Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The only comparable player to Martinez is David Ortiz and Ortiz hasn't had a contract longer than two years. You could also make a case that Ortiz keeps getting his contracts because he is, arguably, the face of that (Red Sox) franchise. The Red Sox have actually been reluctant to give him the money and have been going year-to-year with him. A 36-year-old DH isn't getting 3/45. I think he will get 3 years from an AL team. If he doesn't he will still get $30+ Mill for 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Victor Martinez starting 140 games at 1B sounds like a horrible idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Less horrible than a combination of Mark Canha, Kyle Jensen, and Justin Bour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Victor Martinez starting 140 games at 1B sounds like a horrible idea Thank god I'm not alone. And Lou is smart and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You are still alone because of the alternative you are pushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Victor Martinez is so good offensively that it would make up for how bad he'd be at 1B. So, in other words, a lot better than Garrett Jones and every other shitty 1B we've had since Derrek Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You are still alone because of the alternative you are pushing. I'm not pushing anything. I would be fine with Jones and Baker again. I'd be fine with Bour and Jensen/Canha. I think both of those platoons are acceptable especially considering their cost. I don't see what suggests any of Bour/Jensen/Canha would fail as suggested by you and others, they have all pretty much hit at every level. I'd love Jones/McGehee if they were able to acquire a Sandoval. This franchise hasn't really had a great 1B since Derrek Lee, and even then people complained. I've learned to accept less than thrilling first basemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Less horrible than a combination of Mark Canha, Kyle Jensen, and Justin Bour. Well that is basically what is going to happen when Victor Martinez is signed, because he's going to be hurt by May. He's not holding up at 1B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You have no way of knowing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You have no way of knowing that. Is it worth $30 Mill to find out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 For what it's worth, I'd be ok with a strict Jones/Baker platoon, as well. A big reason why Jones has sucked is because they've given him too many ab's against lefties. Suggesting that Martinez isn't a clear upgrade is absurd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 When your entire infield is either below or well below average offensively(possibly...we dont know what McGehee will do next year or even if he will be retained) you have to take a chance somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 For what it's worth, I'd be ok with a strict Jones/Baker platoon, as well. A big reason why Jones has sucked is because they've given him too many ab's against lefties. Suggesting that Martinez isn't a clear upgrade is absurd though. Nobody would argue that a healthy V-Mart would be a huge upgrade. The debate is whether the healthy part is accurate and worth the gamble. Our payroll isn't flexible enough for a gamble like that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You could say the same thing about any free agent you'd be interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You could say the same thing about any free agent you'd be interested in. Now you're just arguing to argue. Just the fact that he's 35 and aging logically should tell you he is more of a risk than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not really. The fact that he has primarily been a DH for the past few seasons actually takes a few miles off of his body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 You guys are also assuming he wants to play the field. He may have zero interest in playing first base... I can't believe we're still discussing Victor Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Because the Marlins need offensive upgrades at C, 1B, 2B, and SS and he would be an offensive upgrade at 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It's not even Sept and we are in a playoff race. Why the fuck are we talking about free agency? Dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think we just need the upgrade at first, honestly. We don't need a guy that can hit .280 with 15 homers at each position besides first. 5 good bats and 3 other guys that can contribute here and there should be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It's not even Sept and we are in a playoff race. Why the fuck are we talking about free agency? Dumb. Calm down, there, Johnny, calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I think we just need the upgrade at first, honestly. We don't need a guy that can hit .280 with 15 homers at each position besides first. 5 good bats and 3 other guys that can contribute here and there should be enough. I would agre with that, but the guys at C, 2B, and SS really dont contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 It's not even Sept and we are in a playoff race. Why the fuck are we talking about free agency? Dumb. Uh, because this thread is about next year's payroll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Now you're just arguing to argue. Just the fact that he's 35 and aging logically should tell you he is more of a risk than most. I'm not. The rumor is that they'd be interested in spending the money on pitching. Signing pitchers long-term when they're in their 30's has proven to be the riskiest investment in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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