Posted July 8, 20168 yr Why send scouts when the next day's newspaper will have a box score with their ERAs and Win/Loss records? (Also, no way we have enough to pick up either guy, right? Unless we take Billy Butler's albatross contract?)
July 8, 20168 yr Why send scouts when the next day's newspaper will have a box score with their ERAs and Win/Loss records? This is great.
July 8, 20168 yr Why send scouts when the next day's newspaper will have a box score with their ERAs and Win/Loss records? (Also, no way we have enough to pick up either guy, right? Unless we take Billy Butler's albatross contract?) We probably have enough to acquire Rich Hill. He's old and doesn't have much of a track record with the exception of this last year.
July 8, 20168 yr Rich Hill might be something we can get, but my guess is he ends up in Boston who wants him back and has the prospects to do so. Sonny Gray is going to command a kings' ransom.
July 8, 20168 yr Josh Naylor may not be long for this organization Would the A's really take a stab at Naylor??
July 8, 20168 yr I don't want Rich Hill because I'll get him and Mike Hill mixed up. Why no one liked this?
July 8, 20168 yr Why send scouts when the next day's newspaper will have a box score with their ERAs and Win/Loss records? (Also, no way we have enough to pick up either guy, right? Unless we take Billy Butler's albatross contract?) Sounds about right.
July 8, 20168 yr Why does Billy Butler have guaranteed money (10 mil?!) next year?? Oakland of all teams.. weird
July 8, 20168 yr Would the A's really take a stab at Naylor?? would anyone here be cut-up about losing him?
July 8, 20168 yr Rich Hill is a gettable half-year rental. We have enough pieces to get him. A guy like him or Bud Norris should have been our priority over Rodney, and if we wanted someone beyond this year we should have sweetened the deal with Paddack and added Pomeranz instead. I'd be very happy to add Hill at this point. Sent from my iPhone using MarlinsBaseball.com mobile app
July 8, 20168 yr I feel like the A's are loving the idea of Dee Gordon. Just hope if a deal is done, it's for sonny gray not Hill
July 8, 20168 yr I feel like the A's are loving the idea of Dee Gordon. Just hope if a deal is done, it's for sonny gray not Hill Gray is having a really bad year, so A's would be selling low on him most likely. Maybe see if he could be had for less.
July 8, 20168 yr Gray is having a really bad year, so A's would be selling low on him most likely. Maybe see if he could be had for less. His value has lowered because of his play this year, but almost evens out when you compare him to the market as well as the contract. I truly see us having to trade Dee to get him. And that's the only guy I would consider making that kind of deal for
July 8, 20168 yr Gray is having a really bad year, so A's would be selling low on him most likely. Maybe see if he could be had for less. Yeah but it's a small sample size, especially considering how awesome he was in 2014 and 2015. Plus, as marlins_09 just said, he is making nothing right now and he is only 26 years old. The Athletics can still get a decent haul for him.
July 8, 20168 yr Yeah but it's a small sample size, especially considering how awesome he was in 2014 and 2015. Plus, as marlins_09 just said, he is making nothing right now and he is only 26 years old. The Athletics can still get a decent haul for him. I can't really agree with it being a "small sample size" anymore, being that the all-star break is in three days. It's 90 2/3 innings of crap. I will agree, yes, the age and lack of an expensive contract makes him more valuable, but he's definitely in a "buy low" situation right now. Nobody wants to pay a premium for a guy with an ERA over 5 and a FIP of 4.50.
July 8, 20168 yr I can't really agree with it being a "small sample size" anymore, being that the all-star break is in three days. It's 90 2/3 innings of crap. I will agree, yes, the age and lack of an expensive contract makes him more valuable, but he's definitely in a "buy low" situation right now. Nobody wants to pay a premium for a guy with an ERA over 5 and a FIP of 4.50. Gray > Norris and we couldn't even of matched what the doyers gave up for Norris
July 8, 20168 yr I can't really agree with it being a "small sample size" anymore, being that the all-star break is in three days. It's 90 2/3 innings of crap. I will agree, yes, the age and lack of an expensive contract makes him more valuable, but he's definitely in a "buy low" situation right now. Nobody wants to pay a premium for a guy with an ERA over 5 and a FIP of 4.50. If that's not a small sample size, then 2014+2015 are huge sample sizes. Those 2 years is success didn't happen on accident. In these situations you have to determine which is the anomaly, 2014+2015 or this year pre all star break (which he has improved in his last 7 starts to a 4.01 era). He didn't just become a bad pitcher, sometimes guys just have off years. I'll still take Gray over anyone in our rotation for remainder of his contract not named Jose.
July 8, 20168 yr Gray > Norris and we couldn't even of matched what the doyers gave up for Norris Dee has played his last game in a Marlins uniform. He will be traded for a SP and he damn sure was enough to get a bud norris deal in motion. Just glad they didn't.
July 8, 20168 yr Dee has played his last game in a Marlins uniform. He will be traded for a SP and he damn sure was enough to get a bud norris deal in motion. Just glad they didn't. that $50m contract seriously negates Dee's trade value
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