marlinsmaniac Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 So let me recap the "logic" behind some of these inane rants. Going into last off season everyone wanted Stanton to be signed long term. done. then it was yelich. done then it was picking up some pieces via FA to help fill the gaps. Loria spent money on what was a fairly thin crop of players to the point where a lot of folks LIKED what we did this off season. This includes actual baseball analysts who typically only mock the Marlins. Many of you on here liked how the team looked going into the season. Many also wanted ozuna locked up but now that he sucks. Where are those cries now? for whatever reason the moves didn't pan out as planned. Morse magically lost the ability to hit a ball when he has been historically very solid when used as only a 1b. Cishek shit the bed constantly and was likely almost suspended from using those salty tears as a foreign substance. I can go on but we all know how the season panned out. now we get rid of Cishek who everyone wanted crucified and sent to the minors and generally mocked everything DJ brought him in and that's still wrong lol. Loria spent last off season in a big way too. Let's see if they can do it again this offseason with the money saved off guys like cishek,latos, morse, etc.It's highly unlikely we'll have this much shirt luck two seasons in a row (injuries and guys just not meeting status quo for their careers). I would like to see them invest more in scouting and development too but they did pretty much what every Marlins fan had been clamoring for last offseason and he's still the devil because the team just didn't play well. All of that said I can't believe I'm defending him but he did show strides last offseason. I'm going to see if he does it again before ripping on him. Well Said. Loria has been a piece of crap for most of the years he's been here, but anything going on this season can't be put on him. The main issues have been injury to Jose and Hendo bringing down our staff, since we have gotten A LOT more out of Haren than we thought, and less from Latos for what I think is a virtual wash. On the offensive side, our entire outfield forgot who they were early on (Ozuna hit fairly well but with absolutely no power). The only thing I would say was an organizational mistake was bringing in Mike Morse. The fact that we even needed a first baseman in the first place is also their fault! I might just be a sour grape over it, but by the time Jose Abreu was available the likes of Chapman, Cespedes, and Puig had shown that Cuban talent translates well. Why the hell didn't we sign Abreu? He's a power hitting first baseman (which we didn't have), and he's CUBAN. He kills two birds with one stone by producing at a position of need and bringing in the ever-skeptical older Cuban fan base. I'm not crazy, am I? Wouldn't that have made total sense? For god's sake, both Abreu and Morse are getting paid the same amount of money!!! Oy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 So let me recap the "logic" behind some of these inane rants. Going into last off season everyone wanted Stanton to be signed long term. done. then it was yelich. done then it was picking up some pieces via FA to help fill the gaps. Loria spent money on what was a fairly thin crop of players to the point where a lot of folks LIKED what we did this off season. This includes actual baseball analysts who typically only mock the Marlins. Many of you on here liked how the team looked going into the season. Many also wanted ozuna locked up but now that he sucks. Where are those cries now? for whatever reason the moves didn't pan out as planned. Morse magically lost the ability to hit a ball when he has been historically very solid when used as only a 1b. Cishek shit the bed constantly and was likely almost suspended from using those salty tears as a foreign substance. I can go on but we all know how the season panned out. now we get rid of Cishek who everyone wanted crucified and sent to the minors and generally mocked everything DJ brought him in and that's still wrong lol. Loria spent last off season in a big way too. Let's see if they can do it again this offseason with the money saved off guys like cishek,latos, morse, etc.It's highly unlikely we'll have this much shirt luck two seasons in a row (injuries and guys just not meeting status quo for their careers). I would like to see them invest more in scouting and development too but they did pretty much what every Marlins fan had been clamoring for last offseason and he's still the devil because the team just didn't play well. All of that said I can't believe I'm defending him but he did show strides last offseason. I'm going to see if he does it again before ripping on him. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Well Said. Loria has been a piece of crap for most of the years he's been here, but anything going on this season can't be put on him. The main issues have been injury to Jose and Hendo bringing down our staff, since we have gotten A LOT more out of Haren than we thought, and less from Latos for what I think is a virtual wash. On the offensive side, our entire outfield forgot who they were early on (Ozuna hit fairly well but with absolutely no power). The only thing I would say was an organizational mistake was bringing in Mike Morse. The fact that we even needed a first baseman in the first place is also their fault! I might just be a sour grape over it, but by the time Jose Abreu was available the likes of Chapman, Cespedes, and Puig had shown that Cuban talent translates well. Why the hell didn't we sign Abreu? He's a power hitting first baseman (which we didn't have), and he's CUBAN. He kills two birds with one stone by producing at a position of need and bringing in the ever-skeptical older Cuban fan base. I'm not crazy, am I? Wouldn't that have made total sense? For god's sake, both Abreu and Morse are getting paid the same amount of money!!! Oy... Ditto to my previous reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsmaniac Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ditto to my previous reply. Thanks Skip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlins_09 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Both are being traded I really doubt it. Latos should stay. He's a very solid 3 and we have zero minor league depth to plug and play in this rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I really doubt it. Latos should stay. He's a very solid 3 and we have zero minor league depth to plug and play in this rotation. He's a FA after the year and they have no plans to re-sign him so why would they not trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 He's a FA after the year and they have no plans to re-sign him so why would they not trade him? Plus, who gives a fuck about this year and what they do in terms of rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Miami is open to dealing veteran Dan Haren, but has rebuffed at least one club that asked for money to be sent along with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterthemadness Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 How about we sign Haren lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 How about we sign Haren lol? He doesn't want to pitch on East coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Miami is open to dealing veteran Dan Haren, but has rebuffed at least one club that asked for money to be sent along with him Waiting on fair offer. If that team offered a fair prospect, they would've sent some cash with him but the team offered shit AND wanted us to pay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daddy Dix Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 also, i'd like to say that in my Hutton-esque rant which was typed via my sausage fingers on a cell phone under a desk while acting like I was working at my desk I apparently created the term "shirt luck" thanks to autocorrect. i expect royalties when it catches on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 He doesn't want to pitch on East coast He's also retiring after this year regardless (I actually have a legit source on this!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 He's also retiring after this year regardless (I actually have a legit source on this!!!) Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Waiting on fair offer. If that team offered a fair prospect, they would've sent some cash with him but the team offered shit AND wanted us to pay for him. I mean it's Dan Haren. Take what you can get. Check out his away splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterthemadness Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 He doesn't want to pitch on East coast That's why I added the ''lol''. Silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 That's why I added the ''lol''. Silly. Put a winky face next time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Really? yeah. i'm friends w a guy at a popular WAR loving baseball blog who knows him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 yeah. i'm friends w a guy at a popular WAR loving baseball blog who knows him Cool thanks for the scoop, I thought he'd stick around for a nice pay day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Cool thanks for the scoop, I thought he'd stick around for a nice pay day. lol I mean you never know I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 He's also retiring after this year regardless (I actually have a legit source on this!!!) Been the word on the street since last winter right? I hope some team throws a big offer at him, just to see what he might do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago Sources: #Marlins drawing interest in Dietrich from teams that view him as regular 2B or 3B. MIA open to moving him for right return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish14 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Why on earth do we never play him. It is ridiculous he isn't playing everyday in favor of mcgehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongInTheAir Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago Sources: #Marlins drawing interest in Dietrich from teams that view him as regular 2B or 3B. MIA open to moving him for right return. You'd think we might view him as a regular 2B or 3B, but no: Casey McGehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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