Posted August 14, 201113 yr Dimagio, Rose, and Castillo, etc, were .300 hitters, or at least high .200 hitters. Uggla is barely hitting .200. How do you barely hit .200 and hit in 33 games in a row? OK, .232 isn't barely .200 but if not for the hitting streak he'd probably be 10-20 points lower. And I think he was hitting around .200 when the streak started.
August 14, 201113 yr He's not a .200 hitter. He was playing below his talent level (for whatever reason) and now he's playing slightly above it. Uggla's career numbers with the Marlins don't make this streak a huge surprise.
August 14, 201113 yr He's not a .200 hitter. He was playing below his talent level (for whatever reason) and now he's playing slightly above it. Uggla's career numbers with the Marlins don't make this streak a huge surprise. Joe Posnanski tweeted that, given how poorly he had been playing prior to the streak (I believe the number was something like at least 1 hit in only 66% of game in which he had 3 PAs), there was an almost 3 million-to-1 chance of him having a 33 game hitting streak. He then tweeted that even allowing for his career actually being better than he had been playing, it was still only 3500-to-1 odds. A 33 game hitting streak is a huge surprise for anyone, but especially for a guy who struggles to make contact and doesn't have great speed. Dan Uggla's a MUCH better hitter than he was before the streak, but given his past and skill set, it's the very definition of a huge surprise that he has a 33 game hitting streak.
August 14, 201113 yr He's not a .200 hitter. He was playing below his talent level (for whatever reason) and now he's playing slightly above it. Uggla's career numbers with the Marlins don't make this streak a huge surprise. Joe Posnanski tweeted that, given how poorly he had been playing prior to the streak (I believe the number was something like at least 1 hit in only 66% of game in which he had 3 PAs), there was an almost 3 million-to-1 chance of him having a 33 game hitting streak. He then tweeted that even allowing for his career actually being better than he had been playing, it was still only 3500-to-1 odds. A 33 game hitting streak is a huge surprise for anyone, but especially for a guy who struggles to make contact and doesn't have great speed. Dan Uggla's a MUCH better hitter than he was before the streak, but given his past and skill set, it's the very definition of a huge surprise that he has a 33 game hitting streak. Couldn't have said it better myself. We all know Uggs is a .260ish hitter with pretty good SLG and that he would raise that .200 avg in due time. And he is a very streaky hitter as well. But its completely surprising that some pitcher didn't come by and make him have an 0-4, 3 K type of game in the past 33. I don't except it to last past 36 (Braves play the Giants next). But then again, I didn't expect it to last much past 20 when I first heard of it.
August 14, 201113 yr I think it was more around .170, his BA before the streak. Don't quote me on that though.
August 14, 201113 yr Uggla is a better hitter than Castillo, Rollins and Santiago so that's three he's a better hitter than just out the past few.
August 14, 201113 yr Author According to this, he pretty much is the worst: http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/14934/a-streak-as-hot-as-it-is-long
August 14, 201113 yr According to this, he pretty much is the worst: http://espn.go.com/b...t-as-it-is-long According to hitting stats he's not.
August 14, 201113 yr He's certainly not the worst hitter in terms of overall production, however in terms of only batting average and ability to produce hits, he's probably among the worst and least likely to have accrued a 30 game hitting. He's a better hitter than Luis Castillo or Jimmy Rollins, but their skill sets were far more conducive to picking up a high number of hits, given their better contact and speed skills. So it's not fair to say he's one of the worst hitters to do this, he's certainly one of the most unlikely.
August 15, 201113 yr Uggla is a better hitter than Castillo, Rollins and Santiago so that's three he's a better hitter than just out the past few. Those three guys were all better hitters than Uggla. Hitting = getting hits. Uggla might be the more productive offensive player, but he's not a better hitter.
August 15, 201113 yr Uggla is a better hitter than Castillo, Rollins and Santiago so that's three he's a better hitter than just out the past few. Those three guys were all better hitters than Uggla. Hitting = getting hits. Uggla might be the more productive offensive player, but he's not a better hitter. No. A guy who hits .250 with 1 HR and a guy who hits .250 with 30 HR are not equal hitters. I hate it when this argument is made and it's funny, because you're the only one who does this to me!
August 15, 201113 yr Rab, I think you and Puma have two different definitions of being a "hitter". I agree with Puma that Uggla's a more productive player, but in terms of ability to hit the ball, Castillo is light years ahead of Uggla. Dan has power, but he in no way encompasses the thought of being a all around better hitter. It's like trying to make the argument that Mike Stanton is a better hitter than Ichiro. Probably not right.
August 15, 201113 yr Castillo had a better chance of reaching base by means of a hit, which is what you want in order to get a long hitting streak. Let's leave it at that.
August 15, 201113 yr When a guy is leading the league in hitting, it means he has the highest batting average. I rest my case...
August 15, 201113 yr Rab, I think you and Puma have two different definitions of being a "hitter". I agree with Puma that Uggla's a more productive player, but in terms of ability to hit the ball, Castillo is light years ahead of Uggla. Dan has power, but he in no way encompasses the thought of being a all around better hitter. It's like trying to make the argument that Mike Stanton is a better hitter than Ichiro. Probably not right. How hard you hit the ball is part of hitting the ball. Also, that's just about the only time I've ever heard "all-around" used to mean "in a single dimension".
August 15, 201113 yr Rab, I think you and Puma have two different definitions of being a "hitter". I agree with Puma that Uggla's a more productive player, but in terms of ability to hit the ball, Castillo is light years ahead of Uggla. Dan has power, but he in no way encompasses the thought of being a all around better hitter. It's like trying to make the argument that Mike Stanton is a better hitter than Ichiro. Probably not right. How hard you hit the ball is part of hitting the ball. Also, that's just about the only time I've ever heard "all-around" used to mean "in a single dimension". :lol I think I understand what dim is trying to say, but that's still very funny.
August 15, 201113 yr When a guy is leading the league in hitting, it means he has the highest batting average. I rest my case... That's cuz in the old days, average was used to judge a hitter, not obp or slg. There's a reason "hitting for power" and "hitting for average" are said to differinciate. "Hitting" encompases all things hitting; "hitting for average"' is what you describe
August 15, 201113 yr "Hitting for average" and "hitting" are synonymous. A guy can hit for power, but it doesn't necessarily make him a good hitter. The term "hitting" as it is used throughout the entire baseball world is the ability to reach base via a hit.
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