Jokersgoon Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 These are the incoming FA 1st basemen citing mlbtraderumors.com: Jeff Baker (35) Chris Davis (30) Edwin Encarnacion (33) – $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout Garrett Jones (35) Justin Morneau (35) – $9MM mutual option with a $750K buyout Mike Napoli (34) Steve Pearce (33) Sean Rodriguez (31) yeah, not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 These are the incoming FA 1st basemen citing mlbtraderumors.com: Jeff Baker (35) Chris Davis (30) Edwin Encarnacion (33) – $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout Garrett Jones (35) Justin Morneau (35) – $9MM mutual option with a $750K buyout Mike Napoli (34) Steve Pearce (33) Sean Rodriguez (31) yeah, not pretty. Steve Pearce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Id gamble on morneau if he opts-out. blind hope, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 These are the incoming FA 1st basemen citing mlbtraderumors.com: Jeff Baker (35) Chris Davis (30) Edwin Encarnacion (33) – $10MM club option with a $2MM buyout Garrett Jones (35) Justin Morneau (35) – $9MM mutual option with a $750K buyout Mike Napoli (34) Steve Pearce (33) Sean Rodriguez (31) yeah, not pretty. Baker.... next Davis, ok he fits what was wanted by Kilo but will be overpaid probably and result in a bad contract Edwin's option will obviously be picked up Jones.... ha Morneau... he's not the power threat Kilo wanted Napoli... he's not the power threat Kilo wanted Pearce... he's not the power threat Kilo wanted Rod.... he's not the power threat Kilo wanted So yeah like I said, its nice to say what the team could use but if that guy doesn't actually exist how is it the Marlins' fault if they don't sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Scott Kazmir, Jeff Samardzija that would be awesome i figure we'll get outbid on everyone i want though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Steve Pearce We playing Jeopardy? Who is not a worthwhile signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Id gamble on morneau if he opts-out. blind hope, maybe? That's extremely blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's extremely blind. someone is in a mean girls mood today, asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Scott Kazmir, Jeff Samardzija that would be awesome i figure we'll get outbid on everyone i want though. I'll pass on Samardzija, he's just smoke and mirror show, it'll be another bad contract ala Bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersgoon Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 @JoeFrisaro 24s24 seconds ago Regardless of if DJ goes back to front office or remains manager in '16, I expect #Marlins to pay more attention to analytics next yr Dipoto? Dipoto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 The fact Frisaro even makes it seem possible that DJ remains manager negates every word he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 @JoeFrisaro 24s24 seconds ago Regardless of if DJ goes back to front office or remains manager in '16, I expect #Marlins to pay more attention to analytics next yr Dipoto? Dipoto! LOL AT FRISARO OR THIS FO CARING ABOUT ANALYTICS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 The FO understands analytics about as well as I do aka not at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I also love that Frisaro has being using defensive metrics to support adeiny as a good SS when in previous years he said they were BS (ie picking and choosing to defend his argument) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollythewog Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 The FO understands analytics about as well as I do aka not at all that's pretty obvious considering they let casey mcgehee play 1b regularly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Kazmir is going to stay home and sign a deal with Houston Samardzija may resign with the white sox. They both like each other cueto is going where he can get the highest combo of money and winning culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's the difficulty here, even if the Marlins really wanted players like Kazmir, even if they're willing to increase payroll, there's twenty nine other teams out there. It's very hard to get all of your targeted players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's the difficulty here, even if the Marlins really wanted players like Kazmir, even if they're willing to increase payroll, there's twenty nine other teams out there. It's very hard to get all of your targeted players. What? No. If a player doesn't sign with Miami, it means they didn't offer enough cause they are cheap bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Right. Do you guys think players turn down our money just because they'd rather play closer to home for less money? No way. It's the COL, Culture of Losing guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Case in point, it is an absolute FACT that Miami offered Shields the most money but he chose SD due to its location. If you blame the FO for that failure, I guess you wanted the Marlins to relocate in order to accommodate Shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 If we hadnt gotten the new ballpark we could have just relocated closer to San Diego and we could have gotten Shields. What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Samardzija's value will never be lower than this season. For us to compete, this team needs to get value in our free agent signings. Samardzija is the perfect kind of signing for a team like us this offseason. Samardzija has six starts where he's given up 5 ER or more, 4 starts of allowing 7 ER or more, with two of them being in his last two starts. Yes, that absolutely sucks and shows he's having a Ricky Nolasco season. But on the other hand, 19 of his 23 starts have been 6 innings or more, 16!!!! starts of 7 innings or more. The biggest thing we lack on the current team is guys who can go deep into games regularly. Samardzija can do that without any issue. He could very well suck if we sign him, but he's the kind of guy we need to take chances on. He'd come at a reasonable cost after a season like this. A move to the National League will probably do wonders for him, and he has the potential to be that #2 we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I agree with dim, I don't know if Samardzija is the answer but I'd welcome him because he's an upgrade for us now. Especially with our health concerns heading into next year. Then again, after Saltalamacchia, Hechavarria, and now Barraclough, I'm not so sure my phone's auto correct can deal with Samardzija. Throw in Dombrowski and its all down hill from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dim Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Everyone hates when the Marlins go and sell low and buy high, yet the biggest name I hear people wanting is Kazmir. Yeah, Kazmir's been absolutely great this year. But that great number means he'll make top top top dollar in free agency. This season has been an absolute breakout from what he's been doing recently. He hasn't thrown for 200 innings since 2007. He'll probably make near $100 million this offseason while Samardzija is likely looking at a one year "prove it" deal with a national league team in a pitcher friendly park. Kazmir's going to go to one of the top teams with the most money in the baseball world. I respect and understand that. We can't and shouldn't be trying to attain these players. Samardzija is similar to the Latos deal we did this season. Yes, the Latos deal didn't work out, but I'd do that trade over again 100 times because there was a significant chance of him becoming a #2 starter caliber player again. I don't believe Samardzija has the same injury concerns that Latos has, so this move would be more likely to pay off, AND we wouldn't be giving up long term flexibility or prospects to get him. It makes all the sense in the world to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Don't expect the Marlins to go after a Cueto or Price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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