TaiwanMarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 In the payroll of 80M,we are targeting for the third place in the division,not for the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 In the payroll of 80M,we are targeting for the third place in the division,not for the first place. I happen to think payroll doesnt necessarily matter, but just talent. We dont have enough. I do think this. The marlins can be 87-89 wins with some sort of consistent offense and no injuries. Every starter hitting .275+ and starting 140 plus games could be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 If every starter plays 140+ games, they have a shot to make the playoffs. This team probably won't make the playoffs, but the talent of the starters won't be the reason why. The team on the field is well above average in terms of talent. It's just that when a couple get injured, there will be limited to no depth to replace them. Different year, same story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I happen to think payroll doesnt necessarily matter, but just talent. We dont have enough. I do think this. The marlins can be 87-89 wins with some sort of consistent offense and no injuries. Every starter hitting .275+ and starting 140 plus games could be huge. Because we have no growing enough talents to help us to compete right now,so spending on the FA seems to be the only way to be succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 If every starter plays 140+ games, they have a shot to make the playoffs. This team probably won't make the playoffs, but the talent of the starters won't be the reason why. The team on the field is well above average in terms of talent. It's just that when a couple get injured, there will be limited to no depth to replace them. Different year, same story. Excellent point. And yup that's why you need a bench. And that's why you need quality pitching just in case the offense has an off night. It's a bad circle that could have been fixed had we gotten a 2,3, and 4 starter. Cosart would have been my choice for the fifth spot. Koehler to bullpen where he can legit shut it down the first time through the order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 If every starter plays 140+ games, they have a shot to make the playoffs. This team probably won't make the playoffs, but the talent of the starters won't be the reason why. The team on the field is well above average in terms of talent. It's just that when a couple get injured, there will be limited to no depth to replace them. Different year, same story. This is so true. Which is why spending this year to complement the existing talent should have been a gamble to take. I mean, just for one example, imagine how different this team would look today if we had splurged on, say, Jordan Zimmermann to put between Jose and Chen. Huge difference right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Will this guy Benedict have anything to do with the pitching this spring? Get Koehler hand and cosart going? Scratch that. I have no confidence in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 At this point our best bet with Benedict might be if he just went ahead and became our fifth starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I agree 100%. We should just go out and trade w/ Cleveland for Carrasco no matter what it takes. Im really big on having good starting pitchers. Our offense in my book can be great this year. Everything goes hand in hand. Pitchers pitch good to great the offense comes along with confidence. We need pitching. Get it done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 At this point our best bet with Benedict might be if he just went ahead and became our fifth starter. Or he modified our many 5th starters to 3rd starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Miami Marlins are quietly building a strong team for 2016 -- and they might not be finished. According to a report from Nick Cafardo at the Boston Globe, they could be interested in adding veteran starter Kyle Lohse: "Lohse had a horrible season in Milwaukee (5-13, 5.85), but teams looking for a veteran to add to the back of their rotation will consider him in hopes of a bounce-back season. The Marlins, for one, are exploring that possibility." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I agree 100%. We should just go out and trade w/ Cleveland for Carrasco no matter what it takes. Im really big on having good starting pitchers. Our offense in my book can be great this year. Everything goes hand in hand. Pitchers pitch good to great the offense comes along with confidence. We need pitching. Get it done! Cant hate on this comment. Well except "hand in hand". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I agree 100%. We should just go out and trade w/ Cleveland for Carrasco no matter what it takes. Im really big on having good starting pitchers. Our offense in my book can be great this year. Everything goes hand in hand. Pitchers pitch good to great the offense comes along with confidence. We need pitching. Get it done! Trade Ozuna + other players to then replace him with Fowler? I think we have torched this idea enough with trying to shop Ozuna, but selling this guy off right now just isn't the answer. Truth of the matter is the other teams want a bargain price on Ozuna. Probably only offering a 4th type of starter on him. Which would probably be replacement level, for that we can keep Cosart and Koehler in the rotation. Maybe the Marlins were right to not go after Fister even after his MRI was concerning. Their plan right now is probably to do the wait and see approach and see if they can snatch up Lohse or see what Lincencum has left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I agree with @squall though, this was the type of year to bump payroll up and make those signings, sadly Loria won't justify an increase until next year with the hype of the ASG. Next years class doesn't even look that good compared to this years. Better off waiting until 2018. Depth is what kills us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I agree with @squall though, this was the type of year to bump payroll up and make those signings, sadly Loria won't justify an increase until next year with the hype of the ASG. Next years class doesn't even look that good compared to this years. Better off waiting until 2018. Depth is what kills us. It's the owner that kills us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MittRomney Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'd be surprised if Ozuna was still on the team opening day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'd be surprised if Ozuna was still on the team opening day Then hold onto your britches because I doubt he's going anywhere at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovertical Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I've looked hard to find the britches section at numerous clothing stores with scant success. Please tell me, where do you buy these britches and why are they always worn so loosely that it prompts one to need to hold onto them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 My britches aren't actually loose, it's just that with people like Admin around here it's best to always be sure your britches are tightly on. One can never be too safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiNative0722 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Miami Marlins are quietly building a strong team for 2016 -- and they might not be finished. According to a report from Nick Cafardo at the Boston Globe, they could be interested in adding veteran starter Kyle Lohse: "Lohse had a horrible season in Milwaukee (5-13, 5.85), but teams looking for a veteran to add to the back of their rotation will consider him in hopes of a bounce-back season. The Marlins, for one, are exploring that possibility." Ew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Kyle Lohse??? Are u fucking kidding me?? Whose running this team?? Beavis and Butthead?? Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vince0926 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This team is run incredibly poorly and if I weren't still a marlins fan I'd actively root against them. I don't like the Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Brad Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 why hate Lohse so much?last season was just his ONLY ONE bad season in the past five seasons,with no injury why wouldn't be a good LOW RISK with HIGH REWARD candidate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 why hate Lohse so much?last season was just his ONLY ONE bad season in the past five seasons,with no injury why wouldn't be a good LOW RISK with HIGH REWARD candidate? He's fine on a minor league/minimum deal, but they need a # 2/3 starter and that isn't Lohse. He isn't high ceiling or anything different than Phelps or Edwin as the 5th SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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