Iowa Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Building off Bob's numbers: C John Buck - $6,500,000 1B Prince Fielder - $20,000,000 2B Omar Infante - $4,000,000 3B Hanley Ramirez - $15,000,000 SS Jose Reyes - $16,000,000 LF Emilio Bonifacio - $2,000,000 CF Yoennis Cespedes $6,000,000 RF Mike Stanton - $420,000 B Brett Hayes - $420,000 B Bryan Petersen - $420,000 B Chris Coghlan - $400,000 B Jose Lopez - $500,000 B John Baker - $500,000 SP Josh Johnson - $13,750,000 SP Gio Gonzalez - $4,200,000 SP Anibal Sanchez - $6,000,000 SP Carlos Zambrano - $1,000,000 SP Livan Hernandez - $1,000,000 RP Edward Mujica - $1,500,000 RP Randy Choate - $1,500,000 RP Ryan Webb - $430,000 RP Mike Dunn - $420,000 RP Steve Cishek - $420,000 RP Alex Sanabia - $420,000 Lineup 1. Reyes 2. Bonifacio 3. Hanley 4. Fielder 5. Stanton 6. Cespedes 7. Infante 8. Buck 103 mil WIth Ozzie at the helm, this becomes one of, if not the most intriguing, entertaining team in the league. They will get a ton of national coverage with this roster and manager in the new stadium. On the offense, Reyes/Fielder are big-time marketable superstars and the Cespedes Cuban/Miami connection works out great. On the rotation, its top heavy (really good top) but atleast the bottom of the rotation (Zambrano, Hernandez) provides a high Q rating nationally and locally, respectively. (Replace Fielder with Pujols, 110 mil.. just sayin) :mischief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 If we have a 103 million dollar payroll, and we manage that roster, I'm streaking down my street punching every Phillies fan I see in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I still don't love Buck/Infante/Bonifacio all in the same lineup, but I could certainly live with that ^ ^ ^ Plus, it's 2011, and offenses aren't as good anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I still don't love Buck/Infante/Bonifacio all in the same lineup, but I could certainly live with that ^ ^ ^ Plus, it's 2011, and offenses aren't as good anymore. For all the sh*t that Buck gets, he's basically your average catcher. I mean, if you have a lineup with Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez, Prince Fielder, and Mike Stanton, I don't really think it matters if you have a couple of weak holes because the lineup is going to be rather awesome anyway just with those guys in it. That would certainly be well above average. I am also pretty sure that this would never happen and I'm just talking about it for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 C John Buck - $6,500,000 1B Gaby Sanchez- $ 500,000 2B Omar Infante - $4,000,000 3B Hanley Ramirez - $15,000,000 SS Jose Reyes - $15,000,000 LF Emilio Bonifacio - $2,000,000 CF Yoennis Cespedes $6,000,000 RF Mike Stanton - $420,000 B Brett Hayes - $420,000 B Bryan Petersen - $420,000 B Chris Coghlan - $400,000 B Bench bat for 1,000,000 B Bench bat for 1,000,000 SP Josh Johnson - $13,750,000 SP Gio Gonzalez - $4,200,000 SP Anibal Sanchez - $6,000,000 SP Mark Buehrle- $10,000,000 SP Alex Sanabia- $420,000 RP Edward Mujica - $1,500,000 RP Randy Choate - $1,500,000 RP Ryan Webb - $430,000 RP Mike Dunn - $420,000 RP Steve Cishek - $420,000 RP Jose Ceda- $420,000 RP Burke Badenhop- $1,100,000 92,740,000 Seems reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I am also pretty sure that this would never happen and I'm just talking about it for no reason. That's the beauty of the offseason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIfishfan Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Want to accomplish the goal of putting a winning team on the field while doing so responsibly?.. Sign Reyes to 3-5 years at 15-18 mil with whatever options necessary to get it done. Cespedes, the Cuban CF, is a must, even at 6-8 mil for 5 years. We need to solidify CF and I believe he will be a valuable piece to the team at a lost cost, given his potential production. Pujols would be nice, but not necessary if his demands are too high. Trade pieces: Lomo, Gaby, Nolasco, Coghlan, Dominguez...Should be able to receive two quality young starting pitchers. Shift LoMo to his natural position, 1B, and trade Gaby, Nolasco, Coghlan for a quality SP. If Gaby does not get it done and the SP is worth it, send LoMo in that package, as well. One of Gaby/Lomo needs to go, if not both. I am fine with Gaby holding down 1B..he is dependable defensively and low cost. Lomo projects better for the future, but may bring back better players in trades. Shedding Nolasco's contract is a MUST, as it frees up $$$ for free-agents. I am thinking Gio or Shields joins the staff one way or another this off-season. Sign Buehrle at 11-13 mil for 3-4 years and that locks down our number 2 slot, behind Johnson. Whomever we receive in our Nolasco, LoMo/Gaby trade will be our 3. Anibal at 4. Perhaps Zombrano for dirt cheap at 5, or one of our young guys like Sanaba, Volstad (or trade his a**), Hand. Rough estimates: Reyes 16.5 + Cuban CF 6 + Buehrle 12.5 = 35 mil Getting rid of Nolasco's salary would bring that number down to 25. The other players in the trade would negate the salaries coming in, plus or minus a few mil at the most. Im too lazy to find out exactly what those numbers would be. Lineup: 1. Reyes SS 2. Boni LF 3, Hanley 3B 4. Stanton RF 5. Cespedes CF 6. Morrison 1B 7. Infante 2B 8. Buck C 9. SP Rotation: 1. Johnson 2. Buehrle 3. Gio/Shields/pitcher received in big trade 4. Sanchez 5. Zambrano/Sanabia/Volstad Easily done and instantly contends for the World Series every year. The Marlins would still have room to sign another big player if they want to get closer to 100 mil. I really hope they make this happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm noticing that no one has the Marlins signing a legitimate closer (or any BP help for that matter) I bet we'll trade for one at the deadline if we're in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I'm noticing that no one has the Marlins signing a legitimate closer (or any BP help for that matter) I bet we'll trade for one at the deadline if we're in contention. Not sure what we'll have left to trade if we make a deal for Gio/Shields, but yeah. Just too many holes to justify $$$ on a closer; it's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarinoguido Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Line-Up 1. SS Jose Reyes- 15 Mil 2. Emilio Bonafacio 2.1 Mil 3. 1B Albert Pujols- 25 Mil 4. 3B Hanley Ramirez- 15 Mil 5. RF Mike Stanton- 414 K 6. LF Logan Morrison- 414 K 7. CF Yoenis Cespedes 6 Mil 8. C Brett Hayes 414 K 9. Starting Pitcher Bench IF Donnie Murphy 700 K C John Baker 800 K OF Bryan Peterson 414 K OF Chris Coghlan 490 K IF Gaby Sanchez 431 K SP Josh Johnson 13.75 Mil Matt Harrison 2.9 Mil Brad Hand 414 K Alex Sanabia 414 K Dustin McGowan 700 K Bullpen Chris Hatcher 414 K Mike Dunn 414 K Steve Cishek 414 K Jose Ceda 414 K Ryan Webb 414 K Andy Sonnastine 1.1 Mil Burke Badenhop 1.1 Mil Total Projected Salary: $89,625,000, Just Barely Under 90 Mil What I did: Signed: Cespedes, Pujols, Reyes Gone: Infante, Buck, Choate, Oviedo/Nunez, Nolasco, Sanchez, Volstad, Mujica Traded For: Harrison, McGowan, Sonnastine Overall, I had to give up a lot of the pitching in order to fit in Pujols, Reyes, and Cespedes, plus Buck and Infante. But this line-up is deadly. Stanton hitting 5th, or H2R, whoever u prefer. Reyes the leadoff hitter. Keep in mind we still have Morrison and Bonifacio at the bottom of the order, and Coghlan and Sanchez on the Bench!! I think this team as a whole if we had it, could win us a pennant, easily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I don't think you have a chance with that rotation, even with a strong lineup like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Dustin McGowan still plays baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Line-Up 1. SS Jose Reyes- 15 Mil 2. Emilio Bonafacio 2.1 Mil 3. 1B Albert Pujols- 25 Mil 4. 3B Hanley Ramirez- 15 Mil 5. RF Mike Stanton- 414 K 6. LF Logan Morrison- 414 K 7. CF Yoenis Cespedes 6 Mil 8. C Brett Hayes 414 K 9. Starting Pitcher Bench IF Donnie Murphy 700 K C John Baker 800 K OF Bryan Peterson 414 K OF Chris Coghlan 490 K IF Gaby Sanchez 431 K SP Josh Johnson 13.75 Mil Matt Harrison 2.9 Mil Brad Hand 414 K Alex Sanabia 414 K Dustin McGowan 700 K Bullpen Chris Hatcher 414 K Mike Dunn 414 K Steve Cishek 414 K Jose Ceda 414 K Ryan Webb 414 K Andy Sonnastine 1.1 Mil Burke Badenhop 1.1 Mil Total Projected Salary: $89,625,000, Just Barely Under 90 Mil What I did: Signed: Cespedes, Pujols, Reyes Gone: Infante, Buck, Choate, Oviedo/Nunez, Nolasco, Sanchez, Volstad, Mujica Traded For: Harrison, McGowan, Sonnastine Overall, I had to give up a lot of the pitching in order to fit in Pujols, Reyes, and Cespedes, plus Buck and Infante. But this line-up is deadly. Stanton hitting 5th, or H2R, whoever u prefer. Reyes the leadoff hitter. Keep in mind we still have Morrison and Bonifacio at the bottom of the order, and Coghlan and Sanchez on the Bench!! I think this team as a whole if we had it, could win us a pennant, easily! yea that rotation is horrible lol. and why would we get andy sonanstine? the bench and pitching dont make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 That just shows you how hard it is to fit a $25MM player into a $90MM roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 That just shows you how hard it is to fit a $25MM player into a $90MM roster. Bingo. I hope Reyes is the highest paid FA we get because when Stanton and LoMo hit arbitration in a few years... that's another $15MM at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 That just shows you how hard it is to fit a $25MM player into a $90MM roster. Bingo. I hope Reyes is the highest paid FA we get because when Stanton and LoMo hit arbitration in a few years... that's another $15MM at least. But then Nolasco comes off the books. That won't offset those guys' 6th-year salaries, but this is the kind of thing teams with normal payrolls experience all the time. Some salaries rise, some contracts expire, do it again the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiFan95 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Want to accomplish the goal of putting a winning team on the field while doing so responsibly?.. Sign Reyes to 3-5 years at 15-18 mil with whatever options necessary to get it done. Cespedes, the Cuban CF, is a must, even at 6-8 mil for 5 years. We need to solidify CF and I believe he will be a valuable piece to the team at a lost cost, given his potential production. Pujols would be nice, but not necessary if his demands are too high. Trade pieces: Lomo, Gaby, Nolasco, Coghlan, Dominguez...Should be able to receive two quality young starting pitchers. Shift LoMo to his natural position, 1B, and trade Gaby, Nolasco, Coghlan for a quality SP. If Gaby does not get it done and the SP is worth it, send LoMo in that package, as well. One of Gaby/Lomo needs to go, if not both. I am fine with Gaby holding down 1B..he is dependable defensively and low cost. Lomo projects better for the future, but may bring back better players in trades. Shedding Nolasco's contract is a MUST, as it frees up $$$ for free-agents. I am thinking Gio or Shields joins the staff one way or another this off-season. Sign Buehrle at 11-13 mil for 3-4 years and that locks down our number 2 slot, behind Johnson. Whomever we receive in our Nolasco, LoMo/Gaby trade will be our 3. Anibal at 4. Perhaps Zombrano for dirt cheap at 5, or one of our young guys like Sanaba, Volstad (or trade his a**), Hand. Rough estimates: Reyes 16.5 + Cuban CF 6 + Buehrle 12.5 = 35 mil Getting rid of Nolasco's salary would bring that number down to 25. The other players in the trade would negate the salaries coming in, plus or minus a few mil at the most. Im too lazy to find out exactly what those numbers would be. Lineup: 1. Reyes SS 2. Boni LF 3, Hanley 3B 4. Stanton RF 5. Cespedes CF 6. Morrison 1B 7. Infante 2B 8. Buck C 9. SP Rotation: 1. Johnson 2. Buehrle 3. Gio/Shields/pitcher received in big trade 4. Sanchez 5. Zambrano/Sanabia/Volstad Easily done and instantly contends for the World Series every year. The Marlins would still have room to sign another big player if they want to get closer to 100 mil. I really hope they make this happen. This please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimopain Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 So the current team looks like... Lineup 1. SS - Jose Reyes - $10MM 2. CF - Emilio Bonifacio - $2.1MM 3. 3B - Hanley Ramirez - $15MM 4. RF - Mike Stanton - $414,000 6. LF - Logan Morrison - $414,000 7. 1B - Gaby Sanchez - $414,000 7. C - John Buck - $6MM 8. 2B - Omar Infante - $4MM Bench 1. Bryan Petersen (OF) - $414,000 2. Chris Coghlan (INF/OF) - $490,000 3. Brett Hayes © - $414,000 4. Greg Dobbs (INF) - $700,000 5. Donnie Murphy (INF) - $500,000 Starters 1. Josh Johnson - $13.75MM 2. Mark Buehrle - $14MM 3. Anibal Sanchez - $6MM 4. Ricky Nolasco - $9MM 5. Alex Sanabia - $414,000 Bullpen 1. Clay Hensley - $1.8MM 2. Edward Mujica - $1.6MM 3. Randy Choate - $1.5MM 4. Steve Cishek - $414,000 5. Mike Dunn - $414,000 6. Ryan Webb - $414,000 7. Heath Bell - $9MM Total Payroll = $89.15 MM We definitely still have room for Fielder and/or Wilson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeyethesailor Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 So the current team looks like... Lineup 1. SS - Jose Reyes - $10MM 2. CF - Emilio Bonifacio - $2.1MM 3. 3B - Hanley Ramirez - $15MM 4. RF - Mike Stanton - $414,000 6. LF - Logan Morrison - $414,000 7. 1B - Gaby Sanchez - $414,000 7. C - John Buck - $6MM 8. 2B - Omar Infante - $4MM Bench 1. Bryan Petersen (OF) - $414,000 2. Chris Coghlan (INF/OF) - $490,000 3. Brett Hayes © - $414,000 4. Greg Dobbs (INF) - $700,000 5. Donnie Murphy (INF) - $500,000 Starters 1. Josh Johnson - $13.75MM 2. Mark Buehrle - $14MM 3. Anibal Sanchez - $6MM 4. Ricky Nolasco - $9MM 5. Alex Sanabia - $414,000 Bullpen 1. Clay Hensley - $1.8MM 2. Edward Mujica - $1.6MM 3. Randy Choate - $1.5MM 4. Steve Cishek - $414,000 5. Mike Dunn - $414,000 6. Ryan Webb - $414,000 7. Heath Bell - $9MM Total Payroll = $89.15 MM We definitely still have room for Fielder and/or Wilson! #5 Volstad 2.6M unless he's traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Beinfest Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Or not tendered an offer? Imagine what we can do if we can convince somebody to eat Ricky Nolasco's $9 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeyethesailor Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Or not tendered an offer? Imagine what we can do if we can convince somebody to eat Ricky Nolasco's $9 million. There is no way they do not tender Volstad and let him walk. If he pitches like he did his last 10 starts or so he will be a great asset. Nolasco may be traded if they want to save on the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystikol87 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 A rough WAR projection. Lineup: 26.5 WAR 1. SS - Jose Reyes - 5 2. CF - Emilio Bonifacio - 2 3. 3B - Hanley Ramirez - 5 4. RF - Mike Stanton - 5 6. LF - Logan Morrison - 2 7. 1B - Gaby Sanchez - 3 7. C - John Buck - 2 8. 2B - Omar Infante - 2.5 Bench: 2 WAR 1. Bryan Petersen (OF) - 1 2. Chris Coghlan (INF/OF) - 0 3. Brett Hayes © - .5 4. Greg Dobbs (INF) - .5 5. Donnie Murphy (INF) - 0 Starters: 14.5 WAR 1. Josh Johnson - 6 2. Mark Buehrle - 3.5 3. Anibal Sanchez - 3.5 4. Ricky Nolasco - 2.5 5. Volstad/Sanabia/ + whoever fills in when people get injured - (-1) Bullpen: 3 WAR 1. Clay Hensley - 0 2. Edward Mujica - 1 3. Randy Choate - 0 4. Steve Cishek - .5 5. Mike Dunn - 0 6. Ryan Webb - 0 7. Heath Bell - 1.5 Total WAR: 46 WAR. While estimates of baseline WAR vary, most are in the mid to upper 40s, as far as I know. Adding 48 to that would put this team into the high-80s to mid-90s in wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Jose Reyes is only making 10MM this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimopain Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yep. Posted in another thread. 10MM this year and next and then it increases to eventually 22MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridafly Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yep. Posted in another thread. 10MM this year and next and then it increases to eventually 22MM. I really don't like that, actually. I doubt we'll be able to keep both LoMo and Stanton into their late arbitration years then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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