must have been over the offseason if it happened because they did do it last year. Its calling two timeouts in a row that they banned, not calling them during the kick. My mistake. Its not icing the kicker I have a problem with. Its doing it when the kick has already started. Its almost like a batter calling for time in baseball when the pitcher is halfway threw his pitching motion. Of course, that's cheap. And it runs the risk of injury as well. When you've got a pitcher winding up for his motion, the same as a kicker going up for the kick, if they hear the call/whistle, instinctively they're going to try and sto pit even though they're told to complete the pitch/kick. On occasion though, body parts can twist and turn the wrong way when that happens.
September 21, 201014 yr some college game this weekend had 3 TOs called before the half on something like a 24 yard FG attempt ........... real compelling to watch
September 22, 201014 yr some college game this weekend had 3 TOs called before the half on something like a 24 yard FG attempt ........... real compelling to watch I believe rule is a team can only call one timeout per play so you can't ice a kicker 3 times.
September 22, 201014 yr Author some college game this weekend had 3 TOs called before the half on something like a 24 yard FG attempt ........... real compelling to watch I believe rule is a team can only call one timeout per play so you can't ice a kicker 3 times. That's in the NFL.
September 23, 201014 yr new rule, if the kicker is set to kick, a ref should refuse to call a time out. if they are not set, the time out can be accepted. so dumb that they call time out like that.
September 23, 201014 yr new rule, if the kicker is set to kick, a ref should refuse to call a time out. if they are not set, the time out can be accepted. so dumb that they call time out like that. So then... Im going to bring my field goal unit out from 65 yards and get my kicker set just so the other team cant call a timeout. I'll burn off the clock, and then not kick it. Sound fair? Or maybe... maybe I'm defense and the wrong players or too many men are on the field and I need to get my 11 players correctly set up for special teams defense... but I cant! The ref wont let me call a time out! and the kick is up! And it's uncontested! But wait... even better! He missed the kick! But there were too many players on the field! Re-kick! There are many logical reasons to be able to call a timeout. Freezing the kicker is completely fair. I absolutely hate football for being an 'exploit-the-rule' sport where you can waste time off of the clock, spike the ball, kneel th eball, etc. and that's all tactical, because you're playing the technical rules of the game and not the game itself. BUT that's how the game is. So it's only fair to say that freezing the kicker should stay.
September 23, 201014 yr Author new rule, if the kicker is set to kick, a ref should refuse to call a time out. if they are not set, the time out can be accepted. so dumb that they call time out like that. Marry Me.:wub: @Dr Bienfest: Its not freezing the kicker that I have issue with. It calling the time out once the kick has already started. I think the ball was already in the air when it happened in the Redskins-Texans game. If I was a coach I would exploit the rule by standing behind the goal posts during the kick so I could get a real good look at it, and only call the time out if the kick was going to be good. Can any of the refs grant time outs or just certain ones(or just one of them)? There's 2 standing behind the goal posts during FG's and PAT's.
September 23, 201014 yr No, they wont call a timeout if the ball has already been snapped. What you saw was a bang-bang whistle where the ball was in the middle of being snapped while the timeout was motioned. Kickers are trained to go the full motion of the kick, and punters too, so as to not injure themselves trying to stop. Which is why the kick goes up after the whistle. The timeout was signaled by the coach before the ball is snapped, and is whistled before the kicker actually kicks the ball. Or else it wont be called. And the coach needs to stand right next to the ref to call the timeout at the right time. And the coach (nobody) is allowed behind the endzone.
September 23, 201014 yr Author No, they wont call a timeout if the ball has already been snapped. What you saw was a bang-bang whistle where the ball was in the middle of being snapped while the timeout was motioned. Kickers are trained to go the full motion of the kick, and punters too, so as to not injure themselves trying to stop. Which is why the kick goes up after the whistle. The timeout was signaled by the coach before the ball is snapped, and is whistled before the kicker actually kicks the ball. Or else it wont be called. And the coach needs to stand right next to the ref to call the timeout at the right time. And the coach (nobody) is allowed behind the endzone. Maybe its not during, but its at the last millisecond which is just as bad.
September 24, 201014 yr some college game this weekend had 3 TOs called before the half on something like a 24 yard FG attempt ........... real compelling to watch I believe rule is a team can only call one timeout per play so you can't ice a kicker 3 times. That's in the NFL. i think someone in the nfl tried to get away with calling two times out in a row during this situation not too long ago and they got hit with some penalty. forgot who though.
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