LordMagnus Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 What a disaster. This guy just plain sucks ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlinsForever Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 What ever it is, its too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Hart Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Fuck Chen. If he doesn't use the opt-out cluase after 2017 season, we will be busted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I would like to think he's better than this. Peripherals seem to think he is. But watching him pitch, it looks like batting practice. It's basically Nicolinoish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 DFA his ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamibaseball Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Jan 14, 2016 This week's announcement that Wei-Yin Chen has agreed to terms with the Marlins at $16 million per year has been met with criticism, but Eno Sarris sees it as a good signing and explains why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Assuming he exercises his option after next season (no reason why he wouldn't), the Marlins owe him a guaranteed $80 million. He will be earning $15.5 million next season. Ouch. This is when the Marlins failure to have a decent farm system really hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada-marlin24 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Chen should definitely be better than this. His fastball is a bit down this year but he just hasn't been able to put guys away the way he is capable of. He is still a fly ball pitcher but I do think he is far better than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 At least he didn't give HR today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_gmac Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 At least he didn't give HR today. excellent point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBullet Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Bad season and all I don't think Chen "sucks". He's had enough of a solid career thus far to tell me he is better than this. I still expect a win when he's on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Bad season and all I don't think Chen "sucks". He's had enough of a solid career thus far to tell me he is better than this. I still expect a win when he's on the mound. And it's still early,he still has plenty of time to prove his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I was actually just looking and his advanced metrics suck too so take back what I said about his peripherals looking fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaiwanMarlins Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 By the way,how much do the ChiSox paid the "unbelievable suck" Shields ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nny Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I was actually just looking and his advanced metrics suck too so take back what I said about his peripherals looking fine. It's all in the HR. He's posting among his best K/BB of his career. And considering his HR rates were considerably lower in a hitters ball park in the AL east, I think they'll go down here. He's been really bad so far, but two months is a bit early to say a multi year contract is a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 By the way,how much do the ChiSox paid the "unbelievable suck" Shields ? I don't feel like looking into how much they're paying him, but his last four starts, WOW. 11.1 innings [less than 3 innings a start on average], 24.62 ERA, .485 average against ... OPS of 1.441 White Sox got him at the worst possible time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I was actually just looking and his advanced metrics suck too so take back what I said about his peripherals looking fine. How far off are they from his career numbers ? i agree with most on here that unless he's injured or something there's no reason why he can't still improve this year. He isn't particularly old and doesn't have an injury history that would be a cause for alarm. Obviously there's something he's doing wrong whether it's his mechanics or whatever. Also he hasn't been as bad as nicolino all year. But his last few starts have been terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYmarlins Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 His inability to finish off hitters was a big issue yesterday. In that 6 run inning last night for the Rockies he had a couple of 0-2 counts where he either hit the batter or walked the guy. Even the hit he gave up to Hundley he was ahead in the count. The HR ball has also hit him badly although at least they are just solo home runs. If he opts in after next season with pitching the way he is then we are screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erick Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Regarding the AL East/ballpark thing, I wouldn't be surprised if the HR totals are up because his velocity is down. It doesn't seem like just an issue of bad luck. His velocity is down a full mph which usually has a correlation with a worse ERA. Especially with his style of pitching, he's around the zone with his fastball a lot. Not overly surprising that he's allowing more HR's. If you look at his hit hard %, he's getting hit much harder this year than any other year of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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