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Both JJ's pitch well.

Line out line out line out warning track fly ball line out line out sharp ground ball out line out strikeout line out ... This night was filled with line drive outs.

Oh poo...

It was a no offense game by the Marlins. :blink: Both runs that ATL got were because of a former Marlin :confused Not a happy night for Florida fans :|

well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong.

 

 

we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms.

JJ is now tied for second in the NL in ERA.

well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong.

 

 

we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms.

 

 

Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer.

 

And we've had workable bullpens for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some.

well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong.

 

 

we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms.

 

 

Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer.

 

And we've had workable defenses for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some.

 

Cheap thing no good, the cheap ends up expensive.

When JJ is on the mound is seems like the rest of the team just assumes he will hit 3 homers and pitch a CG shut out.

well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong.

 

 

we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms.

 

 

Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer.

 

And we've had workable defenses for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some.

 

Cheap thing no good, the cheap ends up expensive.

 

 

And, to be fair, our bullpen didnt cost us this game. It was our streaky offense.

well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong.

 

 

we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms.

 

 

Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer.

 

And we've had workable bullpens for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some.

 

 

Leo is a big part of the problem. Yes, he had 2 fantastic months (April and July)... The rest of been terrible to average to below average. Leo's june was a 4.09 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, .295 BA against and 2 blown saves. his May was okay but still a 3.65 ERA.. I'm not going to mention August. 2 months does not make an All-star and neither do 8 blown saves.


Pitcher   		Run Support Average

Chris Volstad      	7.58
Anibal Sanchez   	7.41
Ricky Nolasco 		6.51
Josh Johnson 		5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?


Pitcher   		Run Support Average

Chris Volstad      	7.58
Anibal Sanchez   	7.41
Ricky Nolasco 		6.51
Josh Johnson 		5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?

 

 

Is there a way to see how many unearned runs were scored against us in each one's starts?


Pitcher   		Run Support Average

Chris Volstad      	7.58
Anibal Sanchez   	7.41
Ricky Nolasco 		6.51
Josh Johnson 		5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?

 

 

Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high.


Pitcher   		Run Support Average

Chris Volstad      	7.58
Anibal Sanchez   	7.41
Ricky Nolasco 		6.51
Josh Johnson 		5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?

 

 

Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high.

 

I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN


Pitcher   		Run Support Average

Chris Volstad      	7.58
Anibal Sanchez   	7.41
Ricky Nolasco 		6.51
Josh Johnson 		5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?

 

 

Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high.

 

I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN

 

There's your problem right there.


Pitcher           Run Support Average

Chris Volstad          7.58
Anibal Sanchez       7.41
Ricky Nolasco         6.51
Josh Johnson         5.93

Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts?

 

 

Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high.

 

I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN

 

There's your problem right there.

 

I agree that they seem awfully high (except the last few weeks). Must be another place to get those stats.

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