True CRaysball Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I've officially had enough of the partisan bickering is Washington, if we were United like our country name states we'd actually try working together to solve our problems instead of towing the party line! I guess that's too much to ask because instead we got one side tearing down one party and that party tearing down the former and guess what? NOTHING'S GETTING SOLVED! :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Isn't this a forum for political news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Where's those anti-government militias that train in the middle of the woods? Now would be a good time for them to overthrow the government. I guess they're all talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Where's those anti-government militias that train in the middle of the woods? Now would be a good time for them to overthrow the government. I guess they're all talk. Yeah, more instability is definitely the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Actually it's sad, but both parties agree on the same thing, essentially. That we need to gut our social programs. The argument was mostly just about Republicans not wanting to negotiate with Democrats for any reason whatsoever. If you looked at the actual proposals from both sides, they were hard to separate from one another. The saddest part is that the Democrats' plan cuts the MOST. Not the GOP. Why do they even call themselves Democrats if they're going to try and cut MORE? Especially now when people are being increasingly forced to rely on government assistance to keep themselves financially afloat? The plan that was passed is going to take at least $100 billion a year out of the economy, and probably even more than that after the Deficit Commission (which should not be remotely Constitutional because they answer to no one) forces the country into even further cuts. Well I hope the politicians enjoy this double-dip recession, because without a doubt this plan is sending us over that cliff. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 5% off the top of every program until the budget is balanced. There will be some difficult readjustment, but once it is done, it is done. Then limit the growth of spending and pay off the debt. In a decade we could fight over how to waste the extra trillion dollars we would make every year as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 5% off the top of every program until the budget is balanced. There will be some difficult readjustment, but once it is done, it is done. Then limit the growth of spending and pay off the debt. In a decade we could fight over how to waste the extra trillion dollars we would make every year as a result. Don't expenditures exceed revenues by somehting like 60%? If that's the case, 5% wouldn't do much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Revenues will increase, and much of the expenditures issues include interest on incurred debt. $200b off the budget every year will eliminate the deficit in 4 years (with revenue increases) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 When I say 5% off the top of every program, I mean every program, especially entitlements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy42Jack0 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 or we could try taxing the rich for the first time in 30+ years...i mean god only knows how much revenue that would bring in... you know, the people that actually have disposable incomes in this country anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Well the first thing we should do is eliminate the cap on SS, so that people who earn more than $142,000 a year or so still have to pay their share of SS. This would provide a major influx to the program. Again, we need to return to Clinton-era tax rates, at the very minimum. Before we even start considering cutting Medicare, Medicaid, SS, etc. we need to at the very least slash the Defense budget heavily (but not, as they are proposing, by gutting soldiers' retirements). This would involve ceasing military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as Libya. We can easily solve our 'deficit problem' by putting taxes back to reasonable rates, as opposed to the current system where we're punishing the poor more and more when they can't afford it. The rich need to pay their fair share. The Bush Tax Cuts alone cost us over $1 trillion in revenue from 2002-2010, and I believe that may be a low figure. Scrapping those tax cuts and then returning the rates to the Clinton era, in conjunction with the other mentioned changes, would reduce the yearly deficit by more than half. You just can't cut forever. It's impossible. We've already cut most crucial programs to the bone (except for Defense of course, because for some reason that's untouchable). It's LOOONGGG past due for people to pay their fair share, when the average person has been for over a decade now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 We shouldn't eliminate the cap on payroll taxes unless we eliminate the employer match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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