I Love Me Some Fish Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 2-0 Braves Both JJ's pitch well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Line out line out line out warning track fly ball line out line out sharp ground ball out line out strikeout line out ... This night was filled with line drive outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entendu Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Oh poo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishes on the Pond Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It was a no offense game by the Marlins. :blink: Both runs that ATL got were because of a former Marlin :confused Not a happy night for Florida fans :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2r09 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong. we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 JJ is now tied for second in the NL in ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong. we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms. Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer. And we've had workable bullpens for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVETOY Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong. we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms. Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer. And we've had workable defenses for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some. Cheap thing no good, the cheap ends up expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dom2613 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 When JJ is on the mound is seems like the rest of the team just assumes he will hit 3 homers and pitch a CG shut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong. we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms. Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer. And we've had workable defenses for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some. Cheap thing no good, the cheap ends up expensive. And, to be fair, our bullpen didnt cost us this game. It was our streaky offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 well, there goes the playoffs. only chance we have now is winning all games vs philly. who am i kidding, another season down the tubes because our owner refuses to get us a real closer/bullpen. for those of you who earlier in the year were saying you can plug anyone into a closers role as long as they are a good reliever were flat out wrong. we are not a playoff team and wont be until we open up the books for back of the bullpen arms. Middle relief (8th inning guy) was the problem this year, not the closer. Leo had one bad month (August). The other 4 months he was an all star closer. And we've had workable bullpens for cheap in the past. This year it didn't work. Doesn't mean the system is flawed, just a failure this year. It works some, it fails some. Leo is a big part of the problem. Yes, he had 2 fantastic months (April and July)... The rest of been terrible to average to below average. Leo's june was a 4.09 ERA, 1.45 WHIP, .295 BA against and 2 blown saves. his May was okay but still a 3.65 ERA.. I'm not going to mention August. 2 months does not make an All-star and neither do 8 blown saves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBob27 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Is there a way to see how many unearned runs were scored against us in each one's starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high. I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high. I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN There's your problem right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishes on the Pond Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 Pitcher Run Support Average Chris Volstad 7.58 Anibal Sanchez 7.41 Ricky Nolasco 6.51 Josh Johnson 5.93 Is there any reason why it's like this? Or is the difference from 7.58 -> 5.93 RS not really significant? How do I find bullpen ERA on JJ starts vs. Anibal/Ricky/Volstad starts? Are those numbers supposed to represent the number of runs the Marlins score per start of each of those players? If so, they are almost definitely wrong. They are wayyyyy too high. I got the same idea too. But I didn't calculate anything myself I got them off ESPN There's your problem right there. I agree that they seem awfully high (except the last few weeks). Must be another place to get those stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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